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Army: Fort Hood shooting rampage suspect is alive

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Published: November 5, 2009

FORT HOOD, Texas -- A military mental health doctor facing deployment overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army post on Thursday, setting off on a rampage that killed 12 people and left 31 wounded, Army officials said.


Army Lt. Gen. Robert Cone gives a news conference after a shooting in Fort Hood, Texas on Thursday, Nov. 5, 2009. (AP Photo/Austin American-Statesman, Rodolfo Gonzalez)

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WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama is calling a mass shooting at an Army base in Texas a "horrific outburst of violence."

He says he doesn't yet know all the details but promised the government would get "answers to every single question."

The commander in chief says it's a tragedy to lose a soldier overseas and even more horrifying when they come under fire at an Army base on American soil.

Obama also said his thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and families of the fallen.

The U.S. Army says 12 people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting rampage on the Fort Hood Army base in Texas.

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Authorities said immediately after the shootings that they had killed the suspected shooter, but later in the evening they recanted and said that he was alive and in stable condition at a hospital, watched by a guard.

"His death is not imminent," said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood. He offered little explanation for the mistake, other than to say there was confusion at the hospital.

A law enforcement official identified the shooting suspect as Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

The violence was believed to be the worst mass shooting in history at a U.S. military base.

The shooting began around 1:30 p.m., when shots were fired at the base's Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening, Cone said.

It was unclear what the motive was, though it appeared he was upset about a scheduled deployment. U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said the Army major was about to deploy overseas, though it was unclear if he was headed to Iraq or Afghanistan and when he was scheduled to leave. Hutchison said she was told about the upcoming deployment by generals based at Fort Hood.

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the military has been telling lies for YEARS,,,,,,so whats 5 hours?????
eric, OKLAHOMA ,city - Nov 6, 2009 at 1:01 pm
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Paul,

Are you talking about the crusades? That's pretty funny. It seems to me, if I remember my history, that a majority of the crusades were against Muslims. Just a thought. Wars have been fought for many years between Muslims and Christians.
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:17 am
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Another for ya, Weldon, once again, linked right here in this very paper.

http://newsok.com/article/3414911
paul, yukon - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:09 am
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Weldon, did you denounce McVeighs religion after the OKC bombing?

If not, why not?

Randall, feel free to jump in and take a stab at those questions as well, since you seem to feel we need a "crystal night" to eliminate threats....
paul, yukon - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:43 am
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Coward. Just like McVeigh.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:23 am
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Just for you, Weldon, found right here in the DOK:

http://www.newsok.com/article/3415069

Like I said, all you have to do is WANT to look and see, and there it is...
paul, yukon - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:08 am
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"And where are all the Islamic leaders flocking to the radio and television to condemn this? Not to be found."------------YOU need to look beyond the biased articles of the DOK, because on the national and world level, there's plenty of denouncement of this action.

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Yes, Christianity has had its dark times, but it reformed."----And just what did it take for the "reform" to happen? Time, perhaps? Are you stating that time to reform should not be granted in this instance as well?

Why? Because Americans are dying? Think the the ones slaughtered in the name of Christianity thought the same way?

You are biased and a hypocrite, Weldon.



paul, yukon - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:04 am
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Nidal Malik Hasan, imagine that. Not Joe Smith or Mike Jones. And where are all the Islamic leaders flocking to the radio and television to condemn this? Not to be found.

Yes, Christianity has had its dark times, but it reformed. And if this person had been a "Christian", then you would see plenty of condemnation. But not from Islam...

So Paul there's your difference... Please, I keep giving you this advice, leave Oklahoma if it's so bad, man your bashing and drivel gets old...


Weldon, Edmond - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:45 am
If Christianity called for subjugation of the infidel by the sword, I'd blame Christianity. If the guy yells Allahu Akbar, is a Muslim who praises the shooter of the Little Rock recruiters and thinks more people should strap bombs to themselves, well then I blame Islam.
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:30 am
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Hey, for all y'alls dimwits who want to blame this on his religion, how many of all y'alls would be condemning Christianity if he turned out to be a Christian?

