Immigration crackdown called devastating to economy
Immigration crackdown called devastating to economy

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By Devona Walker
Published: September 18, 2007

The telephone lines in Oklahoma City's Capitol Hill area were afire two weeks ago, as word spread that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents had set up checkpoints on S Harvey and Robinson streets.

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Neighbors called to warn each other. Children were corralled into homes. The streets, typically full of restaurant goers and shoppers, nearly were bare.

That raid netted about 65 arrests, sending waves of panic through the predominately Hispanic neighborhood. But that panic pales in comparison to the effect of plans currently underway in Washington.

On that Capitol Hill, the Department of Homeland Security has unveiled a 26-point initiative that, among other things, requires all employers to terminate workers who use fake Social Security numbers.

"We know that people in the Latino community are really scared. You can see it, walking on the streets. People are selling their houses. They are leaving,” said Julianna Stout, 27, who edits a Spanish language publication called El Nacional de Oklahoma.

"They aren't just going to another state; they are going back to their countries of origin, which is not a good thing. It's not good for the economy,” she added.

Employers who do not comply may face fines or criminal sanctions

Department of Homeland Security officials said the initiative is designed to strike at the root of illegal immigration — the availability of jobs. Stepped up enforcement efforts would also provide for more border security and strict entry and exit procedures for foreign visitors.

"If we go after the employers, if we make it very risky for them to hire illegal immigrants, make them share in the penalties, there will be less of an incentive to cross the border,” said Pat Reilly, U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman.

No match, no job
About 2.2 percent of all W-2 forms contain "no match” Social Security numbers or names.

"No match” notices are letters sent to U.S. businesses that have more than 11 people on their payroll whose name does not match the Social Security number the employee is using. The letters have routinely gone out over the years, but the discrepancies rarely were resolved.

In 2005, about 10.5 million "no match” letters were mailed out. This year, it has been estimated that 12.5 million letters will go out.

But this year, the "no match” letters, if they are mailed, will come with a twist: An insert from the Department of Homeland Security and a 90-day time-frame to either resolve the discrepancy or terminate the worker.

Upwards of 90 percent of "no match” discrepancies are believed to involve illegal immigrants using fraudulent documents to work in the United States.

"It's the magnet, no one disagrees with that. The reason we have so many illegal immigrants that come here is to get a job, to get hired,” Reilly said.

It is believed the letters ultimately will be used as investigative tools in future worksite enforcement investigations.

The initial mailing of the letters, scheduled to start last Friday, has been blocked until an Oct. 1 hearing.

Laws may hurt economy
The letters have been vilified by immigrant advocates, multiple industry sectors, labor unions and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who argue they will lead to widespread labor shortages, especially in agriculture, construction and food services. They argue it forces employers to act as immigration police. They argue immigrants will not leave the country but go underground where taxes are not paid and workers are routinely exploited. Ultimately they argue it will be devastating for the economy.

"You have to create a way for employers who need immigrant workers to get those workers, otherwise you are going to choke the economy,” said Tamar Jacoby, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a "free market” think tank.

While Jacoby says shoring up the Social Security Administration database is critical to national security and immigration reform, alone it might do more harm than good.

"The ‘no match' thing is a paradox,” she said.

"Meat packers are going to go out of business. Farms are going to move to Mexico. Even if you can pay better wages, it's going to be difficult to find enough American workers to fill all those jobs,” Jacoby said. "It will be devastating for the economy.”

At Maxpollo, a Hispanic-owned restaurant on S Harvey, Tex-Mex music is played a little above conversation level. The late-afternoon lunch crowd, primarily Hispanic workers, has thinned.

"All of our customers here are Hispanic,” said Luiz Hernandez, whose father Max Hernandez owns Maxpollo. "We are going to lose a lot of business.”

While restaurant employees are not illegal, he assumes many customers are.

"Most of them, maybe, are here illegally,” Hernandez said. "It's not fair because they're just trying to make a living here.”

