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Capitol Hill feels effect of HB 1804
Capitol Hill feels effect of HB 1804

By Jesse Olivarez    Comments Comment on this article31
Published: December 11, 2007

Ana Lopez knows how tough it is to run a small business. For four years, she has weathered the ups and downs of operating her screen printing and graphics shop in Oklahoma City's Capitol Hill district.

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Armando Lopez, co-owner of Capitol Hill Graffix, works on shirts ordered by a customer. Lopez and other business owners in the Capitol Hill district are concerned about the decrease in customers they have seen over the last two months. BY JIM BECKEL, THE OKLAHOMAN
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Making a profit, she said, got much harder after House Bill 1804 went into effect Nov. 1.

Lopez said her shop is one of several businesses in the Capitol Hill area to be adversely affected by HB 1804, a law making it illegal to harbor, conceal or transport illegal immigrants and barring illegal immigrants from getting driver's licenses and public services.

In the Capitol Hill area, which has experienced a rebirth in recent years, business owners are concerned.

Exodus from state
Felix Perretti, chairman of the Greater Oklahoma City Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, said Hispanics — both legal and illegal — are leaving the state in large numbers.

For proof, he looks no further than the business logs at his store, Muebleria La Popular Furniture, 216 SW 29.

Before the law went into effect, Perretti estimates more than 60 percent of his clientele was Hispanic. Perretti said he has lost 40 to 50 percent of his Hispanic customers since September.

Although he is concerned for the loss of business, Perretti said he is even more troubled by the comments many immigrants have shared with him.

"They tell me they feel threatened by 1804,” he said. "Even the documented ones feel threatened. They feel they don't want immigrants in Oklahoma.”

While the exact number of people who have left Oklahoma is unclear, organizations across the state are seeing the exodus.

Mike Seney, senior vice president of operations for the state chamber, said skilled labor workers have been leaving the state in large numbers since mid-October.

Seney said employers across the state have reported they are having trouble filling jobs at nurseries, hotels, construction sites and restaurants, among others.

"We are in a skilled worker shortage,” he said. "Anything that is done that exacerbates that doesn't help the problem.”

Oklahoma's unemployment rate, 4.2 percent, means there is a very small pool of skilled workers available to fill the jobs, Seney said.

The smaller labor pool has started to affect smaller businesses such as Lopez's screen printing and graphics shop, which makes uniforms for businesses in the manufacturing and construction fields, she said. Those businesses, she said, have started to place smaller orders because their work crews have shrunk.

The smaller work orders have reduced Lopez's profits by 20 to 25 percent, she said. Although her business is surviving, Lopez said she has seen other shops in the Capitol Hill area close their doors in the past few weeks.

She said she hopes the law will not reverse the revival the district has experienced during the past several years.

"I grew up near here,” she said. "I remember how this area was ... there was nothing down here. I don't want it to go back to what it was.”

‘Taking a lot of people's dreams'
Some Capitol Hill residents said the law's most harmful effects have been to the community itself.

Rosie Esparza runs Mexico Transfers Inc., a money changing business near SW 25 and Robinson Avenue. Locals still come in to send money to Mexico or their native country, but their demeanor has changed, Esparza said.

She said the law seems to have drained some of the life out of the district.

"They used to come in here joking and smiling,” she said. "Now they come in and they're very serious. They don't talk as much. They seem afraid.”

Henri Dodd, owner of Love Street World Outreach, a clothing store and ministry in the Capitol Hill area, said a significantly smaller number of people come through the doors these days.

As recently as October, Dodd said busy days brought more than 25 people into her store to buy clothing or just to visit. Now, five people counts as a busy day, she said.

Maria, 17, a senior at U.S. Grant High School who refused to give her last name, said she comes to the district regularly to shop for groceries and clothes.

Maria said she immigrated with her family to Oklahoma from Mexico 14 years ago and went through the naturalization process to gain her citizenship.

She has watched many of her family's friends and neighbors leave and return to their native countries out of fear of being deported, she said.

Among those that left are friends who, like her, immigrated to the United States as young children and have no memories of their native countries.

For the ones who stayed behind, the future remains uncertain, she said.

"This law is taking a lot of people's dreams,” she said. "A lot of people that are in high school right now are the best in their class, but they're illegal. They're trying to do what they can, but they probably won't be able to continue their education because of where they were born. It's not fair.”

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Mr. Jesse Olivarez: Your whining about criminals, all illegal aliens are criminals, getting run out of the state is pathetic. In case you hadn't noticed, the vast majority of us Oklahomans could care less if this is bad for the illegal aliens and we care even less for those who aid these criminals. So why don’t you do your job and report on issues that we really care about.
Kevin, Yukon - Dec 16, 2007 at 9:09 am
That old saying, I didn't stand up for them & then they came for me, probably applies to this situation. It appears there is more & more judgement of others and less compassion since 911. I don't think they should send any Mexicans back to Mexico. That is garbage that the parents were setting the kids up to fail. How? By trying to give them a good life? Boy, that is bad thing to do. Oklahoma ranks in the top ten for so many negative things, throwing the Mexicans out seems to demonstrate how mentally ill so many in the state are.
Southern Rebel, Oklahoma City - Dec 15, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Well what do you know. A Hispanic writer trying to put the law in a false light. Surely Jesse isn't biased at all. yeah right.

Oklahoma will see an increase in skilled laborers when these traitor business begin to pay a decent wage. I love how these sympathizers act like Oklahoma is going into a nuclear winter because illegals are leaving our state. LMAO Give it up!
Kent, Glendale - Dec 13, 2007 at 3:50 pm
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Kent, Glendale - Dec 13, 2007 at 3:48 pm
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Well what do you know. A Hispanic writer trying to put the law in a false light. Surely Jesse isn't biased at all. yeah right.

