Bill could force conformation
State English-only bill to get new life

By Devona Walker
Published: March 19, 2008

State Rep. Randy Terrill, R-Moore, wants voters to make English the official language of the state, putting a stop to bilingual driver's license testing and "press one for English and two for Spanish” voice recordings at all state agencies.

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The proposal is the only surviving provision of the once-called Son of House Bill 1804. Earlier plans called for ending birthright citizenship and included a provision to give law enforcement the ability to seize the property and assets of those convicted of harboring illegals.

"Official English was my personal priority item from Son of House Bill 1804,” Terrill said, adding that he will file the item as an amendment to existing Senate Bill 163.

Swift approval expected
It could be heard in a House committee as early as next week. Terrill says it might be on the governor's desk for approval in two weeks.

"We made a strategic decision not to send this through as a stand-alone bill, not for lack of support in the House. But it would have been difficult, if not impossible, to get it out of the Senate,” Terrill said, adding he was fearful it would either be killed or altered in a way that might soften the existing House Bill 1804 law.

House Bill 1804, commonly referred to as one of the strictest immigration enforcement laws in the nation, prohibits illegal immigrants from obtaining driver's licenses or public services. It criminalizes transporting or harboring them. It requires state agencies to verify the citizenship status of all new hires.

The purpose of the "official English” proposal, according to Terrill, is to stop the state from having to provide taxpayer services in any other language but English. It seeks to avoid the costs, conflicts and burden associated with "bilingualism,” he said. It would also force immigrants to conform.

"I would think it would be incumbent upon us as Americans to encourage all immigrants to assimilate — meaning learning the English language, our culture and our history,” Terrill said.

Is English hard to learn?
Greg Nguyen, a small-business owner, and his mother, Nhung Le, came to this country as Vietnamese refugees shortly after communists took over their native country.

"I don't know about the Mexicans. But I know that Asians, we try very hard to learn English. My parents, even my grandparents, they have all taken classes to learn,” he said. "My parents have been here, my mother as long as I have. They speak just enough to get by.

"They try to do their best to make people understand them. When you are older, it's just harder to learn.”

The Vietnamese government stripped them of their property and imprisoned his father.

Father Gaio Nguyen fought alongside U.S. soldiers in Vietnam. He remained a captive of the newly-empowered North Vietnamese government for six years before escaping.

"They took everything,” Gaio Nguyen said. "But here, if you work hard, you can succeed. Here, you don't have to worry about the government taking something away.”

What would the bill do?
The official English proposal would not govern language spoken between individual citizens nor would it prevent business owners from advertising in foreign languages.

It also includes numerous exceptions, specifically for American Indian languages and in cases where it would be to the state's advantage to offer a translator, specifically if the non-English-speaking person has been victimized by a crime.

Thirty states around the nation have similar statutes.

"I would think it would be incumbent upon us as Americans to encourage all immigrants to assimilate ...”

Rep. Randy Terrill, R-Moore

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No, Jason I do not believe everything I read. Actually, quite the opposite. I was "riled" long before Terrell was elected and I think the ignorant one is you (it seems very obvious to me). I don't know how many illegals there are in Oklahoma but it would not surprise me to find that the number is well over 100,000. The apologists for illegal aliens have a vested (fiscal) interest in one way or another but tell me, what does your argument have to do with making English the official language of Oklahoma? Why would you oppose it?
Phil, Yukon - Mar 30, 2008 8:45 AM
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sorry phil. that old way of thinking no longer works in todays political, social, or economic climate. you think those guys in iraq are fighting for my...your freedom? how about veitnam? we would actually be better served to space them 50 yards apart on the southern border...then our northern border would become the "hot"point. then coming by sea or submarine will become popular. but phil guess what...it will never matter what little empire maker terrill does until the federal government steps in and does something about it. really he is just wasting our time. what he is doing is riling folks like yourself up....who are to ignorant to see that it is a mute isssue. disigned to ralley people to a "right" cause to get him elected to a higher office. terrill is a waste, and his ugly gene pool needs to be drained. you phil sound like you believe everything you read... i mean come on 100k illegals in oklahoma???? please. i dont think there is even 100k blacks in oklahoma. they spend 200 million a year??? gee why isnt oklahoma broke?? because randy lies. and suckers like yourself are born every minute...in oklahoma every 10 seconds.
Randy, Moore - Mar 28, 2008 8:37 AM
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Jason, stopping illegal action is not likely. Slowing it is not only possible, but mandatory or are you suggesting that since crimes will continue no matter what, to just give up?
A prison is designed to keep people confined to a small space, not a country where the influx of people needs to be controlled to keep the criminals and other unwanted individuals out. Do you feel that the bases for the armed forces such as Tinker, Vance and Lawton are, in fact, prisons to keep people IN? The very people sworn to fight for freedom are, to your way of thinking, incarcerated to prevent freedom while they fight for it. Convoluted, to say the least.
Phil, Yukon - Mar 25, 2008 1:34 PM
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arnie. please name one example of where building a wall stopped the flow of people. it will only make americans feel like they are in one big jail... if you want a wall, try going to prison. us folks that like freedom dont like walls so much.
Randy, Moore - Mar 20, 2008 12:02 PM
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There are wise legislators in Oklahoma, perhaps your national delegation could convince the President to "Build that border fence". Ask them to please try.
Arnie, Wellton - Mar 19, 2008 10:26 PM
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please keep up the good work in OKlahoma, soon maybe therest of the country will follow suit
James, Myrtle Beach - Mar 19, 2008 8:01 PM
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"I would think it would be incumbent upon us as Americans to encourage all immigrants to assimilate ...”