David Castillo, 47, is executive director of the Greater Oklahoma City Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. About five years ago, the chamber conducted a survey discovering more than 250 new Hispanic-owned businesses within a 10-mile radius of the 4300 block of S Walker.

But this year, he's seeing economic depression, fear and ultimately anger.

"Some people have already closed up shop. Business has dropped tremendously,” Castillo said.

Even those here lawfully feel they are being targeted.

"It makes them feel like, ‘I'm not wanted here,'” he added.

Randy Terrill, R-Moore, co-sponsored Oklahoma's own immigration enforcement legislation — largely considered one of the toughest in the nation — set to go into effect Nov. 1.

For him, that's the point.

"We are talking about people who have entered this country illegally, and are now making demands for rights, specifically the right to pursue employment, for which they are not eligible,” Terrill said.

More laws coming
On Monday, the U.S. Congress returned to immigration, three months after it died on the Senate Floor. This time around, debates are narrower in scope and calmer in nature.

Democrats suggest giving conditional legal status to young illegal immigrants while Republicans consider overhauling the visa program for high-skilled foreign workers.

"If the administration doesn't have the resolve to do even this — reasonable enforcement of the law — I don't think the American public will have the appetite for anything else,” said Todd Gaziano, director for the center of judicial studies at the Heritage Foundation, also a conservative think tank.

"We need to have a breathing period, to actually engage in enforcement, then the American public might have the appetite for a temporary worker program,” he added.

Oklahoma's wide-ranging immigration law, House Bill 1804, goes into effect Nov. 1 for state and local government employers. It won't affect government contractors and subcontractors until July 1. It is largely considered one of the toughest immigration enforcement legislations in the country, requiring that employees check the immigration status of all new hires and contractors.

It also will open the door for U.S. citizens to file discrimination cases against employers if they have been fired and an illegal immigrant was subsequently hired to do the same job.


 