How about if he was Southern Baptist??

Methodist??

I thought so.

paul, yukon - Nov 6, 2009 at 6:17 am
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Whether we admit it or not, Western Civilization is at war with the phony "religion" of Islam."-----------------------------Randall....how is Islam any more "phony" than Christianity? I believe if you compared "body counts" both in the name of Christianity and Islam you'd find strikingly similar numbers.

Stating Islam is "phony" because of killing people is also calling Christianity "phony" for the same reasons....or in your mind, is killing for Christianity ok versus killing for Islam??

Whoever commented on the first couple pages of this article about the "backwoods, mouth breathe, okie" responses is pretty much dead on.

Tell me Randall, do you choose to only look at the killings in the "name of Islam" and ignore all the killings in the "name of Christianity"??

paul, yukon - Nov 6, 2009 at 6:03 am
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My brother in law is the head of security at Ft. Hood. He left Ft. Hood to go to Maryland today before the shooting started. My sister in law also works there. Here's an e mail I got from her around 5:00 PM.
"Hey everyone,Just wanted to let you all know that we are fine if you have been watching the news about Fort Hood. The incident happened two miles down the road that my building is on. Adrian left for Maryland this morning but I'm still at my building since the post is locked down. No one can leave the post or the buildings and no one can come in. Just waiting for them to give us the all clear so we can go home. Ashley is safe at home. Hopefully they will decide to let us go soon."
violet, yukon - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:24 am
Why did the military lie for 5 hours?
Chris, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Hey, so called "Truth Seeker", you only touched the surface of the fact, seemingly wanting to avoid his unbecoming behavior and comments suggesting "muslims should stand up against the agressor" among his other Anti-American statements. Care to try again?
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Here's what we know so far: The shooter was born in Virginia, graduated from Virginia Tech, and is not a Muslim convert but a practicing Muslim all of his life. He was in the ROTC in college, had been active duty military for several years, was at Walter Reed for 6 years before Ft. Hood as a psychiatrist, and was promoted to the rank of Major last year. Reports are now coming out that he had never been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan but was upset that he was going to be deployed soon. He was also upset because he was being harassed by other service members (called names such as "raghead") and recently his car was vandalized and the word "Allah" was keyed onto his car. This is obviously a complicated situation and I'm certain we will learn more in the coming days. I'm not one to automatically assume that just because the shooter was Muslim that he is a terrorist or a radical, and as more information surfaces, it appears to me that the guy just snapped, lost it, etc.
Truth Seeker, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 11:04 pm
One has to wonder, since word has come out from associates(Col. Terry Lee) that were close to him with his work and from the branch that was investigating him 6 months earlier for the disturbing, incendiary and vile comments he made about the US and the military, was there hesitation in action because of the current mindset in the white house?
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Hmm a Muslim shrink shoots and kills our citizens? What concerns me is that the government is going to lie about the whole situation. Hey I am sure there are Muslims in the Army that serve the US with dignity and honor. However, its those guys I trust, its the government I DO not trust. False flag or grooming by Hussien or what? Sorry for what happened but its likely government influenced or actually the international bankster/wall street bunch influenced. Just follow the money and you will find the truth if your a true reporter.
Terry, Norman - Nov 5, 2009 at 10:36 pm
You too, Dewayne. And I hope the same regarding the one shooter vs. terrorist attack scenarios.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 9:03 pm
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Hope that someday we actually know what was going thru his mind, and really want this to be a one person situation and not some organized terrorist activity. If he actually is still alive, should definitely have a better chance of figuring it out. Hopefully by morning, we will also have consistent information on this individual. Actually get to go home, and watch the news, and hopefully get more info. BBJ, have a good night.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:53 pm
They said that the other two were questioned and released. They were not involved. At this point they are saying there was only one person shooting.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:39 pm
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My reply to "Gail, Bethany" on the "Cougar" thread is now up for your perusal and approval.
Jason, Edmond - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Have they said why the other two individuals were detained? Have not really had time to search for that info.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I'm aware I did neither, Dewayne. That's why I asked that you dial back the sarcasm.

