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Out of focus: An immigration issue we can fix
Out of focus: An immigration issue we can fix

The Oklahoman Editorial    Comments Comment on this article20
Published: March 23, 2008

WHEN talk in Washington turns to immigration, the focus is always on illegal activity and ways to curb it. How about paying some attention to legal immigration and ways to enhance it?

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We're talking specifically about the visas that are granted to well-educated, highly trained professionals from other countries. The United States dishes out just 65,000 of these H-1B visas each year, but the demand far outstrips that total. In fact last year (and in other years) the government's H-1B allotment was tapped out on the first day applications could be filed.

As a result, people who are clamoring to work in this country and who would be tremendous assets to U.S. firms and our society, instead wind up working and settling elsewhere.

Microsoft chairman Bill Gates tried to make this point to Congress recently, saying the lack of reform in this area of immigration "has exacerbated an already grave situation.” He pointed out, correctly, that our economy "depends on the ability of innovative companies to attract and retain the very best talent, regardless of nationality or citizenship.”

The Wall Street Journal, long a champion of raising the cap on H-1B visas, said the Labor Department expects more than 2 million high-tech openings (math, science, engineering, etc.) in the United States by 2014. Our universities aren't producing anywhere near enough graduates in these areas.

The Journal cited two studies by the National Foundation for American Policy. One found that major technology companies in this country average more than 470 job openings for skilled positions. The other study showed that H-1B filings among S&P 500 companies had a positive effect on overall work force numbers — not the opposite, as cap advocates like to contend.

Gates said his company was proof of that: At Microsoft, every H-1B hire has on average translated to four additional employees. "If we increase the number of H-1B visas that are available to U.S. companies, employment of U.S. nationals would likely grow as well,” he said.

Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Tulsa, joined a number of Republican Senators this month in introducing immigration legislation. Inhofe is seeking to make English the national language. Other bills introduced at that time called for, among other things, completing a fence along our southern border, streamlining deportation laws and establishing mandatory minimum sentences for illegal immigrants.

The federal government does need to come up with a workable policy in this arena. In the meantime, though, we'd love to see someone in D.C. give a little consideration to the H-1B visa problem. Raising the cap substantially would be a good start, and would be hailed by companies that now see too many talented and eager workers wind up overseas.

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The reason why the Federal Government won't do anything to fix the illegal problem bankrupting us is that it's a precursor to the North American Union merger. Facts are there. Only people in denial state otherwise. European Union happened exactly the same way that individual countries are fighting.
Richard, Oklahoma City - Mar 27, 2008 at 8:19 am
J.T., I realized that after my last comment, I said all I needed to in my first few sentences. Specifically, that you are incapable of higher thought, so I am done with this subject. So on that note, I have said all I have said and in having this discussion with you I have wasted my time. You are welcome to the last word and the feeling like you have accomplished something but not to take anything away from your unearned feeling of accomplishment, know that your final word will not be seen nor heard from me.
Sam, Edmond - Mar 26, 2008 at 9:47 pm
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Hey J.T. obviously you don't have the use of higher thought, so how about your eyes. I never called you racist, I called you xenophobic. You can be of a certain race and still be a xenophobe. Just to enlighten you, a xenophobe is someone that is scared of FOREIGNERS. In fact I just said you were furthering anti-Hispanic Rhetoric, I didn't even say you are anti-Hispanic. Not once did I call you racist. If you could quote me on calling you racist, then I would have egg on my face. And further more you still haven't denied that your intentions on placing the article from the AP WERE NOT to further Anti-Hispanic rhetoric, so therefore I can still safely assume your diagnosis of Xenophobia. And stating you are a Hispanic is like stating that you a human. Claiming to be Hispanic easily includes those of Puerto Rican, Cuban, and any other Spanish speaking nationality. So you can be a Hispanic and still be nowhere near the issue of Illegal MEXICAN Immigration. And just for clarification, I too am a Hispanic from a Majority of Mexican Ancestry.
Sam, Edmond - Mar 26, 2008 at 8:06 pm
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LOL a classic case of Sam running his mouth. Hey Sam a little secret, I'm Hispanic so how can I be anti-Hispanic? Just goes to show how dumb some people are. I knew this is what you were getting at in the earlier post, so I refrained from stating this. You might want to get a towel because there's egg all over your face. I would suggest keeping your comments to yourself because obviously you don't know everything what you're talking about. Nice try on the racism bit, too bad you make all your comments with racism on your mind.
J.T.(I), Norman - Mar 26, 2008 at 12:07 am
Hey J.T., quote from the article

"WHEN talk in Washington turns to immigration, the focus is always on illegal activity and ways to curb it. How about paying some attention to legal immigration and ways to enhance it?"