Oklahoma will see an increase in skilled laborers when these traitor business begin to pay a decent wage. I love how these sympathizers act like Oklahoma is going into a nuclear winter because illegals are leaving our state. LMAO Give it up!
Kent, Glendale - Dec 13, 2007 at 3:47 pm
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us readers must be stupid, we keep posting on their internet site and buying their papers. stupid is as stupid does.
JH, deep red creek - Dec 11, 2007 at 7:01 pm
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give it up Harv, The white and the black folks, as well as legal hispanics are all on the same page on this one. Illegals get out!!!!!
Rufus, spencer - Dec 11, 2007 at 6:12 pm
hey randy.. i mean jason edmond, we sacked chicks all night. went boozin...you never showed up? whats up? still working on that sweet moontan?
Randy, Moore - Dec 11, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I'm sooooooooo sad for the poor ILLEGAL's. Maybe they should stay home and demand that thier own country help them!!! Oh wait, mexico, honduras, el salvidor, ect, ect. do not do anything for thier own people. It is not bigotry to want people to do the right thing and come here LEGALLY!!!
david, richmond hill - Dec 11, 2007 at 5:14 pm
No, nocona, it's global warming!
J.T.(I), Norman - Dec 11, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Rufus, is your fat mouth, tongue, fingers stuck from the ice? Where is your response. You must be having a lot of fun persecuting the illegals. Finally, at this point of your fat, lazy, good for nothing life you have one to make fun of and persecute. Just wait, when all the illegals are gone everyone can concentrate on hating you and your people. They say tomorrow never comes, but it may be happening today!??
Harvey, Oklahoma City - Dec 11, 2007 at 4:13 pm
Sara, you may have intended to give me a tongue lashing, but I accept it and applaud you if that is the truth. I am a reasonable person and my opinions can change. It sounds as if your employees are fortunate to have you as the boss. Thank you for sharing.
Harvey, Oklahoma City - Dec 11, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Dec 11, 2007 at 3:59 pm
God has punished Oklahoma for all it's bigotry, racism and hate. This ice storm is only the begining. Oklahoma will pay financially for this ugly racist law.
nocona, santa fe - Dec 11, 2007 at 3:49 pm
todd from Norman, my electricity never went out. Speaking of wiring, I think some shrink needs to check the wiring in your noggin. There seems to be more than a few loose connections up there...
Jason, Edmond - Dec 11, 2007 at 3:47 pm
I think h b 1804 is a horrible bill,they should throw it out. It hurts to many people.
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Dec 11, 2007 at 3:29 pm
i take all my advice from lawn jockeys.... lmao
Randy, Moore - Dec 11, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Harvey.. For your information, I have a landscaping business. In the ten years that I have had my business, never once have I hired an illegal, yes, I know they are legal, because they have to furnish a certified birth certificate before I hire them. I started out with three people, I now employ eight people. I have not had to hire any new employees in the past five years. I pay my people well. My employees get a percentage of what I make. My people have been out working since the ice storm hit. They are working twelve hour shifts. So, come off that old crap that there is no one to do the tree trimming but the illegal criminals. Oh, I also have a cousin in the landscaping business. He has twelve legal employees working for him.
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Dec 11, 2007 at 2:56 pm
ohhh no.. the racists got there electricity back.
Randy, Moore - Dec 11, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Rufus, can you even bend over and tie your shoes? I suspect that you have to sit down to use the restroom HA! HA! HA!
Harvey, Oklahoma City - Dec 11, 2007 at 2:21 pm
The story quotes a "Maria": "She has watched many of her family's friends and neighbors leave and return to their native countries out of fear of being deported, she said."_______And the problem is....what? If a drug dealer suddenly stops dealing drugs out of "fear" of being arrested under the provisions of a new, tougher law isn't that a good thing?
Jason, Edmond - Dec 11, 2007 at 1:47 pm
First of all, what part of ILLEGAL doesn't everyone get? I am not a racist person and I have no problem with any nationality coming to the USA, but you need to get yourself LEGAL. I am sick and tired of hearing what this new bill has done to so many families, the ILLEGAL immigrants had to know that this day would eventually come. My problem is this, they want to come to my country, waving their flag and demanding my rights, and their getting assistance from our government and they still act like their victims. If my country is treating you so badly, maybe you should go ask YOUR GOVERNMENT to help you with everything your DEMANDING from mine. If I was to break the law I would be in jail &/or fined, why should they be treated any differently. I understand they are looking for a better life, they just need to do it LEGALLY!!!
As far as this Bill hurting Oklahoma, it may effect the businesses that cater to the Hispanic community, but other than that I feel like we should save money, since we don't have the extra expense of paying these families welfare benefits and college tution.
I hope other states pass similiar laws.


stephanie, mustang - Dec 11, 2007 at 1:22 pm
This bill is going to hurt Oklahoma's economy in the long-term. I am surprised that the bible-belt citizens of this test have been okay with this bill. What happened to being compassionate Christians?
Someone told me that Okies would be perfectly fine if the illegal immigrants were German or English or any other white-skin native. I am starting to believe this.
Good luck to all the business owners of the "Sooner State".
S, Norman - Dec 11, 2007 at 12:54 pm
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b, i've been crying all morning myself !! lol I guess they shouldn't have put all their eggs in one basket.
Jimmy, Sandy Shores - Dec 11, 2007 at 11:52 am
Let me see if I have this right......these people set up business based on a customers that are illegally in this country and now that we are enforcing what should have been enforced all along, the business is suffering.....hold on while I go get my tissue.
Philip, Oklahoma City - Dec 11, 2007 at 11:12 am

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