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Ada school reviews wall discipline
Ada principal says parents can request their children receive other punishments

BY VALLERY BROWN    Comments Comment on this article8
Published: October 31, 2009

ADA — Parents who object to a school policy of lining students up against the side of the brick school house as punishment can now put their names on a list, Willard Grade Center Principal Kevin Mann said Friday.

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Students whose names are on the list will receive other punishments, Mann said. There are 386 fifth- and sixth-graders attending the school. So far, two students are on the list.

Mann said school officials are reviewing the policy after concerns were raised earlier this week by Amy Caton, mother of a sixth-grader who was made to face the wall after not turning in his homework.

Caton said the policy is humiliating. She removed her son, Jonathan, from school for a week after a disagreement with Mann over the discipline.

"The new list is at least a compromise,” Caton said. "There are parents who agree with the policy, but there are some who weren’t aware of it.”

Caton said she’s still not sure whether she will bring the issue before the school board. She intends to talk to other parents to gauge their opinions.

Mann said he sees the punishment as a tool to correct behavior problems, not humiliation.

"But I can see that it could come across that way,” he said. "I’m not saying we won’t tweak it.”

Mann said the policy was in place before he took over as principal last year. Caton’s is the first complaint he’s received.

The discipline policy progresses in its severity, he said. Standing against the wall during recess is used to correct minor behavior problems. It is followed by after-school detention and restricting the student’s activities. The last and most severe discipline is expulsion.

"Our hands are tied in public schools as far as what we can do to correct behaviors,” Mann said. "We don’t want to humiliate kids. That’s not what we do.”

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I applaud the parent and principal for coming to a compromise. I am not quite sure if I agree with the wall to the nose punishment. I do not think it teaches anything. Perhaps a homework detention might be more helpful. The student misses a couple of recesses and has to complete the missed assignment. It would be taking a privilege away and at the same time the work gets done. Unfortunately some teacher will have to miss a break to monitor the class.

I think the real issue however, is parents being parents and being responsible for their kids. Deadlines are a way of life. In the workforce you miss to many of them, you are out of a job. Kids have to learn this from an early age. I am a strong believer that when the paddle was taken out of the schools chaos entered in. Am I advocating paddling? I am not sure because kids aren't spanked at home so I don't think it won't do any good except having parents make a scene. I just see a correlation between the two. I feel sorry for teachers if the have 25 kids there are at least 30 bosses, the parents, and wouldn't you know they all are right. It's the teacher and or the schools fault. awd
- Oct 31, 2009 at 11:42 pm
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And when the kid is apprehended with some shoplifted item, the parent
will be before the police and/or judge saying, "My kid wasn't treated
fair and the punishment isn't fair". C'mon, help make sure your kid
is on the straight path.
Don, Washington - Oct 31, 2009 at 11:06 am
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That policy sucks, I remember kids getting swatted back in the day for even less. You know kids will clown the other students with their head against the wall, guess that'll show em'.
The G.O.A.T., Oklahoma City - Oct 31, 2009 at 10:11 am
Wow...staring at a wall...boo hoo! For every act there are consequences..this is what is wrong with kids these days...not enough parents make their kids accountable...the future scares me!
Carol, Oklahoma City - Oct 31, 2009 at 10:08 am
I'm pretty sure that he will do his homework next time! I am an educator and most people need to come walk a week in our shoes to see the kinds of behavior from these kids and then a parent that is in denial. I bet if a study were done these kids would be the same kids that are in jail later in life because mom and dad tried to control a situation by going to the school board. Just like someone else posted, this mom probably never read the policies and never shows up at school for anything until her "baby" is "humiliated" on the wall. REALLY!? Is that what you call humiliating? Let them learn from their mistakes-they won't do it again!
Traci, Oklahoma City - Oct 31, 2009 at 9:07 am
Dear Principal, please allow Amy to choose as Jonathan's punishment giving up his after school latte today and assigning him 45 minutes of Wii on ITunes Tuesday of next month. Sincerely, Mr. and Mrs. Wuss, Your Average Modern Concerned Parents of the Children Who Stared at Walls.
Percy F., Ardmore - Oct 31, 2009 at 8:12 am
Amy Caton is a piss poor example to her kid. If she didn't know what the discipline was before hand, she should've read the policy. But instead, she waits until it affects HER child before raising hell about it. On top of that, she showed great disrespect to her son's principal while her son was present. The message she sent to her son was, "The rules don't apply to you" and "If an authority figure tells you to do something you don't like, mommy will bail you out". Had she respectfully discussed this with the principal or the school board AFTER her son received his discipline, that's entirely acceptable. But she has done a great disservice to her son. What a disgraceful human being.
Cracka, OKC - Oct 31, 2009 at 6:30 am
And the pussification of America continues.
Cletus, Mayberry - Oct 31, 2009 at 1:20 am

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