Which of course he didn't say in a Native American language...
David, Streaking out of - Mar 19, 2008 3:21 PM
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Glenna, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 2:46 PM
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Glenna, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 2:44 PM
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Glenna, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 2:44 PM
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TO ANNE-CHOCTAW...Why don't you learn how to spell before you put Robert down fot his English...You DUFUS
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 2:44 PM
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TO ANNE-CHOCTAW...Why don't you learn how to spell before you put Robert down fot his English...You DUFUS
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 2:44 PM
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TO ANNE-CHOCTAW...Why don't you learn how to spell before you put Robert down fot his English...You DUFUS
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 2:44 PM
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TO ANNE-CHOCTAW...Why don't you learn how to spell before you put Robert down fot his English...You DUFUS
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 2:41 PM
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Go get them, Randy.The people love 1804 and we will overwhelmingly vote for English only.The state will save money.No more ballots in Spanish,no more translators.The multiculturalist scum are on the run. Hopefully,out of the state.Push one number for the state of Oklahoma and that is English and only English.
charles, tulsa - Mar 19, 2008 1:45 PM
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anne, I don't need to work on my english. It's fine dear.
robert, norman - Mar 19, 2008 11:03 AM
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Penny--who is forgetting? You can't find anyone who is forgetting that. This is a racist law.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 11:02 AM
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Anne, I don't need to work on my english; it's just fine , darling.
robert, norman - Mar 19, 2008 11:00 AM
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YES - it's a shame we have to go thru this but people are forgetting that ENGLISH is the language of AMERICA! - learn it, speak it! or go back to your country!
Penny, Garland - Mar 19, 2008 10:50 AM
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robert... you should work on your english... it's not pretty... but i am glad that we may do something about this... and i do agree with you robert it's not polite to go to a foreign country and expect them to accomidate to you, the visitor
anne, choctaw - Mar 19, 2008 10:41 AM
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About Time!
Peter, Lone Wolf - Mar 19, 2008 10:18 AM
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If I were to move to France, a french speaking nation, I would have to learn french. Everything from books, newspapers, media, signs, and everything else; they all in french. I can't ask someone to speak english or request that they add english as a second language. Therefore, I must learn french in order to get buy. Sure, it may be hard at first, but at least i'm learning the language. If I were a French native and I moved to the U.S., I would have to learn english because everybody speaks english and everything is in english. I would have a hard time getting by if I don't speak, hear, and read english.
It's stupid that every sign, paper, books, etc is printed in both english and spanish. Even the ATM machines, phone, cable, and every company i know has you pressing either 1 for english, or 2 for spanish. What about other languages like chinese, italian, french, and japanese. It's even more disgusting that in some parts of OKC, especially in the southern parts of town, there are signs that are printed in spanish only. How do I suppose to know what it says when I can't speak spanish.
Mexico official language is spanish, Italy is italian, Jamaica is english, and China is chinese. The US should and MUST make english the official language of the country. If you don't want to learn english, then you should leave or don't come here at all. I don't want to learn a language; nor do I want to communicate with someone who doesn't speak english. If you do, then I will have a hard time understanding what you want and will have to use hand signals ( I am not making that up; I have dealt with such people in the past ). So please, make english the official language.
robert, norman - Mar 19, 2008 10:08 AM
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So 30 other states have already done this? Thanks Randy, this insanity of bowing to illegal hispanics needs to come to an end.
Rufus, spencer - Mar 19, 2008 10:08 AM
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I am so tired of this Randy.im tired of everyone trying so hard to kick illegal people out of our country.seriously what is the real problem,is it bc they work for $6.50 an hour or is it bc they are they are willing to work hard for little pay to support their family's or is it maybe that you are seeing alot of them succeeding. bc their willing to work hard.im sorry but i use to work at staffing agency and for some reason people who were citizen's thought that working at a warehouse for $9hr was not good enough even if they had not worked for days even months,some $ is better than no $. i think they need to stop worrying about people that work hard and worry about these people that go in our DHS office asking for all type of assistance just so they can sit at home and keep making baby's.i feel like thats the real problem in oklahoma. young girl thinking its alrite to have baby's bc well the government is going to pay for everything. thats the real issue here. my money going to lazy people. so instead of judging bc you feel like just bc their from another country or bc they cant speak english they need to leave. im sorry but thats not the real issue.bc even if u kick illegal out of our country,you will still have the problem's we have now. just everything is just goin to cost more. so think b4 you judge!!!!
Antonia, oklahoma city - Mar 19, 2008 9:25 AM
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Percy needs to get a life.
Annabella, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 8:59 AM
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Percy, you should have quit while you were ahead.
Anonymous, Everywhere - Mar 19, 2008 8:47 AM
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I hate to leave such a stimulating topic, but it really is a dead issue. No way the Supreme Court lets this one get through anymore than they did in 2002. But it is great fodder for Letterman. Carry on. Or is that hasta la vista?
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:37 AM
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I would think it would be incumbent upon us as Americans to encourage all immigrants to assimilate ...” Now if we can just get our incumbents to assimilate.
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:32 AM
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Guess what????? Spanish is the OFFICIAL language of ..... MEXICO. How strange.
I have no problem with people speaking as many languages as they choose but I am sick to death of trying to appease special interest groups. This is America. When I frequent a business and cannot understand or be understood, I won't be back. If you can't read the roadsigns, you shouldn't be driving. If you want to become American, that includes adopting the language that has been part of the culture since the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence were written and signed... in ENGLISH.
Perhaps we should incorporate every known language into official signs, papers, contracts, laws and menus so as to appease the whiners.
Phil, Yukon - Mar 19, 2008 8:31 AM
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Why don't we just let the state declare pig-latin the official state language; that way if you want to protest your taxes or defend yourself against some bogus charge, you have to learn the government's language first! At last, a way around the Constitution's protection of the right to petition the government for redress of grievances. Shoot, I almost forgot about freedom of speech. I guess that means the founders really meant English speech?
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:30 AM
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cases where it would be to the state's advantage to offer a translator, specifically if the non-English-speaking person has been victimized by a crime. ====

