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On the outside looking in
Kentucky troubles might keep Sutton out of the Hall of Fame
Kentucky troubles might keep Sutton out of the Hall of Fame

John Rohde
Published: February 8, 2008

Two more victories did not secure coach Eddie Sutton a spot in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

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Not this year, and probably not ever.

This year's list of hall finalists will soon be announced, and it's expected to have a heavy NBA presence.

For the umpteenth time, Sutton will not survive the cut.

Those who publicly supported Sutton when he had 798 career victories presumably still support him now that he reached 800 last Saturday.

Sutton has his supporters.

Problem is, not enough of them are voters.

The Hall of Fame selection process is an annual gathering of screening committees and an honor committee of unnamed members.

There are no set criteria to gain entry. No magic victory number secures automatic induction for a coach. The number 800 guarantees nothing.

Last year was Sutton's best chance for induction. He fell shy of the necessary votes and his chances fade a little more each year.

There might come a time when the class of candidates is not particularly strong and Sutton will gain entry.

That's a possibility, but not a certainty.

The reason for omitting Sutton from the Hall has not changed, and will not change, even though he came out of retirement at midseason to coach at San Francisco.

What transpired at Kentucky will forever be Sutton's downfall.

Sutton's malfeasance at UK was 20 years ago, but it might as well have been yesterday.

Under Sutton's watch, Kentucky was slapped with three years probation for violations that included cash provided to prospective student-athlete, academic fraud, unethical conduct and lack of institutional control.

Sutton's departure from Oklahoma State in 2006 was dicey from a personal standpoint.

A recovering alcoholic, Sutton left his office and crashed his SUV en route to the airport for a road game. His blood alcohol content was 0.22, nearly three times the legal limit.

And yet, Sutton nearly was inducted just 14 months later.

In the eyes of voters, Sutton's drunk-driving incident was a far more forgivable offense than what happened at Kentucky.

However, many of the 258 individuals and five teams already in the Naismith Hall of Fame are not without sin.

Texas coach Rick Barnes discussed Sutton's hall-of-fame candidacy after Wednesday night's 64-54 victory at Oklahoma.

"If Kentucky is what keeps him out of the Hall of Fame, they ought to go back and take a look at the history of some of the people who are inducted," Barnes said. "There are plenty of coaches in there who haven't accomplished as much (as Sutton). If that's what they're holding over his head, they need to go back and examine some of the people already in there."

College basketball writing giant Dick Weiss has long endorsed Sutton's induction.

Weiss recently visited Sutton in San Francisco, and while describing the USF team Sutton inherited, Weiss wrote, "It isn't really clear if his players realize they are playing for a coach who should be in the Hall of Fame ... and one of the most successful coaches in the history of college basketball."

At the Final Four two years ago, roughly two months after Sutton's car crash in Stillwater, I talked to roughly 20 college coaches about whether Sutton should be in the Hall of Fame.

Each one said yes.

Hopefully, none of it was lip service.

Sadly, some of it likely was.

Rather than focusing on the Naismith Hall of Fame in Springfield, Mass., Sutton should set his sights on the National Collegiate Basketball Hall of Fame's Hall of Honor at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

There, he could join legendary OSU coach Henry P. Iba, plus Phog Allen and Ralph Miller, three college coaches who recruited Sutton out of Bucklin (Kan.) High School.

Maybe the hall in Kansas City won't drop the ball.


