Arena vote is about ‘the show'
Arena vote is about ‘the show'

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By Bryan Dean
Published: December 23, 2007

Roy Williams looks at the upcoming vote for a temporary 1-cent sales tax to pay for Ford Center improvements differently from MAPS or any other vote the city has seen recently.

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Williams, president of the Greater Oklahoma City Chamber of Commerce, said those votes were about setting the stage. This one is about putting on the show.

All the details haven't been worked out, but the city expects a tax lasting about a year will raise about $100 million for Ford Center improvements. The tax would kick in the day after the 1-cent MAPS for Kids sales tax expires, meaning the sales tax rate would remain the same.

The city's sales tax election will come a month before NBA owners vote on an application by the Seattle SuperSonics to relocate to Oklahoma City.

Williams said voters should look at the proposal as a way to capitalize on the investment they've made in the city through the Metropolitan Area Projects vote and its sequel, MAPS for Kids.

"This is why you do these things — to position your city so that when opportunities like this come along, you can get them,” he said. "This is why we've done all this. This is why we've built all this infrastructure.”

There are tangible benefits. The chamber estimates the Hornets had an economic impact of $66 million the first year the team played the majority of its games at the Ford Center.

"We did not do a study on the second year, but you could anticipate things were probably very similar,” Williams said.

That money went to retail expenditures, salaries for Hornets employees, restaurants, hotels, office rental and anything else visitors or the team paid for while they were here.

But there are other benefits, too, many of which can't be measured.

Team may help image
Mayor Mick Cornett said getting an NBA franchise raises the city's status in the eyes of employers, tourists and anyone who follows sports.

"On a very superficial level, what cities your team plays in the world of sports reflects on your status as a community,” Cornett said. "If our companies are trying to recruit talent from New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Boston, it helps if our sports teams are playing teams from those communities.”

City leaders believe an NBA franchise would be a major step toward making Oklahoma City more than it has ever been.

Ask someone from another part of the country what they think of Oklahoma City, and you might not get much of an answer. The chamber has been asking that question, and they hope the NBA can be part of changing the answers they have heard.

"In study after study and poll after poll we do, we continually see a lack of image about Oklahoma City,” Williams said. "It's not a bad image, they just don't know who we are.”

It's not just about what other people think of Oklahoma City. Williams said it's also about what Oklahoma City residents think of themselves.

He saw pride in city residents as the Hornets brought Oklahoma City to a national stage that had nothing to do with cowboys or tornadoes or a terrorist attack.

"All of a sudden people realized we are a much bigger city than we think,” Williams said.

Cornett, an avid sports fan who missed only a few of the Hornets' home games in Oklahoma City, said the team also helped bring the city together.

"It was fun to have a team that was ours,” Cornett said. "It was the most inclusive thing we ever had in this community. Everybody felt like they were a part of that franchise, and we can bring that back.”

Williams is confident voters will support the sales tax. He said getting an NBA franchise, while not the end goal of MAPS, was a possible outcome that many quietly dreamed about.

They were quiet to avoid being called crazy.

Jill Adler of Oklahoma City said she was a Hornets fan and she would love to see the Seattle SuperSonics move to the city permanently.

She was one of those quiet dreamers who hoped the Ford Center could lead to an NBA franchise. Her son thought she was nuts. He doesn't now.

"We were driving past the arena when it was under construction, and I looked over and said ‘Do you ever think we could get an NBA team?'” Adler said. "He laughed at me and said, ‘No we aren't getting an NBA team.' I'm already talking to all my friends and telling them they need to go vote.”


 