Lt. Gen. Cone just announced at the press conference that the shooter is not dead. He is alive, wounded, and in stable condition.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:27 pm
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He posted blogs on a web site saying Muslims should strike against the aggressors and kill them. He also let it be known to fellow officers. He is not a soldier, he is a TRAITOR.
Cletus, Mayberry - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:25 pm
BBJ, you did neither. Apparently they are now reporting the shooter is still alive. Am I getting bad info. I am at work, and not able to see anything on the tube.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Well, he isn't a good terrorist, yet, as new information says he is still alive! Hopefully, soon, he'll become a good terrorist!
Ray, St. Robert - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:22 pm
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"he was a great American" was an opinion given by his cousin in an interview. I don't think "a great American" would commit such horrific acts.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:21 pm
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I am so ashamed to have to admit that people like DeWayne walk our streets and pretend to be good Americans. Do you know why profiling was founded? Because it works, that's why? As the man said, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. There are no excuses to be made for that terrorist. But he's a good terrorist now and can go claim his virgins.
Ray, St. Robert - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:20 pm
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Perfect example: Lieutenant General Cone at the press conference just announced that the shooter is not dead. When information is reported as it comes it, much if it is going to be found later to be inaccurate.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:19 pm
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Serisously now. We know he is definitely muslim. Where he was born, there have been numerous reports, so still probably need more time to sort that one out. One place says he was under scrutiny by the FBI for statements he had made, another says he was a great American, and would never say anything like that. I have my opinion, but who knows if it is right. Listen to Fox News, CNN, CBS and then listen to the radio, and read the paper, and eventually, maybe we may know the truth. One thing we do know for sure, every outlet will put their spin on it, and we are going to be told we must be tolerant of the muslims, because it is truly a peaceful religion, very few of us will actually study it and know what it really teaches.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:18 pm
It wasn't my intent to shame or embarrass you, so you can dial back the sarcasm.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:17 pm
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You mean some in the media don't always tell the truth, or have their facts straight before they report something. Oh no! My faith is destroyed. Thought the TV media was always right, and the print and radio ware always wrong. Oh for shame, I am so embarassed.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Milkman,My bad. (first time I've ever used that silly expression)
My older brother, the Corvette enginer nicknamed "Jingles" was in the top 1% but I can't talk to him he is so smart.
One of the many tests he did with Corvettes is on the internutWhen he started working for G.M. they only had 1 computer where he worked so he built 3 more from scratch. Tests around 180 I.Q.
Floyd, Oklahoma - Nov 5, 2009 at 8:05 pm
boomer,

sure, any of the armed services can screw with your mind. If this was a random deal, I'd agree, but this isn't the only instance of this type of attack. The mall attack of what a year or two ago. The guy had a muslim name, professed Islam and shouted Allah Akbar while he was shooting, but what the hey, he was just another disturbed individual. Or the couple of instances where people of the Islamic faith tried to run people down with cars, the DC sniper etc. Time to call it like it is, I think. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and shoots people like an Islamic fanatic, then it's probably a terrorist attack.
c, Noble - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:57 pm
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Dewayne, keep in mind that information in the initial stages of events such as this one is usually not entirely accurate. I don't think CNN is purposely attempting to be biased. Besides, if they were, and they were hiding the fact that he is (allegedly) a native of Jordan, how would that make them conservative? Wouldn't most conservative people want that information known?

Additionally, CNN also just reported that the FBI was "watching" this person because of threatening internet postings regarding suicide bombings. That seems to contradict suppositions that CNN is hiding some sort of terrorist link.