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From Linda, San Francisco: "They are stealing away our sovereignty and destroying our constitution under the guise of free trade and globalization." I will also add we have destruction in the name of national security, ie the 'war on terror.' Isn't it lovely when our leaders destory our nation & culture for the Oil War?
Concerned, Central Oklahoma - Sep 23, 2007 at 1:54 pm
In my opinion...we don't need any more immigrants in this country. Legal or illegal. Get the lazy off the bankroll of the welfare system and put them to work.
And start up the prison chain gangs.
How many people is ENOUGH in this country? Do we have to exceed the population of India or China? Will that still not enough? This country can't take in every single person on this earth simply because they want to come to the United States.
They don't bring anything with them except poverty.
What about natural resources? Forget it! They aren't bringing fresh air, more water, etc.....they suck up what we have left.
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 21, 2007 at 6:29 pm
I agree Ben with every thing you have stated.
Yes, a Civil War is indeed in order. The people in this country are going to have to stand up and fight to protect our lives, our rights, and the Constitution of this country because our government sure as heck isn't.
To watch our government allow ILLEGALS to have more rights than American citizens, they get away with breaking our laws and then award them with amnesty is appalling.
The American people are fed up that our government is selling us out.
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 21, 2007 at 6:20 pm
America wake up smell the roses our country has been sold to the highest bidder.
Ben, Silver Springs - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:07 pm
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Ben, Silver Springs - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:07 pm
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Ben, Silver Springs - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:06 pm
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Its funny as police what they do with most illegals they pull over. They let them go with even though they do not have licences to drive. However, let a blond white American get pulled over they go to jail. Double standard we need war with government if this don't change a war with out violence. stop paying taxes if possible, grow your own food, get off the china drugs ie clothing etc.
Ben, Silver Springs - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:06 pm
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Ben, Silver Springs - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:02 pm
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Welcome to American greed. What we need is civil war because congress is not with its constiuients any more. They vote and hide it under other justifications. Are populations in Maxed out 300million with a real load capacity 140,000,000. However, when all colapes the rich want have any access to their accounts. People like Bush who want a mexican for 8.00 hr are the problem in this country. When any American working should make nothing und 10.00 hour. In Europe age is also taken into account with salary. We are on a sinking global ship that will blow up one day.
Ben, Silver Springs - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:00 pm
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ILLEGAL ALIENS helped cause the attacks of 9/11. USA Today (3/6/07): "...the al-Qaeda hijackers who crashed American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon, obtained the paperwork needed for their Virginia driver's licenses by paying $100 to an illegal immigrant in a convenience store parking lot. Five other 9/11 terrorists also had licenses from Virginia, although none lived there. With the fraudulently obtained IDs (ILLEGAL), the hijackers were able to rent cars and board planes to carry out their murderous plot." And some people say we should be looking for terrorists not people here who just want to work. Please explain how you tell which is which?
Larry, Oklahoma City - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:57 am
in the article it said ""We know that people in the Latino community are really scared. You can see it, walking on the streets. People are selling their houses." In Oklahoma, it is against not just Oklahoma Law, but the State Constitution for any ILLEGAL to own property. Just another example of how ILLEGALS are NOT "honest, law-abiding" people.
Larry, Oklahoma City - Sep 21, 2007 at 12:33 am
Bush and the rest of the traitors in government want to erase our borders. They are stealing away our sovereignty and destroying our constitution under the guise of free trade and globalization.
This government isn't interested in securing our borders.They placte to the illegals in every aspect. The problem is, Ramos and Compean and those like them stand in the way simply by doing their jobs.
Who get punished? Not those illegally crossing our boarders, not those falsifying documents or stealing social security numbers, not the drug runners. But the AMERICAN citizen doing his job.
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Crackdown devestating to economy? I just don't see that. I personally don't believe this. Less people getting free medical care, less people getting welfare.....how does this hurt? Immigration reduces annual earnings for American born men by 3.7% or nearly $1700. In 2004, illegals held 6.3 million jobs out of 146 million jobs...that's 6.3 million jobs that someone who is laid off or has trouble finding employment can have. That's a job the welfare system should make those on welfare hold. Border ambulance services and hospitals are having to shut the doors because they have been unpaid or unreimbursed for over $200 million dollars in medical treatment given to the illegals. Not only is immigation a public-health hazard but it's an inconvenience to many people as well. Households headed by illegals imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 02' and paid only $16 billion in taxes, thus creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $104 billion or $2,700 per illegal household. There's unidea for solving the debt problems the U.S. has. Largest costs stem from Medicid ($2.5 billion), Uninsured treatment ($2.2 billion), Food assistance ($1.9 billion), Prison and court ($1.6 billion) and aid to schools ($1.4 billion). Many of the costs are due to their American born children, who become citizens because they are born here. More than 10 million illegals are current living in the U.S., the number grows by 700,00 per year. Look at the numbers, deportation will help the economy not devestate it.
