Immigration battle heats up
Immigration battle heats up

Where can I find the story? ............... You didn't just call me a name, did you?

you must have missed the story of the man who was illigal and had 3 out of his 4 kids serving in IRAQ! do YOU> I think not,,they almost deported him , you sick witch! guess what they looked retarded and had to try to get him a green card,,I support blacks who wont serve and will keep thier money from racist whites, who dont appreciate us and dont have fair laws,, I will also keep consumption down, to punish!

I just spoke to Specialist Tommy Thresher from our local Army recruiting office. He looked up the regulations. Only US citizens and LEGAL PERMANENT residents, who read and write English fluently, can join our military. He mentioned they do require proof, also.

allision did u support the iraq war as most amerians did? I did not ,I was correct, and on this issue most ameiricans are again wrong,sadly it will cost us again,whos gonna fight the fake wars? lots of illigals in iraq right now, good enuff to fight for ya but not to have citizenship? wierd stuff

allison, that is not reality, noncitizens serve in the military, so your opinion is obsolete.

Keith, I do believe that only citizens may serve in our Armed Forces. There IS an issue of loyalty otherwise.

again you are ill informed, caucasian is an outdated classification, it refers to people from regions or originating from regions, from europe to india, and range in hair , eye and skin color, from white to dark brown! either way that means most caucasians are brown, not white! Science has thus concluded that those terms are outdated. race is not scientific,it socially constructed , meaning made up, fiction and such,you can be racist towards others if you believe in the concept of race,and dont realize that thier is one race. Most Americans dont get that.jan you do make good points, mexican vets were discriminated against by law in this country, we dont have a good history of how we treat all people, so forgive me if i dont trust our methods , are our beliefs. ok

And before you call me on it I should say, Caucasian, Asian and Negro (not politically correct but I would hate to be called on not attributing the proper terminology to the races). The race is defined by genetic markers and physical characteristics which do not include skin tone. Skin tone is not agreed upon to be a racial feature although most blacks do have black skin there are some that are lilly white and there are some Caucasians that are darker than some black people that I know. There are also certain diseases which cause people to lose pigment in their skin like vitiligo and albinoism and those can be seen in many races, cultures and ethnicities. That is why skin tone is no longer used to 100% identify varying races. Mexicans are Caucasians so how can I be racially inflammatory against a piece of my race? It is about right and wrong and the right way is the ONLY way to maintain any kind of civil obedience and order.

None of this is about race Keith, last time I checked, Middle Eastern nor Hispanic were a race. Black, White, Asian and that's about it. There are cultures, there are ethnicities and that's about it. So, if you know so much please stop telling us that we're racist. We aren't racist, but we are realistic and the country cannot continue to support the illegal aliens and their "families".

The truth hurts, race card is a real reason to why you feel the way you do. Not loving others as you love yourselves is also. I have great reasons to why we should enforce our laws , I am not for open borders. I just do not agree with how the issues is conflated and how we are going about it. The simple fact is that if you are married to an american , or have an american relative , or were born here you are an American. The only thing that makes Us ALL Americans is that we were born here. Also if you serve in military and or have family members serving , you should be automatically made an American. JUst look at history, blacks were not allowed to vote! why cause of the race card, was it right ,NO! America will again figure it out, I just wish we did not have to get a black eye, doing things in an unjust unfair and hypocritical uneven way. IF you want the solutions to the problem , let someone with no denial write the laws. The Bile and what jesus taught instruct me and I dont think its right to punish Americans and children ,by sending their families back to Mexico , in many cases they dont speak spanish and or cant survive or wont have the life they can here. Stop further immigration by all means , but to take away Americans rights is just like saying that only whites have rights, as it has been for too long in America. I know to much, you cant fool me. There are good reasons to limit lots of activities in America, but you dont do it by destroying the true intent of America. WE have overcame a lot in this country and eventally we will get it fixed, with good leadership. unfortunatly we keep electing rednecks.

Keith, families don't have to be broken up. Any responsible and loving parent would take their children wherever they were going to live.

as always,the race card,the bible or insults.if you dont have a good reason that covers all sides of the debate of why its ok to break the law then let it go.

rhetoric, typo,lol

mark, you are amuzing. your words ring hollow , your rethoric is empty and your logic nonexistent.And Frankly you make me laugh. Again Scapegoating wont solve our problems, isnt that what we are trying to do? Makes a rational person like myself question your motives, I think its bigotry 101, no more no less. Oklahoma is only going to hurt herself, remeber Oklahoma was set aside for native americans, so if you think about it , the law was broken and written in a bad spirit.You can enforce the law , without breaking up families , like our ansestors did to Indians, jews, slaves, and now mexican, tearing children from thier families, satan would be proud of us.so sick, I pray jesus sends all of you straight to hell, were you belong, and trust me he will!

Quote: "This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this."

-- Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy on the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

1. The Federal Immigration Reform Act of 1986 made employing undocumented workers illegal, but the federal government regularly underfunded enforcement. So US citizens willing to break the law by hiring undocumented workers profited from illegal activities.
2. The undocumented people hired by the US citizens also broke the law.
3. Why does this law only choose to punish those assisting one group of "law breakers"?
4. Those who are afraid the country may change seem to prefer focusing on half of the people who broke the law, but fail to hold the other half accountable.
5. The fears written in the paragraphs below mirror things written about any group of aliens that has ever entered the country: as a group they are more criminal than the rest of the country; they spawn and encourage illegal activity; their cultural difference is disturbing; the only way to manage them is to assure swift and severe consequences for unpermitted acts. These ideas are no more true for the current group than they were for the Germans, Italians, Irish, and other groups previously targeted.
6. Unless an author can cite a reliable source for the reported numbers, the numbers reported are merely opinions, not facts.
7. A meaningful lesson from the Bible charges Christians with the responsibility to stand up for the poor, the widowed, the orphaned, and the alien.
8. Civil disobedience has a long, honored history in our country - people who have stood up for their beliefs and were willing to go to jail for them have gained our national respect: Thoreau, Parks and King, to name a few.
9. Human beings have the ability to rationalize any behavior - and the ultimate evil results when we choose to look at evil and call it good.
10. Christ taught us to discern the value of the tree by looking at its fruit. The fruit of this law is: divided families; increased social intolerance; criminalization of compassion - punishing those who see a "human being" where others choose only to see a "criminal."
11. The magnificence of the first amendment is that anyone can say what they believe and still be an American - the framers of the Constitution believed unrestricted political dialog insured the nation's well-being.
12. Our nation learned during the Viet Nam War that our soldiers were hurt by the dishonor heaped on them by protesters who did not differentiate between the war they hated and the soldiers fighting in the war.
13. Although we learned that lesson, and all sides now make efforts to recognize the soldiers are patriots serving their country, some have reinterpreted the lesson to require nothing short of total agreement with their own "patriotic" ideal - but that is not an American ideal - that is an ideal of a dictatorship, a totalitarian regime, or fascist state.
14. To live up to our national heritage, we must value and respect each other's opinions.
15. Those of us who are Christian must also value and respect the teachings of our leader.
16. When the two conflict, the most patriotic thing to do is to point that out - by civil disobedience, if necessary.
17. The willingness to risk jail for important truths represents part of what made this nation great.
18. Failure to respect each other, unwillingness to enter into social dialog, choosing to resort to name calling, and refusal to try to see the other's side, all reflect the unpatriotic actions tearing this nation apart.
19. We can continue to protect the heritage we were given, or we can choose to let is slip away by belittling those who don't agree with us.
20. Ultimately, THAT fundamental choice decides the national legacy our children and grandchildren will receive.

Hart-Celler Act hearings 1965 Quote: Senate immigration subcommittee chairman Edward Kennedy (D-MA.) reassured his colleagues and the nation with the following: "First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think." Sen. Kennedy concluded by saying, "The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)

Wow, the Internet and a computer in the hands of some people is a very dangerous thing. Oh and nice thoughtful post Dave but I would think that the illegals entering is higher than 500k.

Years ago everyone wanted population control in the US.Now we allow in around 2,000,000 legal immigrants a year plus their extended families,(Mother,Father,Sister,Brother and their children.)That adds millions more.Then you have the 12,000,000 illegal Aliens that Congress wants to give Amnesty to.If that's granted,then you have their extended families,which will add millions more.Then you have the 500,000 that still cross our southern border illegally each year.The US current population is 300,000,000,not to long ago we exported our surplus food,now we import half.Some studies show the US population at 450,000,000 by the year 2050.Has anyone ask their Congressman and Senators what quality of life our Children and Grand Children will have? Social Security,in 1996 the Social Security Administration signed an agreement with Mexico that will give Social Security payments to the 12 million illegal aliens once they are granted amnesty, total cost over 50 billion dollars.This type information is at both the FAIR and the Heritage Foundation Web sites.Add the billions the American tax payer pays for illegal aliens free medical care,food stamps,rent assistance,translators at schools and we have a ticking time bomb.Amnesty for 12 million illegal aliens and endless immigration is not the answer.I encourage everyone to write their Congressman and Senators and ask them what the total cost to the American tax payer will be if they grant amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens,after all you and I and our children will foot the bill for their decision! "

Keith,what other laws do you feel it's OK to break,just because you don't agree with them?

keith....not verry bright at three a.m are you,do you even read what you write?no kidding there are black gangs, duh.but the point is you stand up for illegals and since it is known that the mexican 13 rapist and murders cross illegaly into our borders everyday and you aprove of them.i am starting to think maybe i was right.i bet you did march in may.dude you are an air head.every thing you write is pure bull cr@p.the truth is your brain is a wmd.dumba$$.your easy lol.

mark.. its called not all people are nice 101 dipshit~~!!

mark.. its called not all people are nice 101 dipshit~~!!

mark i bet you still believe that iraq had wmds, and that saddam attacked us on 911,your the type thats dumb as hell, not I.