Information at this point will be sketchy. That's the nature of events such as this.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm
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c, Noble: Quite plausible he was a plant. I'm not ruling that out. However, you have to understand the Army's ability to screw with your mind through "bad performance reviews", forced deployment, and given this guy had no wife or children, he was truly a loner waiting to blow up.
Boomer, Washington - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:42 pm
From the examiner.com
"There was speculation that Malik Nadal Hasan may have been of Muslim faith, but it has been confirmed that Malik Nadal Hasan was a native of Jordan, therefore unlikely a convert." Obviously the conservative media at CNN is trying to put some of their biased spin on this.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:40 pm
** meant American citizen by birth **
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:37 pm
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CNN said he was born in the US and was an American citizen. I don't know if that is confirmed or not, but if it's true then he's not a native of Jordan but a native of the US. I'm not saying he was or wasn't involved in any kind of terrorist activities, I'm just waiting for more information to be released.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:36 pm
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There are no terrorists. Only mistreated, misunderstood, tortured souls that have had their heritage destroyed by George Bush, the devil in disguise. He keeps trying to blame that fine offspring of the upper class of Saudi Arabian families for everything. Obviously, he is really a nice guy, since twice during his presidency, Bill Clinton said he was not a threat to our great country, so had him released by the evil countries that had arrested him.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Add native of Jordan per Dewayne to my Math problem for liberals post.
c, Noble - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:29 pm
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Math problem for liberals.
What do you get when you add one(?) US Army Psychiatrist Named Malik Nadal Hasan who kills 11 US Army soldiers, wounds 31 and professes the religion of Islam when we happen to be fighting Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Answer by liberals:
Obviously someone who suffered from PTSD and was angry with George Bush about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Could it not be that maybe, just maybe the guy was a plant? A sleeper? A terrorist in Army clothing?
c, Noble - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:27 pm
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Apparently a native of Jordan, not a convert, so once again, George Bush's fault. Without his conspiracy to have the poor immigrants destroy the WTC, pentagon and capitol building, this fine upstanding bred and born Muslim would have had no need to do anything like this.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Foremost, this was a soldier who did not want to be re-deployed to Iraq and/or Afghanistan. You would think the military would do a better job of ascertaining officer's mental health. We may never know the true motive, unless he left notes on a computer or something. However, to characterize this only as a crazed Muslim is really tunnel vision.
Boomer, Washington - Nov 5, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Floyd, you were not in the top 95%, you were in the top 5%. Even I know that. Jason was in the top 90%.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Jen, works for me.
Matt1, OKC - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:46 pm
http://pumapac.org/2009/11/05/id-like-to-give-a-shout-out-to-obama/
Jen, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:42 pm
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Milkman, Don't feel too bad if Jason can out -smart you.He beats me just about every discussion and I was in the top 95% of students in the U.S.
I do think I bested him on the Halloween discussion tho.
One time out of how many? I usually find it is simpler to take his side rather than be made a fool.
Floyd, Oklahoma - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:38 pm
GOD BLESS AMERICA and GOD BLESS OUR WOMEN AND MEN WHO SERVE IN THE MILITARY! My thoughts and prays are with the soldiers at Fort Hood tonight. God bless the U.S.A!
Sooners Win, Norman - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Somerlyn, his brother was just interviewed on the news.
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:33 pm
"I really need to learn to be disciplined enough to not read the postings on my home-state newspaper."---I sort of enjoy reading them every day. Makes me thankful I wasn't raised in this backwoods mentality, zealot, clod kicking environment.

Tell me, at what age is it prescribed that okies go through a mandatory frontal lobotomy anyway? I know it's got to be pretty young....

paul, yukon - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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I shouldn't be surprised that people immediately eat up what the silly media feeds them, yet it still suprises and disappoints me. This man may or may not be a Muslim, his ethnicity may be of Middle Eastern origin, but that doesn't mean it had anything to do at all with what happened today. To jump on the "OMG He's a radical Muslim" bandwagon just because the media is playing it's usual games, is stupid, plain and simple. Some of the other articles I've read pointed to the fact that the shooter was in the process of being deployed and had exhibited disturbed behavior. Things of this nature have happened before, not on this scale, but soldiers who have returned from deployment or are faced with it are under so much PTSD that they crack. So not only do you have to take that into consideration, but this man was a doctor who was a trained Psychiatrist. I can't begin to imagine what he has had to deal with in speaking with other soldiers and their problems, things that may have sent him over the edge.

