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David Stanley Ford

Cotton, Alamo Bowls are legitimate possibilities for Oklahoma State

By BRANDON CHATMON, Staff Writer, bchatmon@opubco.com    Comments Comment on this article42
Published: November 3, 2009

STILLWATER — The Oklahoma State football team is moving past its 41-14 loss to Texas on Saturday.


Oklahoma State’s last trip to the Cotton Bowl was in January 2004, where they lost to Ole Miss. Photo by Steve Sisney, The Oklahoman Archives

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The Pokes’ program, however, might still be thinking about Texas. Not the Longhorns but the prospects of spending the holidays in the Lone Star state.

Texas might be the ideal destination for the Cowboys’ postseason hopes with both the Cotton and Alamo emerging as legitimate possibilities for OSU’s bowl game.

The Bedlam showdown with Oklahoma on Nov. 28 might be a battle for a Cotton Bowl berth if neither team slips up in the next three weeks. OSU and OU are tied for second place in the Big 12 South, and with every team in the Big 12 North struggling, it appears the No. 2 team in the South would likely be selected by the Cotton Bowl.

If OSU finishes 9-3 with a loss to OU, the Alamo Bowl emerges as another legit option for the Pokes’ postseason, especially if the Holiday Bowl shies away from back-to-back matchups including the Cowboys.

A postseason bowl game in Texas is ideal for the Cowboys.

It gives several key contributors, including running back Keith Toston, offensive lineman Russell Okung, linebackers Andre Sexton and Patrick Lavine and cornerbacks Perrish Cox and Terrance Anderson, the chance to enjoy their final game in their home state.

It gives Cowboy fans the option to drive to the postseason bowl game. The December. 2004 Alamo Bowl and January 2004 Cotton Bowl were perfect for Cowboy fans looking for a bowl experience within a day’s drive.

And it gives the program plenty of positive exposure in either Dallas/Fort Worth or San Antonio, both key recruiting areas.

"Anytime you play in the fertile recruiting grounds of Texas, kids can drive and see you play,” offensive coordinator Gunter Brewer said. "The newspapers are circulating more stories about the game, and that’s good for you in the recruiting circuit.”

Direct contact is limited with recruits, but seeing the Cowboys up close and personal can do wonders for getting the program additional exposure in Texas, which can play huge dividends on Signing Day 2010 and beyond.

"Word of mouth is your best recruiting tool,” Brewer said. "It’s just like a good restaurant, word gets around whether it is good or not good.”

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I can see OSU going to the Cotton but not OU. OSU will end up with
2-3 losses, while OU could end up with 4-5. I don't think the Cotton would want a 5 loss team playing there. Texas Tech is a legit cause for OU fans to worry, and with Bedlam, it's a real easy possibility to see the Cowboys take one in OU's house this year, even without Dez. The Texas Jitters that Zac had won't be there in Norman, and with more receivers getting good play, OSU should give OU a run for their money. The Cowboys will be looking for a good bowl to choose from while OU will be hoping for Shreveport to come calling.
Phil, Guthrie - Nov 5, 2009 at 4:02 am
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Tidbits from a visiting OU fan... Must admit, the Sooner cookie joke is funny. As we both have lost star players(what was Dez thinking) - this year's OU-OSU game should be a good one. OU has its fair share of "bubba's", but the OSU trolls are usually stirring it up on the OU boards as well. Regarding the media...I would not like it either if my team was the #2 college team in a market. However, everybody (including Trabor) knows the real reason why OU gets more press than OSU... numbers.
Jim, Wichita - Nov 4, 2009 at 4:53 pm
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Is a remora one of those things which latches onto sharks or other aquatic life? I looked it up on my computerized Amercian Heritage Dictionary and it wasn't listed as a word. But I think I saw some remoras once on a Jacque Cousteau special. Jason---give it a rest---you were jist called a remora on a sports website. Maybe a time to compose, reflect and adjust. You may have reached rock bottom. JMO

El Prez, Deer Creek
- Nov 4, 2009 at 9:09 am
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No, Jason, you refuse to continue discussion BECAUSE of the valid points. Your idea of discussion is to spout innuendo and opinion then resort to name calling because you can not refute anything presented.

