My husbands license expires march 15.... we have tried everything we can think of and no luck. he was born in CA. so due to budget cuts, two people work in the office at vital records and it could take six months to receive a copy of his birth certificate. This new law is ridiculous. We have his current drivers license, marriage certificate and social security card none of wich are of any use due to the new law. We have been trying for awhile to get the birth certificate. not so easy when your adopted.

Said perfectly, Jess. Complaints about illegals and complaints when we do something about it. There is no magic wand that we can waive over Oklahoma and make the illegals disappear without interrupting your McDonalds breakfast and American Idol.

First, do not let your driver's license expire. You're and adult act like one. Second, be aware of the law. It is very likely that the passage of this bill was one of the most talked about, examined and reported on in the history of this state so the requirements on the provisions should have been known to everyone. Third, 1804 was not passed to ensure that you had a pleasent time getting your license. It was passed to prtect the my tax dollars from going to services provided to illegal aliens. The bill does njot specify and race, it specifies illegal aliens. Next time take the required documentation and/or do not let your license expire.

Whyno, no wrote: "It is possible that the person who could not tell the caller which number was being served because they are in a completely different part of the building. Why should they take time from customers who are in line to run down information for a caller?" That may have been the case (if so the person answering the phone should have explained that to the caller, instead of what came off as a rude response)..its called good "customer service". But I agree with you completely, everyone needs to be responsible and be prepared (the writer of the article had thought she was prepared but the government changed the rules on her). The government changes the rules all the time and even if you try to find out what the rules are, you are probably told incorrect information (just try asking the IRS something...frequently, by their own admission, you will get the wrong info....and its not THEIR fault..somehow it's yours and YOU end up having to pay the fine or penalty...LOL)

Current drivers: DON'T LET YOUR LICENSE EXPIRE. You carry it with you all the time - check the expiration date from time to time. Also, Larry, have you been to DMV recently? It is possible that the person who could not tell the caller which number was being served because they are in a completely different part of the building. Why should they take time from customers who are in line to run down information for a caller? People need to take a little responsibility and see that they have everything in place, then go to get the license. This is a personal lesson learned from much time and energy wasted in years past due to not taking the initiative to do a little research before showing up at a government office. If you just PAY ATTENTION, as long as you live in Oklahoma, this is a process that you should only have to go through once.

New drivers: take your documentation with you when you go to get your license. Most of you are still teenagers, so your parents probably have that at home. Call the agency and find out what is needed before you make a trip. Current drivers:

So, the story was about someone who got hassled because they didn't do what they were supposed to do? I don't care if I have to take extra steps to make sure I renew my license on time if it keeps illegals out of Oklahoma and of our welfare system. I don't care if the government wants to tap every phone in order to catch terrorists. I have nothing to hide. Quit complaining when the government takes GOOD action to help the CITIZENS of this country.

Please spare us the extreme over reaction to this... "HORROR story: Another tale of licensing woe", so you might have to wait in line a while. Didn't you have to wait BEFORE HB 1804? Didn't you have to have documentation BEFORE? "HB 1804 was aimed at cracking down on illegal immigrants. Instead, this portion of the law is creating unnecessary burdens for people who have lived here all their lives." How does one know who has been here all their lives and who hasn't? Documentation! Not an unnecessary burden in the least, just an inconvenience. Yes some of the rules had changed and what seems like an arbitrary cut off date was made (from when you had to have further documentation). Government does crap like that all the time. I had thought I lost my drivers license after 9/11 and went to get a replacement. The primary source of ID was a drivers license (to get a replacement one). How absurd is that? If I had my drivers license I wouldn't have been there to begin with! The only other documentation I could get from their list was a certified copy of my birth certificate (original lost somewhere over the years). Guess what they required to get a certified copy of the birth certificate? That's right, my drivers license. This was freakin' hilarious. But wait it gets better, since I didn't have my drivers license, they would accept ANYONE who had a drivers license to vouch for me. Could have been someone off the street that didn't know me from the editor of The Oklahoman. What WAS absurd in the original story that the writer was told when she called the DMV to find out what number they were on (she had gotten a number earlier in the day), she was told that she would have to come down to find out and wait their turn. It took that person more time and energy to NOT answer a simple question. Government stupidity for you. ID needs to be required in order to vote, yet we are told that's too much of a burden on people. How? I am asked to show my ID several times a day on a daily basis for the most mundane things (writing checks, using a debit card etc). So why is it a burden to show an ID for something as important as voting? Wish someone would please explain that one.

What they are referring to in this article(as to the birth certificate)is that once you have taken your birth certificate and obtained an Oklahoma ID, the ID becomes proof of your birthdate. The brother already had his Oklahoma ID (sometimes this is a Learner's Permit) and previous to 1804 would not be required to present his birth certificate a second time. However, it is a good idea to take all papers that you can possibly think of anytime that you are dealing with the Department of Public Safety.

I just noticed the headline for this story how dramatic can you be haha. "oh the horror" Mister editer save the drama for your mama.

I gueuss now you would bring it to prove your age and citizenship also. anyway that one document is your ultimate proof of who you are. I have my original and several certified copies passports and whatever reason may come up.

Way back in 75 when i went to get my Drivers license. I had to bring a birth certificate to prove my age. Why would anyone think it would be different now?

Yeah, J, you're right. Of course, if you can't find your birth certificate because you haven't needed it since who knows when, you get to stick your application for a copy in the mail to the Dept. of Health's Vital Records and wait.

The first document I would have thought that I needed WAS my birth certificate. Even before my SS#, since they don't use that for your license number anymore.

All that waiting is just the price you pay for living in the big city. We don't have that problem here in the boondocks.