I am in no way, shape, or form defending his actions. I am pointing out that you can't automatically assume that this was some radical Muslim attack on a US base just because of his name or possible ethnicity. I'm interested in finding out who these other two accomplices are as well. That should put an interesting spin on things.
Somerlyn, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:29 pm
This is the fault of every Republican president starting with Abraham Lincoln. He signed the Emancipation Proclimation, all they way to Richard Nixon for helping the Shah of Iran, to George Bush. He is the devil in disguise and everything that happens to this country until it falls, is his fault. If he had not paid those terrorists to fly the planes into the WTC, the Pentagon and attempt to get the capitol, then he would not have had an excuse to invade Iraq, then we would not have been sending this fine upstanding American Iraq, and causing him to feel the need to start a holy war at Fort Hood. Surely he will get his virgins when he meets Mohammad.
Dewayne, Newcastle - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Whether we admit it or not, Western Civilization is at war with the phony "religion" of Islam. All of it. All of them. This is just the beginning. Why on earth we let one of those people in the military is beyond me. We need an American "Crystal Night." Destroy all their mosques. Throw all of them into the sea.
Randall, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Brock, they also said he was a loner. I guess we need to kick all loners out of the service. He also didn't want to go to the war zone. I'm sure it's because he flew over the Oklahoma panhandle once.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Tweedledee, it wasn't long ago that here in the US a Muslim father ran over his daughter because of his radical religion. Wasn't long ago a man shot his wife because of her lack of attention to that religion. Where is the dividing line? Are there different levels in that religion or do the majority supposedly just ignore that evil stuff?
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:15 pm
... and yep. The Muslim community has been in an outrage concerning the acts of radicals. It's everywhere. You can't miss it. The problem is, lots of fragile little feelers get hurt we have to use name and heritage to identify a Muslim radical. This guy might not even be one. I'm half expecting one of the other guys to be named Josh or something. That aside, it's also ignorant to rule out extremism when the criteria fits. There's two sides to every argument though, so you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Yeehaw.
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Btw, it's slowly coming out that this Hassan had recent outspoken political comments against the US.
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Wife wants my attention-got to go hope the wounded are healed and returned fit for full duty-god bless those who lost their lives I hope the other 2 involved if involved get death swiftly....
god bless you all...
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Brock, I'm afraid you're missing my sentiment.
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Brock, Beaver they have spoken out-it just doesn't get publicity in Oklahoma I guess it's on T.V. in Washington D.C....
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Tweedledee I've had Violent Arabs try to kill me-still I won't associate all with one. I understand your point. I grew up in Oklahoma for 20 years I know all southern baptist aren't in the klan-my father is a southern baptist and he's too dark to join! My point is some people just associate Hassan with Radical and that's like me associating every southern baptist as a klansmen and I don't and I have met klan in Mississippi, they aren't to ashamed to let you know how they feel....
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Tweedledee, I might have a bit more understanding of your sentiment if the non-violent muslims would simply speak out against the violent ones. As it is now, they've remained silent. Why is that?
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:07 pm
This country needs to stop being so politically correct and stop letting anyone in the military.
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Jason, on the subject about guns on campus and putting John in his usual place, well said!
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Byron - I've yet to actually meet a violent Arab or Muslim. There's a big ol' difference between Muslims and Muslim radicals. That's like trying to assume every Southern Baptist is a member of the KKK. I've also yet to dawn a white sheet. However, we've got CNN saying the guy is a converted Muslim. He's taken out 12 people on a military base. He's either got a lot of stress or he's one of those people who make up less than one percent of the Muslim faith. It could be either.
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:57 pm
I remember working in Mustang and Blanchard Oklahoma back in 97 and some GOOD OLE BOY telling me to "be careful aroung here." Ah to see 12 years later some things don't change....
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:57 pm
What I find amazing is that all of you are zeroing in on the one who was killed, and not wondering who the other 2 are that assisted. Story said three shooters not one. This will be very interesting to see how this story unfolds.
don, Choctaw - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:55 pm
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Well Tweedledee be PREJUDICE you have a right to my feeling aint hurt I just know racism and prejudice when I see it...not every Arab or Muslim is violent-but how would I know that I've only left Oklahoma to go around the world 20 times over....
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Royce we don't really care if Iraq collapses right. Heck ole Husseign copped limbs and heads off and that shouldn't have been any of our business right. You lefties are a peculiar bunch, in that you really don't know what you want! Byron, I never said they Arabs were all bad, but again, it is a piece of the puzzle I will look at. If I am on a plane and the captain says that the cockpit has been overtaken and there are hijackers aboard...I am not going to get concerned if I am sitting by a 90 year old lady, but I might be prejudice in who I start checking out, to take out!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Billy, I know he kicks my butt. That's why he puts me on ignore because he is such a stud. I'm surprised at you Billy, you don't even know if he is a bible thumper like you. But, he needs your help, so hang with him.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:54 pm