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I've been posting a lot on this story. I just wanted to let everyone know that I have never met any of our civic leaders, elected or city employees. Nor have I met any of the Sonics investors, to the best of my knowledge. --John Hite
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 26, 2007 at 6:51 pm
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One of OKC's great accomplishments has been to prepay for new assets/amenities to make this city great. I was born in OKC almost 60 years ago & there are more fun things to do now than anytime in my lifetime. One of the benefits of having a prepaid arena is that our ticket prices won't necessarily be as expensive as other cities who have to include amortizing & repaying for their arenas unpaid debt. Even paying another $100 million to enhance our Ford Center to make it competitive with the best of other NBA arenas, is really a bargain compared to what other cities have to pay for their arenas -- especially if the interest on their bonds are included. Just be very glad that the consortium of Oklahoma investors in the Sonics are already great contributors to our city. The proposal to renovate the Ford Center to make it one of the better NBA venues will extend our "temporary" sales tax beyond December, if we voters agree. Even with the MAPS tax, people in 58% of the nation's top 51 cities pay more state & local taxes than we do. --- http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/taxesbycity2005/index.html --- Hopefully, if we vote yes, the NBA will approve the Sonics moving here & Oklahoma City will be internationally famous for something besides tornadoes, cowboys & an infamous bombing. LET'S BUILD THIS CITY ON INNOVATION AND CREATIVENESS!!! --- John Hite
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 26, 2007 at 6:47 pm
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I hope everyone had a VERY Merry Christmas (or Happy Holidays for non-Christians).
A great source of info on the Crosstown replacement project which I dub the "Riverside Freeway" is on Wikipedia: --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_Crosstown ---
Oklahoma City's own website --- http://www.okc.gov/planning/coretoshore/background.html --- states that the new replacement expressway is on track to completion in 2012. The "Core to Shore" project will revamp some of the area about which Don and his wife were concerned, if public and private funding can be allocated.
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 25, 2007 at 12:08 pm
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I'm pretty sure the upgrades Mayor Cornett is talking about are designed to show the NBA that we are willling to support a team, but they sound like they're primarily designed to improve my experience as a fan and visitor to the Ford Center, not to pad the pocketbook of the team owners. If we were talking about doubling the number of seats, that might be the case, but fixing up the bathrooms, the scoreboard, the locker rooms and the concourses aren't going to make a penny for the owners. Making a nicer team store and nicer restaurants are going to be enjoyed as much by the fans as they will make more money for the owner. I think the upgrades are designed to send a message to the NBA, but they're also upgrades that the Ford Center has needed since the day it was built. I go to concerts and other sporting events there, and it will enhance all of those experiences. I don't think the Ford Center is the only thing in downtown OKC that needs to be improved, but it's now that an NBA team is a possibility, and so improving it now will go a long ways towards making Oklahoma City a city on the rise. And, the downtown traffic having an NBA team will generate will help the downtown restaurants and businesses that will make the downtown area a more vibrant place, and hence more attractive to visitors....who will then spend their money downtown.
Jill, www.okcthunderfans.com - Dec 24, 2007 at 4:09 pm
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Don, I agree the Capitol Hill area still looks like it did 50 years ago, However, the fairgrounds has a lot of new buildings, especially in the animal areas which attracts all kinds of horse shows to our city. And when our "Riverside Freeway" is finished, the Crosstown Expressway will come down & be replaced with what I hope is a beautiful boulevard. Right now there are a lot of industrial buildings paralleling the Crosstown, so we may have to spend public money to help relocate these businesses. The land purchased for the new highway did displace many old riverside homes, but they were, for the most part, in pretty bad shape, in my opinion.
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 24, 2007 at 12:22 pm
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Paul - about the slow replacement of the Crosstown Expressway, there were rumors that congressional funding was withheld due to a certain OKC US representative being blackballed by his fellow Republican reps for opposing so much of their pork barrel spending. We now have a new representative, and I think adequate funding has resumed & we are seeing progress on our "Riverside Freeway".
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 24, 2007 at 12:03 pm
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http://www.ticketsnow.com/TicketsList.aspx?PID=524396
Click on this link for tickets to the Sonics. No doubt the prices will go way down when they get here.Lots of $10.00 tickets Ha Ha! I think many are missing thr point, it's not that we don't want OKC to be a fine city but we need to be more than a glitterdome. Pull off the decorated lid and see whats underneath. MAPS is for all the people with improvements for schools etc. Not for a private profit making business. If thats the case then I would like for an additional sales tax to fund for me the finest restaurant and hotel in the USA so I may make a lot of money. Thats not going to happen for me or anyone else. A while back my wife and I took a nostalgic trip around the city where we grew up many years ago. After going from SW 29th. to NW 10th and around the downtown area, I looked over at her and she she had tears in her eyes. She said " It's a shame that this city has not done much since the 1950's. for most of the city". Well Cale just study the history of this area and many other places. It's all been said before and an NBA Franchise is not going to solve the cities or the peoples problems. But it will, with your help, make the rich get richer. I'll say no more here but be sure I will cast my ballot against.
DON, oklahoma city - Dec 24, 2007 at 11:30 am
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Growing up in OKC 50+ years ago, we had only a 2% state sales tax and no local sales tax. I was amazed when traveling to New York or LA to have to pay an 8% tax. But Oklahoma City never had any infrastructure -- no arenas, no convention center, no real amenities that would attract anyone to our city.