Kelly, Moore - Sep 20, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Crackdown devestating to economy? I just don't see that. I personally don't believe this. Less people getting free medical care, less people getting welfare.....how does this hurt? Immigration reduces annual earnings for American born men by 3.7% or nearly $1700. In 2004, illegals held 6.3 million jobs out of 146 million jobs...that's 6.3 million jobs that someone who is laid off or has trouble finding employment can have. That's a job the welfare system should make those on welfare hold. Border ambulance services and hospitals are having to shut the doors because they have been unpaid or unreimbursed for over $200 million dollars in medical treatment given to the illegals. Not only is immigation a public-health hazard but it's an inconvenience to many people as well. Households headed by illegals imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 02' and paid only $16 billion in taxes, thus creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $104 billion or $2,700 per illegal household. There's unidea for solving the debt problems the U.S. has. Largest costs stem from Medicid ($2.5 billion), Uninsured treatment ($2.2 billion), Food assistance ($1.9 billion), Prison and court ($1.6 billion) and aid to schools ($1.4 billion). Many of the costs are due to their American born children, who become citizens because they are born here. More than 10 million illegals are current living in the U.S., the number grows by 700,00 per year. Look at the numbers, deportation will help the economy not devestate it.
Kelly, Moore - Sep 20, 2007 at 2:24 pm
For anyone who is against immigration please read the story of agents Ramos and Compean. These are two border patrol agents who tried to keep an ILLEGAL drug dealer from coming into America from Mexico. They are now sitting in prison and the drug dealer is free to wander around. He is suing the U.S. for $5 million and has a free pass to come and go between the borders. These guys were doing their job and wound up in jail.
Kelly, Moore - Sep 20, 2007 at 1:30 pm
That's alright Linda!
Looks like we both agree on this subject! LOL
Diane, Los Angeles - Sep 20, 2007 at 11:46 am
Hey! I just agreed with myself! Hahaha! I meant to say I agreed with YOU Diane!
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 11:45 am
I totally agree, Linda.
Mexico government publishes a guide to assist illegal border crossers. They don't want to deal with the poor in their country, they only want the rich and elite.
So, how do you make the Mexicans rich? One method, preferred by many in the Mexican government, is to export your poor laborers to America, where they can then send billions of dollars back to Mexico in the form of cash remittances to loved ones, while at the same time alleviating the strain on the welfare state and placing the strain instead on America via the American taxpayer thanks to our own government that shares an allegiance with mexico over the US citizen.
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 11:32 am
Linda the illegals and anchors could care less about the United States. Their alliance is with Mexico or haven't you noticed the way they honor the Mexican flag?
Yet Mexico will not help them except when they can help them stay here illegally and suck us DRY.
Diane, Los Angeles - Sep 20, 2007 at 11:10 am
Illegal immigrants think they are special and have the right to cut in front of those immigrants who come into this country the legal way.
They break the law coming over here then demand amnesty. They don't assimulate, they don't speak English, they don't show allegiance to this country except for all the freebies they can take.
If AnaMaria and Carlos are so sympathetic to the needs of Illegals, why aren't they down in mexico demanding changes for the mexican people instead of critisizing Americans that are against these invaders?!
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 10:13 am
Ana Marie is the classic Anchor Baby!
She is now even attacking God because her people are in danger of being DEPORTED.
Had they come in legal this would not even be an issue.
Illegal aliens kill 25 Americans every day!
I'm sure God is simply overjoyed with that fact Ana Marie.
Diane, Los Angeles - Sep 20, 2007 at 9:25 am
Of course this is racist. How could anybody think it is not? This is aimed at Mexicans which appear to be a race. I think the government should get out of everybody's lives. If not, settle for giving Hispanic people welfare if they need it, work visas if they need them & citizenship. Is this a red herring to get everybody's attention off the racism (war) in Iran?
E, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2007 6:05 PM So tell me E from Oklahoma City, just what is the percentage of illegal immigrants coming from mexico compared to illegal immigrants from other countries? If the shoe fits.
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 1:06 am
Not sure youare an American Diane, you are so negative about everything ,we sure don't need a lot of people like you here. So true God must really hate you for of the things your are saying. You are not perfect either. So get over your self.
Ana Maria, Yukon - Sep 19, 2007 3:39 PM

AnaMaria,
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 12:59 am
It's like she hate the illegals and they haven't done anything to her, hating without a cause.
Ana Maria, Yukon - Sep 19, 2007 4:34 PM

Are you insane? Illegals have affected every taxpayer in this country.
Not a one of them knows what a trash can is used for.
They lie, cheat, steal, abuse our laws. They overcrowd our schools, emergency rooms, jails and congest and trash our roadways.
We pick up the tab for their anchor babies along with feeding, educating, medicating and jailing.

OBEY THE IMMIGRATION LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY.



Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 12:52 am
"almost every family in the US got here illegally.
todd, norman - Sep 19, 2007 9:24 AM"

Did you go to school to eat your lunch? Go back and read American History.

As far as I'm concerned, there ought to be two choices after rounding up the illegals.
Every man and women can choose one of two buses.
1. The bus that takes you directly to the military of their choice. Join for 5 years and earn your citizenship.
2. The bus that heads back to mexico with all the anchor babies.
Linda, San Francisco - Sep 20, 2007 at 12:39 am

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