See the writer of the article is stating in the first paragraph that this not about illegal immigration. Usually in the beginning of any kind of essay writing you want to state what is called an "IDEA". In fact, the article doesn't mention anything to do with illegal immigration until the last 2 paragraphs. The article is about H-1B visas, not illegals. So like I said, your comment adds nothing to the discussion, and your second comment further leads me to believe that you are just furthering anti-Hispanic rhetoric. So unless you can get past your xenophobia and possibly add something positive to the discussion, keep your comments to yourself.
Sam, Edmond - Mar 25, 2008 at 7:28 pm
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I agree about Imhoff and his waste of bill-making time. The Oklahoman is right about this issue, but I also think we need to address some of the problems with our public education system - especially in the OKC system. It's been broke a long time and it needs fixing. As an alternative point of view, let me point out that free public education is a privilege. In another country I know about free public education is only given to those with the highest test scores. For average and below average students, they must attend a private school and pay for their schooling. This is so a reversal of our way of thinking, but it makes sense. If are educational system is being drug down because of slower students, or those who refuse to learn, let them pay for their education. And let's reward good scholarship in America. We seem to honor those who make their millions with only an 8th grade education, rather than those who do technical jobs like medical research and make decent salaries. In America we don't honor our teachers as they do in some countries, and parents don't usually back up the teachers authority. It didn't used to be like that. So, if we have to import more educated workers from abroad, then we must, but wouldn't it be more reasonable to fix the educational system we have here first?
Mike, Oklahoma City - Mar 25, 2008 at 11:41 am
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One wonders if the highly educated and highly skilled American, which probably represents a significant number of Republican voters, appreciate the Corporate cons latest scheme to increase their power and profits by forcing Americans to compete with high-skill, low paying H-1B visa holders? I suggest our legislators address the problem of education, instead of turning their backs on Americans in favor importing competition. And to the hack that wrote this anti-American garbage "see too many talented and eager workers wind up oversees," um, they don't wind up there, that is where they live. Why do you hate America?
Oilfield, Oklahoma City - Mar 25, 2008 at 11:37 am
Hey Sam, the topic of this article is immigration and I posted a news article that corresponds to the topic. I'm not sure what you're trying to say? Should I post something about Disneyland in this thread or something about global warming or cooling, depending on who you ask. If there's a thread about the topics you've commented on, then I'll probably do it, in the correct thread. So, as it stands, I posted an article from AP that does deal with the topic in this thread. Anymore brilliant comments you would like to make?
J.T.(I), Norman - Mar 24, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Great post J.T., another post that shows how messed up are system is. Why don't you try to find a news post about a white juvenile delinquent that shortly after being released from juvie killed someone else, because our corrections system is messed up. Or a black. Or you could bring up Sept. 11 about how their is no interdepartmental communication. What exactly is your point J.T.? Because just as it stands, it feels (i say feel because it is an opinion) like rhetoric.
Sam, Edmond - Mar 24, 2008 at 8:45 pm
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AP News - A gang member accused of killing Los Angeles high school football star Jamiel Shaw is in the country illegally and had been released from jail without anyone questioning his citizenship the day before Shaw's shooting. Meanwhile, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa on Saturday afternoon was scheduled to join with Shaw's family to dedicate a memorial honoring the 17-year-old at the spot where he was killed. Police say Pedro Espinoza, the 19-year-old suspect arrested in Shaw's death, has been in a street gang since he was 12. Until this month, he had been in jail on charges of exhibiting a firearm and obstructing an officer. Espinoza was arrested March 7 and charged with murder. The charge has been labeled gang-related, which could make him eligible for the death penalty. He is scheduled to appear in court Tuesday. Police still are looking for a second man thought to be Espinoza's accomplice. Police said Shaw was a standout running back and a good student at Los Angeles High School. He also was the Southern League's most valuable player last season and had been recruited by universities including Stanford. Shaw's mother, Army Sgt. Anita Shaw, had been serving in Iraq but returned home when her son was killed. She is slated to redeploy to Iraq to finish her second tour of duty despite dozens of letters sent to her Army supervisors asking for an exemption. Immigration officials told the TV station that Espinoza is an illegal immigrant, but no red flags were raised when he was released from jail March 1.
"The system is not 100 percent," Lori Haley, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, told the station. Police say Shaw was walking home from a mall on March 2 when Hispanic gang members pulled up in a car and asked him, "Where are you from?" — code for what gang did he belong to, police said. Espinoza then allegedly shot Shaw, who was not a gang member.