oh yeah I am typing 1000 miles a minute forgive the misspellings... ;)
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Yikes, guys! You're flinging poo at each other for the same cause. I'm no psychologist, but anyone who could walk into a room and drop 12 people has mental problems. What caused it? Heck. I don't know... but you can bet he had them. Are the people who are examining that last name a little more closely after the fact ignorant? Give me a break. We can't guarantee whether that did or didn't have anything to do with it, but we can't just pass it over because we're afraid somebody's gonna get their "feelers" hurt. Oh yeah.. and Yeehaw. There's that good ol' Okie mentality coming out of me.
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Billy you may be right-I'd still would want to torture him and pick his stupid a** brain for this crap, then kill him. I guess we did save a lot of tax dollars however.
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:50 pm
They just showed a picture of the shooter on CNN.
If we pull out of Iraq it will collapse. That's why we are still there.
One of many horrible mistakes of bush.
Royce - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:47 pm
And Billy truthfully I don't know if he had a break down he may have all the sudden turned UNAMERICAN during his last term of service-I just WON"T ASSOCIATE a arabic name with terroris just because-I refuse to PREJUDGE. If you he did all the sudden or is found to have been a terrorist yes I will tell you that you called this ONE right-still not all arabs are evil not even 70% of them.
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Byron I am glad his is dead. The way our justice system works these days, he would have probably got off on a technicality!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Milk, do you really think you can hold your own with Jason. He always makes you look like an idiot but you always come back for more!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:45 pm
And I am not defending this punk who did what he did-I'm simply saying just because his last name is "HASSAN" doesn't make him unAmerican. The next Hassan you might meet will have nothing to do with this jerk, but many on this post associate him as a raghead and towelhead and as a fellow service member I find that offensive....I do however wish we could lock this coward up...but he got away easy...I'd rather see him in Lavenworth then execute him.....
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Byron, I have served and we will see if it was a breakdown and then you can say Sorry Billy! I have people in Iraq and I KNOW what they are going through.
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Royce, why are we still there then, pray tell. If the "regressives" are now running the country, and they believe the war is wrong, then they are chief among hypocrites!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Jason, Edmond, More idiotic posts by none other than an idiot.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Billy have you served??? I AM SERVING just because it was premeditated doesn't mean he didn't have a mental problem. Goto Iraq for a few years and tell me how you feel!!!
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Jason, If you want to get away with a crime in America, you might want to get you at least an Arabic name. It is a good thing his name wasn't pastor Mike!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Some more casualties of the moron George W Bush.
The only plausible reason so far is that we went to Irag because Saddam threatened Bushes daddy.
Royce - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Byron, most with "mental breakdowns" prepare to sneak two guns on a base and shoot 43 unarmed people!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:36 pm
BILLY, one notes that our scumbag Leftists/"progressives" - the regular poster and some new ones - leap right to the defense of the shooter, and attempt to blame his horrific crime on "PTSD" (in other words, on the United States) when they don't have the slightest clue as to what prompted this act.
Jason, Edmond - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Milk we will just let the chips fall where they may,tweedle said it best, it is just a part of the puzzle, but it might very well be a part. Do I suddenly hate everyone with an arabic name, you know better. I am glad that he is dead so that there are not 400 lawyers ready to defend the misunderstood scumbag...Yes!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:34 pm
converted to islam.. enough said
Harry, Douglas - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:34 pm
"Just goes to show the fallacy of the arguement that arming students on college campuses avoids these types of slaughter." - And how, exactly, is that, John? Military posts and installations are some of the biggest "guns free zones" you'll ever walk across - gun control paradise. You either have to be in the police forces or under orders to tote loaded weapons around. Once again, another moronic statement out of the savant from Norman.
Jason, Edmond - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:31 pm
That good ole boy Okie mentality shines through again....so what the guy was Arabic? He was a Commissioned Officer who had a true mental breakdown and probably had some serious mental illness. It doesn't matter where he's from or his orgin. To say because his last name is "Hassan" he can't be patriotic is moronic. Thus why Oklahoma only has 6 electorial votes...get a brain.
And god bless my fellow service members who died today-we shall remember! God be with their families...
Byron, Suitland - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Whats an american name? Chief osceloa? Definitely the average white or black mans name is not american, its european so anyone making judgements about this guy for his name needs to realize how much american they truly are themselves, and thats not much!
Chris, Edmond - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Billy, I have strong suspicions about the shooter--I've seen too much along these lines. But I'm waiting for more details.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Nothing wrong with examination, KG. As long as conclusions aren't jumped to at the expense of people who didn't do anything.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Billy, Are you defending the ignorant posts here? If you are than you are under a whole new perspective.