But you are right about one thing. I am not worthy of argument/conversation with "a person such as [you]" because you know nothing about collegiate sports but have this overwhelming, needy attachment to OU for no other reason than they have a proud history. You have no life or accomplishments of your own so you latch onto the Sooner program like a remora. Too pathetic to establish your own station in life so you cling to whatever populist positon you can in order to fulfill your Oprah-inspired sense of empowerment. I usually feel sorry for pathetic souls in this world but you...you I enjoy taking the time every now and then to put in your rightful place.
Barry, Fort Collins - Nov 4, 2009 at 12:08 am
Jason, you are such a loser. Not even your own fan base likes you (unless you count Gary or Todd the goat humper).
Jacob, Kansas - Nov 3, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Was it the same coach who got Bomar the job at Big Red?

I also find it funny that you take the moral high ground only when you are proven wrong, and in the same breath call people names.

PS. if you ever need a bookie, give me a call!!!
John, Harrah - Nov 3, 2009 at 10:12 pm
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Okay Barry/John both you are tools and I refuse to argue with two idiots such as yourself. At least Classless Travis and Jacob make a valid point from time to time. You are not worth of an argument/conversation with a person such as myself. On a last note before you go spouting off about rankings don't forget lOSU'rs still have to visit Norman.

OU 52 OSU 7
Jason, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Did I hit a nerve Jason, do you have to resort to acting like a 3rd grader? If you are indeed an OU expert tell me which coach gave Broyles the key to all the gas pumps in Norman?
John, Harrah - Nov 3, 2009 at 9:30 pm
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79-16-7

Who cares except those who live vicariously through OU football. Oops, that would be you. None of that means anything in 2009.

Barry, Fort Collins - Nov 3, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Jason, you did predict an OSU loss to missouri. 66-3 is nowhere near 41-14. Yeah, Texas COULD have scored more just like OSU COULD have caught the TD pass, COULD have made the field goal, etc. You made a prediction that was so wrong you make Jeanne Dixon look intelligent by comparison.

I have watched the game a second time and if you go onto the OSU website, you can get a play by play to see who made the tackles and who handled the ball. McCoy ran the first UT series of the fourth. On offense, Gilbert came in on the second series but everyone else was the same. The last series had second teamers at the skill positions with the same offensive line. Defense was essentially the same with all UT tackles in the last two series' made by players who had also registered tackles in the first quarter. Starters.

We got beat. Bad? If it were so bad, why did voters in all polls drop them just 4-5 places? If it were so horrible, they would have dropped out of the rankings.

Speaking of which, just where is your "Division 1" team ranked compared to OSU? Since OU will not be playing for the B12 championship, you heard it here first, folks...Jason says OU is not a Division 1 team. Right, Jason? That is your stated criteria. Forget the past because it means nothing in 2009. Glory days are what you live vicariously through. The scoreboard right now has OSU ahead in every ranking and standing. Call me all the names you want, it is the first rule of a lost argument, ignore the facts and insult your opponent. But I never expected you to distinguish a fact from an opinion.
Barry, Fort Collins - Nov 3, 2009 at 9:24 pm
79-16-7

In over 100 tries, OSU has managed 16 wins. Thats a winning percentage of approximately 15%.

Nuff said turd bag John.
Jason, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Jason is very qualified to judge when a team puts in the second string, since OU's opponents have done it in their last 3 bowl games.

Tech - 35 OU - 24
oSu - 24 OU - 17
John, Harrah - Nov 3, 2009 at 8:50 pm
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I never made a Missouri prediction dummie. And you expect Mack to replace all 11 players on the field at the same time? He had 2nd and 3rd string players in the game on both sides of the ball the entire 4th quarter, go re-watch the game if you can stomach it and quit trying to sugar coat it, you got beat, bad. How many series do you think Texas had in the fourth quarter???I'm not 100% sure but I will bet that it wasn't more than 2 or 3. And your trying to justify that there was one starter making a tackle in the fourth quarter?? Who cares your just making it look worse Barry, you look like a big Sallie. My prediction of 66-3 was a heck of a lot closer than you thought the game would be. Silly pokes Big 12 championships are for Div 1
teams.
Jason, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 7:22 pm
So now you are qualifying it with what ifs and buts? Say it with me, you were wrong, again. Not even close. Just like Missouri, and all the rest. You know nothing about football, you just hate OSU.