But now, with some creative investments in our city, we now have many beautiful new facilities, new schools and new recreation areas. These are the things that attract people to a city and make them want to live here and bring up families here. We still pay less than about 3/5 of the cities in a 51 city CNN/Money survey -- and we have lot of great amenities.
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 24, 2007 at 11:24 am
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Paul,

If you lived here you would know that being a federal highway I-40 that is because if you knew that you would understand that it is a federal project, not just a city project. So it takes a longer time to plan, purchase and move citizens, to do the ground work and now we can see that all the planning and work is being seen.
What you fail to understand about OKC is that we believe in our city and changing the image from the thought that we are just a sub par place to live to a world class city. If you look at everything that is happening from the recent Head of OKC a "world class rowing event" that got world attention and was talked about in how great it was from were OKC was before to now.
And btw, if you live in Yukon for your information you will be paying on this tax just because alot of the growth areas in Yukon might say Yukon but it is actually OKC. So no matter what you think those of us who don't mind paying improvements will thank you for you contribution. Oh and a side note if you are talking about all this money did you even know that BOK Arena in Tulsa is $183 million and it is smaller.
Michael, Yukon - Dec 24, 2007 at 8:19 am
If I don't live here, then how do I know about the serious deficiencies like the crosstown..or the fact that I can bring to light places like the abandoned car dealerships in what you consider downtown..or the unfinished furniture place over by Home Depot??
paul, yukon - Dec 24, 2007 at 7:55 am
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Let's lose the "superior Seattle" attitude Paul. Plus, we are not "you people" in Oklahoma. You obviously don't live here.
Margaret, Holdenville - Dec 24, 2007 at 7:48 am
Touchy, touchy, touchy..is my realism too startling for you??
paul, yukon - Dec 24, 2007 at 7:14 am
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What's it to you, Paul. Just keep your sales tax money in Yukon. Pretty simple. This new tax won't cost you a dime.
Margaret, Holdenville - Dec 24, 2007 at 7:06 am
If raising 100 million is so easy, and it's being in raised in the interest of making OKC in general a better place to live, and since so many people are for it, why wasn't 100 million raised years ago for the new crosstown expressway? Or is that question a bit too optimistic?? After all, you people are so keyed up to improve things, what better place to start than to make sure the highways you and your loved ones travel on daily are safe and won't collapse?? That would make nice national headlines, having the crosstown collapse as everybody was headed to the pre paid arena for an NBA game...that'll give you the national attention you so crave..I knew from the minute I arrived in this state that priorities were skewed....
paul, yukon - Dec 24, 2007 at 6:52 am
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Todays Daily Oklahoman has an article about how OKC will have to invest 100 million dollars to bring the "pre-paid" arena up to speed. So much for having a great ready to go arena, huh??
paul, yukon - Dec 24, 2007 at 6:07 am
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The "best money you've ever spent" should be put toward the problems with Oklahoma, not to entice a team into considering looking at OKC as a place to set up shop....the priorities of this state (and it's populace) are typical of the mind set with a lot of people today...
paul, yukon - Dec 24, 2007 at 5:50 am
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I didn't realize that rose colored glasses were so popular in Oklahoma. If bringing in an NBA team means such a windfall for a city, I'm surprised not every city in the country is clamoring to get their hands on a team, building the biggest and best arenas that taxpayer money can buy, and even offering to pay the players salaries, just to get them in "their" town. I'd be more concerned over why the crosstown expressway has this slight problem with big holes opening up in it, and why progress is so slow in getting that new route started, and completed. I'd be more concerned with the worst bridges in the country and why the standard of living is so bad here.....or will all those things fix themselves once the NBA comes to town??
paul, yukon - Dec 24, 2007 at 5:48 am
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This will be the best money we've ever spent. This will complete our arena and make it "among the top tier arenas in the NBA" at a fraction of the cost that other cities have paid. Getting an NBA team is just one side benefit of that. Chooding to invest in our city through the use of a one cent sales tax continues to return huge benefits.
Bug, Tulsa - Dec 23, 2007 at 9:53 pm
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I am about fed up with being asked to provide corporate welfare for wealthy people. The Gaylord family did not need my tax money to build the Bass Pro store in Bricktown, and Clay Bennet does not need my help to relocate his team to Oklahoma City. Didn't he already make enough money from selling the naming rights to the Bricktown Ballpark after we taxpayers paid to have that built? Don't we have more serious problems needing attention, such as replacing an aging infrastructure, or heaven forbid, providing viable social services that our last Republican governor devastated?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Dec 23, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Correction: I checked my credit card statement and I paid $125 for season tickets to OU women's basketball.
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 23, 2007 at 7:52 pm
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Hey Don, when you go to Dallas and rent that car, who's money are you spending on the cowboy's stadium? That's right, your money that you made in OKC. Guess what, you still spend it. A lot of you people are the same ones that go to any major city and bitch about the prices of things there but you still go to those cities. Hotel and motel taxes are paid for the most part by out of town and out of state people. Just like we do when we go to NY. The amount of money that an NBA team will bring to the city just from the restaurant business is huge. We sit at the crossroads of two major interstate highways. If only a handful of those people opt to stay in OKC for only one night, the money they spend here will be significant. It doesn't matter if you don't want to go to the games or even work in Bricktown, the bleedover from an NBA franchise will impact the whole city positively. More employees in Bricktown means more cars sold in the city. The more cars sold in the city, the more television sets sold in the city. The mort television sets sold in the city, the more bait is sold in bait shops. Get it? It's economics! How much money did the Big 12 tournament make OKC? Estimates have it at about 100 million. How much money would OKC have made that weekend without it? It doesn't matter if you went to the tournament or not, somewhere you probably benefited financially from that tournament. You know, I was raised in the panhandle and sometimes those people wonder how I can stand to live in THE CITY. They can't imagine paying to park anywhere and in the panhandle you can rent a room for $25 a night. They come here though. They come here and pay $100 a night to sleep and pay to park and when they go back home, they bitch about how much money they left in OKC. I say, "thanks guys."
Cale, oklahoma city - Dec 23, 2007 at 7:07 pm
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Don..these hicks in this state will believe anything they're told...it's only a temporary tax, the checks in the mail, etc. Anything to take their minds off the sorry shape this state is in...."we're dirt poor and suck at nearly everything, but we've got an NBA team"....too bad most of them won't be able to afford tickets for a game....
paul, yukon - Dec 23, 2007 12:13 PM