So in cases where it benefits the state, it's okay; in cases where it benefits the individual, no, no,no!
And "specifically" in cases where someone is a victim of a crime, BUT not where they are a suspected perpetrator of the crime? So they get their "rights" read in English only? Sounds like a randy winner to me.
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:26 AM
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Did I miss the provision for "signing," you know like for deaf people? Is that in English?
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:23 AM
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Let's see now, everyone driving through Oklahoma will be required to abide by the laws of the State of Oklahoma, right? I mean, there will be no warning signs posted in any language other than English, right? Sounds good to me, but I don't have my wife and kids in a car next to the double being driven by a Mexican who thinks learning someone else's language is not "macho."
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:22 AM
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Does this law mean that the International Sign Language used on Oklahoma's highways will be outlawed? Or is it in English? I guess they called it International for a reason, huh?
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:16 AM
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Does this law mean that the International Sign Language used on Oklahoma's highways will be outlawed? Or is it in English? I guess they called it International for a reason, huh?
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:15 AM
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If you capitalize Randy, you have a noun functioning as a proper NAME; if you use a lower case randy, you have an adjective functioning as the PROPER name. Just a little English grammar lesson for our immigrant assimilants.
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:14 AM
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Maybe if Sen. Terrill is successful at this, other states will want a Randy Terrill. In which case they will be welcome to take ours, and we'll provide an English translation, too.
Percy F., Ardmore - Mar 19, 2008 8:10 AM
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Without stating an opinion either way, I'm just curious. Do we have a statute on the books at the present time that says we must print government forms in Spanish as well as English? I only moved back to this state two years ago, so maybe I missed out on when this was passed.
judie, Oklahoma City - Mar 19, 2008 7:42 AM
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... and as I recall, "assimilation" of Native Americans didn't work out very well. Can you say "cultural genocide"???
Walter, Edmond - Mar 19, 2008 6:45 AM
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Does that mean we couldn't call Terrill a dummkopf anymore? What about our free speech rights? Most of our English words have non-English etymological origins.... Oh, sorry, that's probably over his head. I should restrict my speech to something he can understand.
Walter, Edmond - Mar 19, 2008 6:41 AM
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