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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:26 pm
stinker, still 43 people with two handguns. I bet this guy had a bad childhood. The only bright spot...he's dead!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:26 pm
All weapons are supposed to be locked up in the armory so he obviously had it planned out to sneak them through. Obviously premeditated and thoroughly thought out. He wasn't just angry and flipped out. This was deliberate.
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Milkman=Okie and too dumb to even know it!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Third post is a charm... (especially when I should probably be doing something productive. lol).

Is it wrong to think that just because a person has an Arabic name they are capable of shooting fellow soldiers in a military base? Yes. Is it wrong to seek out other people of Arabic descent and make them pariahs out of fear? Absolutely. Is it wrong to use his heritage as a clue to what might have happened (after he already did it) for the sake of discussion on a board put here for discussion? Nope. It's not naive or wrong to examine a piece of the puzzle.
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Sen. Hutchison is reporting that the guy may have been impersonating an officer.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:20 pm
CNN is reporting that Hassan is licensed in Va. to practice medicine.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:19 pm
This is terrible! It's being reported that the shooting was a deliberate act done in execution style and that he was not a nutcase.
Brock, Beaver - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:14 pm
And here's something else to think about: we don't know the names of anyone who got shot. How many of them had Arabic names? Or Hispanic? Or on and on. Let's let the investigators tell us why this guy did it.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I really need to learn to be disciplined enough to not read the postings on my home-state newspaper. What an embarrassment -- just stresses me out that people can be so stupid and naive. Wow.
Scott, Spring - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Amy, you make a very valid point, and I respect it. I can whine better than any Frenchy in this joint, for what it's worth. In this case, though, you can take solace in knowing that no one on this particular board suspected Sgt. Hasan's name until after he shot up a military base. I mean, that's a pretty good time to raise some suspicion, right? That's one of those cases where no one is saying, "He's got an Arabic name. I hope he doesn't blow himself up in walmart." People are actually saying.. "Holy crap, he shot 12 people at Fort Hood AND he's got an Arabic name."
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Billy, they were shot at the processing center--guys standing in line, likely. Lots crammed together.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:04 pm
the devil made him do it
keith, Boise City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:03 pm
A lot of jumping to conclusions on here because the guy has an Arabic name. That okie thinking shines through again.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 5:02 pm
You realize there are Americans who have Arabic names, right? Your name is French, so you must be French. Can you recommend a good wine? I already know you can recommend a whine.
Amy Faye, Ada - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:55 pm
My heart breaks for those who are suffering as a result of this.