Just thought I might remind you of your words. I am done. Just throwing my opinion out there. Have a nice life, hopefully here in Oklahoma. We like your tax dollars. LOL.
tommy, purcell - Dec 23, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Wears out??? At 5 years old?? Merry Christmas to you as well John......
paul, yukon - Dec 23, 2007 at 5:56 pm
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Merry Christmas, Paul. Thank goodness I vote in OKC. We will still prepay for MAPS improvements, if we voters determine the necessity. Everything wears out. Once in a while, we have to replace or revamp our cars, our homes and certainly most of our furnishings. The same applies to our public buildings. We each have a chance to make a difference in the world. A professional bb team in OKC is something, even if temporary, will make a big difference to me and many other citizens of OKC. I am certainly appreciative of all the efforts of those who brought the Hornets here. It was only temporary--but it did make a difference. Just like everything we do, say and WRITE can make a positive or negative difference in this life and the next. God bless you and your family this Christmas -- or this holiday season, if you're not Christian.
John, Oklahoma City - Dec 23, 2007 at 5:49 pm
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Tommy...you sure have a lot of names for yourself that nobody else in this forum have thought to call you....why is that anyway?? Is what you've written your own perception of the person you are and the people who are around you??
paul, yukon - Dec 23, 2007 at 5:47 pm
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