BTW, Texas ran just two offensive series' with the #2 QB and despite what you THINK you know, McCoy came out in the second to last series but the rest were starters while the last series had second teamers at the skill positions. The last OSU play was stopped by Curtis Brown...a STARTING defensive player. You were wrong, again, as always.
Barry, Fort Collins - Nov 3, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Barry my 66-3 prediciton wasn't too far off kilter when you consider it was 41-7 at the start of the 4th quarter when Mack put his 2nd and 3rd string offense and defense in the game. Could have easily hung 60 on the Chokes and not allowed that second touchdown.
Jason, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 6:50 pm
0-10

Accuracy of Jason/OKC's last 10 predictions.

Nuff said
Barry, Fort Collins - Nov 3, 2009 at 6:20 pm
79-16-7 Nuff said.

OU 52 OSU 7
Jason, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Oh man I have met my match. Now I am so ashamed. Guess I should jump on that Poke Bandwagon now. Seems like that the thing to do these days.
Darren, Elk City - Nov 3, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Same for your Fiesta bowl runner up or Orange bowl stepchild shirts.
How do you make Sooner Cookies? - put em in a bowl and beat em for 4 hours.
John, Harrah - Nov 3, 2009 at 4:53 pm
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Jampalbo, I saw someone wearing that faded orange 16-13 shirt at a Halloween party last week. If we made shirts for everytime OU beat OSU, I would have to build on an extra closet.
Darren, Elk City - Nov 3, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Hey Chance, did you read the paragraph right above that? It says the bedlam showdown could determine who goes to the Cotton Bowl. That right there is giving you the first scenario.
Darren, Elk City - Nov 3, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Funny how your bias shows again..."With a lose to OU..." ... how come you don't paint the scenario with a 10 - 2 record and a win over ou? lol...the gooner media is so pathetic.
Chance, Broken Arrow - Nov 3, 2009 at 3:23 pm
You better hope for the Independence bowl Gary, unless you want to lose 4 in a row. We'll see if your still talking after a TT loss and an oSu loss.
John, Harrah - Nov 3, 2009 at 2:11 pm
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As long as the OKC media if from OU, went there, lives there, played there, etc...they will not be even in coverage. Every nite I sat thru 10 minutes of OU insignificant info (what's the lastest on Sam when Bob says there is no info) to see if there was News on Dez (which was a hot topic). We need reporters with some experience from the outside world. However, as far as I know, you dont go to Hell for being non objective...or maybe you do.
TMS - Nov 3, 2009 at 2:08 pm
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OSU could definitely use a Texas located bowl game to help in recruiting the much coveted Texas high school recruits.
Last Saturday's loss to Texas showed the still wide gap of talent between Texas and OSU.
I love OSU, but let's be real -- we (and most of the Big 12)are in need of more recruits that are normally going to Texas.
Texas has too many.
Our OSU fans travel well and in this economy it makes more sense for our fan base to enjoy our Cowboys success in Texas.
San Diego's nice and I certainly wouldn't mind it, but our recruiting is much better in Texas after a Texas bowl game.
..and ou and Gary still sux.
Danny, Vail - Nov 3, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I think TT will beat both OU and OSU.
TMS - Nov 3, 2009 at 2:03 pm
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i would not want to go back to the holiday bowl because that means playing the trojans almost in their back yard.
Patrick, sapulpa - Nov 3, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Gary, you have no room to talk buddy.
Jacob, Kansas - Nov 3, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Whatever games that have been played are all in the past. Some good, some REALLY good, and some really bad. Im an OSU fan. I have always hated Texas, and still do of course. So with that being said, noone knows who is going to end up where in bowl games. Only the future will tell. I am hoping for the best for the Pokes. Whatever that may be.
Angela, Yukon - Nov 3, 2009 at 11:24 am
Rob, if Texas wins the Big 12 Championship game and goes to the NC, then no one from the Big 12 can go to the Fiesta Bowl. Our place becomes an at large bid if we don't have any other Big 12 team that is BCS eligible. Now if the North wins the Big 12 Championship, they go to the Fiesta Bowl and it could look not so good if they chose Texas to still go to the NC but with the BCS calculations, anything is possible.
M, Edmond - Nov 3, 2009 at 10:39 am
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FOU. About 40 years. How long did it take you to become a classless, foul mouthed, trashy talking OSU fan? After your post, how can you guys sit there and call OU fans classless? Oh yeah, I forgot, you're aggies, you are clueless.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 10:31 am
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Gary, Oklahoma City - how long did it take you to become a total and complete dOUchebag?
FOU, OKC - Nov 3, 2009 at 9:07 am
El Prez. Here are few more numbers for you: 24 wins 43 losses. That's the pukes record against the Texas teams and OU since the inception of the Big 12. Take out the 12 wins against Baylor (yes the mighty Pokes lost 1 to Baylor) who should not even be considered D1 and you have a stellar record of 12 wins versus 43 losses against the Texas teams and OU. Cotton Bowl? Keep dreamin you poor aggies. I'd say that you'll be lucky to make the Tidy Bowl after you play OU and the Texas schools. But keep it up. That's what makes you Aggies.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 9:00 am
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Yes Neel we all remember 16-13 and how that was 8 years ago. I'm sure you still got the bumper sticker and a faded t-shirt from that great game in Norman. Keep holding on bud. Keep obsessing over OU Neel.
jampalbo, norman - Nov 3, 2009 at 8:35 am
Neel get over it. The Oklahoman has gone out of their way to make amends with OSU. Even Traber admits that O State coverage is commiserate with their actual accomplishments on the football field. There is no conspiracy to denigrate the Cowboys--they just haven't done that much to warrant all the things you seem to feel need to be written about them.