... and yeah, at the risk of a few jabs being sent my direction, "Malik Nadal Hasan" doesn't exactly spell out the picture of patriotism.
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:54 pm
makes you wonder how many more of these peace-loving people are in the ranks waiting to kill as many infidels as they can.
Buzz Lightyear, OKC - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:54 pm
I'm actually surprised that the White House is allowing the media to tell his name and not trying to hide it.
Michelle, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm
God help our nation!
Michelle, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Yeah...Malik Nadal Hasan...I'm sure he was born and raised in like Montana or something. Just a good ol' boy. Rrrrrright!
Michelle, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Shooter was a recent convert to Islam.
Cletus, Mayberry - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Malik Nadal Hasan, real American. I'll bet the two in custody have those raghead names as well.

Let's get one thing straight. They WEREN'T American.
dustin, edmond - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Army Major Malik Nadal Hasan is identified as shooter.
g, oklahoma city - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:44 pm
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This is a very sad day for our fallen soliders and their family's. My heart goes out to there family's. RIP..... It is very sad that our world has came to.
MARY, YUKON - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:39 pm
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They are now saying one shooter. I am trying to picture one shooter shooting 43 people with two hand guns!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Terrible - absolutely tragic. Since this was apparently organized and involved more than one person, it's quite suspicious....but I'd hate speculate before we get more info.
Jason, Edmond - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Ugh. Ignore the bad grammar in my last post. Migraine and lack of glasses make for bad typing.
Amy Faye, Ada - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Amy Faye, Ada - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:26 pm
There goes my five minutes speech trying to convince my grandfather that Muslims aren't all extremeists. Or that not all Middle Easterns are Muslim, for that matter.
Amy Faye, Ada - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:25 pm
The shooter that was killed is named as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. Just your typical average American GI.. I'm sure.
T. A., Moore - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:21 pm
"A senior administration official told NBC News analyst Roger Cressey that the suspect who was in custody was an Army major with an Arabic-sounding name. The official said the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack." I'm sure that's what it was because if it wasn't, as soon as the FBI gets there, they'll make sure there's no "terrorist" connection.
T. A., Moore - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:06 pm
So far nothing has been said whether it was a soldier, civilian, illegal immigrant or terrorist. Just one in custody and possibly a second shooter involved. Let us wait for some facts before we make any judgments.
mike, Ponca City - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:02 pm
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This is also the anniversary of the Gunpowder Treason, but who knows if anyone in the media will make that connection.
Amy Faye, Ada - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Does any one know when they are going to say who has been wounded and killed??!
Taylor, yukon - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:52 pm
yeah, how could obama let this happen?? he doesn't care about Americans!
Buzz Lightyear, OKC - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Wow, someone actually managed to make this terrible situation into an issue about Obama. Typical.
H, Alhambra, CA - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:38 pm
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I agree with Robin either post traumatic stress or someone simply lost it. My heart goes out to the families of those killed
Nicole, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Another societal reject lied to by their recruiter snaps and goes postal. At least it was on base and not in the surrounding community.
Cletus, Mayberry - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:22 pm
This is awful. My thoughts are with those families who lost loved ones.
Andrew, Norman - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:21 pm
WTF?????????????
This is awful!
J, Norman - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:16 pm
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LG..what does don't ask and don't tell have to do with this horror?
Kim, Yukon - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:12 pm
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BBC said someone got ahold of a high powered sniper rifle and shot at a graduation ceremony and an onbase theatre.
Rex, Yukon - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:12 pm
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Kevin and Cale, don't ask and don't tell will result in more unless obama rejects it or maybe he will blame this on George Bush or maybe invite the survivors for a beer.
LG, Yukon - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:09 pm
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Ditto, Cale--was it 'ours' or 'theirs' that did the shooting?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Just goes to show the fallacy of the arguement that arming students on college campuses avoids these types of slaughter.
John, Norman - Nov 5, 2009 at 2:59 pm
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PTSD
Robin, Edmond - Nov 5, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Such a sensitive posting, Cale, OKC. Glad to have your comment. [Unless you have missed it, my comment was sarcastic.]
barbara, Oklahoma City - Nov 5, 2009 at 2:57 pm
WTF?????????????????
Cale, oklahoma city - Nov 5, 2009 at 2:52 pm
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