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I find it very disappointing to read a column of this nature. As a lifelong OU supporter, I have great admiration for Eddie Sutton if for anything, he, as much as anyone, helped rejuvenate the thrill and excitement of Bedlam Basketball. The rivalry had languished a bit for several years before his return to OSU. I believe OU and OSU fans alike can agree that it languishes no more. For years, he was as good a coach as there was in the game. I've long marveled at his keen sense of detecting a trend in his teams' play that needed changing before a game got out of hand, calling a timeout at JUST THE RIGHT time, then see his team successfully reverse said trend and go on to win. How many coaches do we see who call time out after it's too late? Denying him a space in the Naismith Hall of Fame, or any other basketball hall of fame for which he may be eligible, puzzles me as much as it does seeing Guy V. Lewis not recognized in the same manner for his accomplishments. Hopefully some day, these omissions will be reversed.
Brad, Houston - Feb 9, 2008 1:35 AM
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Louis, Because he id not have the balls ???
Blair, Oklahoma City - Feb 8, 2008 10:00 PM
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Blair, watchout, you may be drinking with the wrong crowd, there are folks out there worse than the guy named Beckett who grabbed a Texas guy and wanted to take him home, the guy balked but Beckett 'hung' on
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Lou, Yukon - Feb 8, 2008 6:18 PM
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I will drink to that!!! Bottoms up Eddie !
Blair, Oklahoma City - Feb 8, 2008 1:25 PM
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sometimes i wish eddie was more like bob stoops, or barry switzer, then he would make the hall:) haha lol
Kenny, elko - Feb 8, 2008 12:12 PM
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Chris-I can give you an example of a coach in the Basketball HOF. John Cheney, who coached at Temple University for over 30 years, was elected into the hall when he "only" had about 600 wins. A few years later while still coaching, he admitted to and was suspended for instructing one of his players to intentionally injure an opposing player at the end of a close game in order to try and win. Yet, with this horrendous display of poor sportmanship, Cheney is still in the HOF. Sutton has had his personal problems, but he has never sullied the game itself.
Patrick, Edmond - Feb 8, 2008 10:38 AM
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And we wonder why the Poke fans call this paper the OUklahoman. Personally I think Eddie should be in the hall of fame, even before his stay in SF. He's a fantastic coach and has done a lot for college hoops. Sure he's made some mistakes but he has owned up to them. To say he'll NEVER be elected is ludicrous (no John, not the rapper).
Scott, Indian Territory - Feb 8, 2008 9:59 AM
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That's a good call on the O.J. HOF thing. I've never thought of it that way. Sutton should be in the hall of fame. To exclude him is to lessen the honor for others who get in.
Chris, Jones - Feb 8, 2008 9:43 AM
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Brandon-It is true. When Eddie was suspended at the end of the 2005-2006 season for the drunk driving incident, he was still officially the head coach until his resignation after the season. I'm not sure what the number is, but probably less than 10. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. We need to remember that Eddie coached those players all year and for their whole career at OSU up until his suspension and taught them how to play the game. Just because he wasn't on the sideline for the games doesn't mean he shouldn't get credit for those wins. Some may disagree and that's fine, but it's no less of a travesty that he is not in the HOF with 790 wins than with 800.
Patrick, Edmond - Feb 8, 2008 9:25 AM
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John from Destin-Thank you for the kind words. Very refreshing. As for Rohde, way to leave out the fact that Sutton himself was not named in any of the "malfeasance" at Kentucky. Just another example of "fair and and balanced" reporting from the DOK. What a joke.
Patrick, Edmond - Feb 8, 2008 9:19 AM
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Is it true that Eddie is counting wins for his total that Sean actually coached in?
brandon, stillwater - Feb 8, 2008 9:18 AM
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After the OSU plane crash it was Eddie Sutton who contacted all of the families. Everyone in grief looked to Eddie and he stood tall. All of the wins and championships are secondary to how Eddie represented himself during that dark hour. Regardless if the Kentucky cry babies like him or not, Eddie Sutton is a hall of fame coach. During his 17 years at Oklahoma State the NCAA never came visiting. He ran a clean program. He was the greatest thing to happen to OSU athletics since Coach IBA.
michael, trophy Club - Feb 8, 2008 9:14 AM
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Yeah, just like the Heisman Trophy chances stop at the Stillwater city limits...nice call on that one too, Rohde.
Grant, Fort Worth - Feb 8, 2008 9:08 AM
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No doubt Coach Sutton should be in the HOF, first ballot. Maybe you and the DOK should take up the cause and write articles on why it should happen and not why it won't.

John, Sapulpa - Feb 8, 2008 8:46 AM
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"probably not ever"? Are you nuts Rohde? The old geezers on the hall of fame committee are dying off as we speak. They are being replaced by younger voters who don't remember anything about what happened at Kentucky. Maybe you meant to say probably not in your lifetime? I promise you the 5th winningest coach ever will get in the HOF, and I will be there to see it.
Jeremy, Tulsa - Feb 8, 2008 8:20 AM
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John, You are very classy. I agree with you all the way. Aside from Bedlam, we need to support our state teams. Go Pokes!
JEFF, MIAMI - Feb 8, 2008 7:29 AM
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The NCAA gave Coach Sutton a complete clean bill of health on the Kentucky indicent.
Jerry, Tucson - Feb 8, 2008 7:26 AM
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To deny Sutton entry is the same as the football counterpart taking so long with Coach Switzer. He is an all time great, taking 4 different schools to the NCAA tournament, Creighton, Arkansas, Kentucky, and OSU.

Ok, he has some sins, but being a bad basketball coach was not part of it. If OJ Simpson can remain in the NFL Hall of Fame, don't even go there why Sutton should be denied.

Oh, I am an OU fan. It is time for everyone to shout out when something wrong is wrong, be it Sooner or Cowboy.
John, Destin - Feb 8, 2008 5:55 AM
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