Bob Simmons era 30-38
Les Miles era 28-21
Mike Gundy era 27-23 before this season

No league titles. No BCS appearances. What exactly is it you want the Oklahoman to do as a newspaper to make this better for O State fans? Seriously--when Eddie Sutton took his team to two Final Fours--O State was front and center...as it should have been. O State fans need to quit whining about perceived slights and win a league championship, go to a BCS bowl and seriously contend for a national title. I usually don't get emeshed into the OU-OSU bickering, but it is this very mindset from O State fans which drives me crazy. The world is not out to get you. Just win. It's about winning. That's why they have a scoreboard.

El Prez, Deer Creek
- Nov 3, 2009 at 8:00 am
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danny ou fans forget lubbock magic....that said I agree we didnt take care of business against UT but its all good its behind and time to move on....we have a legit shot at getting ou in Norman and before all you morons start calling me out remember 16-13 and no I dont need to be reminded of the series history but stranger things have happened.....but goons remember Lubbock magic....Go Pokes
Neel, Sugar Land - Nov 3, 2009 at 7:59 am
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Too bad Dez didn't just gouge at the NCAA investigators eyes. Apparantly a HALF-GAME suspension would have been enough.......I think the NCAA should ask Brandon Spikes if he intentionally tried to gouge Ealey's eyes. If he says yes suspend him for the season for it. If he says no.....well you know what you get for lying.......
curtis, cushing - Nov 3, 2009 at 7:44 am
Am I missing something? If Texas plays in the NC game then who will represent the Big XII in the Fiesta Bowl, surely not a team from the North. Wouldn't it be the second place South team?
Rob, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 7:32 am
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OU should be able to beat T-Tech, but Tech is one of the most inconsistent teams in the nation. They have wild mood swings and it is hard to tell where they will land on a given day. I wouldn't be all that surprised if OU beats them by 30 or if Tech beats OU by 30.
Travis, OKC - Nov 3, 2009 at 7:31 am
Danney, don't be to sure about the not going to the Cotton. Not only could the Cowboys win in norman, but, do you think the sooners can beat the Red Raiders in Lubbock?
David, Albuquerque - Nov 3, 2009 at 6:29 am
Neel had your cowboys just won against texas you wouldn't have to take out your anger against the oklahoman. But now the cowboys will win out until bedlam and go to either the holiday or alamo bowl.
Danney, Oklahoma City - Nov 3, 2009 at 1:03 am
you know if ou was in the position OSU was they would be saying that the goons could get a BCS game but heaven forbid this paper give OSU a chance....its a long shot but we win out and texas wins out who knows??? Go Pokes....would love to see OSU in the cotton bowl though!!!
Neel, Sugar Land - Nov 3, 2009 at 12:28 am
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