J.T.(I), Norman - Mar 24, 2008 at 7:53 pm
I can't believe I agree with The Oklahoman. Wow. I agree that Sen Inhofe should focus a little more on the real issues confronting our educational system rather than his English Only campaign. He really needs to go...as in voted out. Good luck.
Greg, Panama City, Panama - Mar 24, 2008 at 7:45 pm
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What I find funny is that almost everyone agrees that our immigration system needs revising, and what does Inhofe offer up? A 'English=Official Language' bill. What a waste of office space!
Concerned, Central Oklahoma - Mar 24, 2008 at 12:10 pm
having traveled around the world and talked to people wanting to come to america to work and so forth, i agree that it is much to difficult to come over to america. Most people who want to work are not going to do any harm, so why not allow them to come over? they can bring their skills and hopefully help fix our ruined economy.
matt, okc - Mar 23, 2008 at 11:50 pm
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Nice BS. Bill Gates can't find prospects in any of the universities, colleges, private institutions, or tech firms? I guess MIT isn't what it used to be? Funny though, why do so many foreign students want to come here for advanced education? I didn't know Harvard, Princeton, Cornell, and numerous other institutions can't supply the needs of one Bill Gates. OU is just a pathetic institution, incapable of producing any valuable high-tech candidates. As I said, nice BS.
J.T.(I), Norman - Mar 23, 2008 at 11:31 pm
If those screaming for H1B visas would throw their lobbying money into the educational system here at home, maybe you would have enough skilled workers. Oops! I forgot that they want to pay lower wages, too! My bad.
John, Maud - Mar 23, 2008 at 5:47 pm
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What I think is funny is that no one has said anything about all children in our educational system need to learn other languages. Everyone talks about how we need to make English the mandatory and the recognized language of the country but no one is talking about how many other countries such as Japan, India, and pretty much all the European countries mandate at least 3 languages in schools. If you want to feel completely stupid about yourself, do yourself a favor and visit another county. When you see the taxicab drivers switch between Danish, German, and English and you need to keep asking everyone you see "Um... Do you speak English?" Chances the person will laugh internally and say "no". Stop bitching about the influx of illegals and start talking about how our jobs are going to people from these other countries that are just as well trained as our own people, but they are polyglots and they know not just the culture of their country but the culture of others. I just don't understand the never ending xenophobic behavior of the people in this country. Now before anyone says I'm a "spic lover", I'm not advocating that we should stop American progress to help the minorities (i.e. spics, beaners, latinos). I'm saying that we need educational reform. We can't keep talking about how good America use to be, because looking at the past won't fix anything. I'm talking about educational reform that would bring our young people into a competitive grounds not with their fellow Americans, but with the people of the world. We should have our kids learning not just 2 languages but at least 3-5. French, Japanese, Arabic, Spanish. If we mandated these languages for our kids, America would be the home of the call centers, not India. I mean there is a reason why our Government passed the Abraham Lincoln act to get more of our College Students into other countries and the give kids from other countries the chance to study in the states. TO PROMOTE CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING. Not this typical Xenophobic fair that seems to be the case with America.
Sam, Edmond - Mar 23, 2008 at 3:54 pm
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oops...NEEDING the teachers attention.
K, Oklahoma City - Mar 23, 2008 at 2:15 pm
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Well said Dave. My daughter attends a local High School. The students that don't speak English are in their own little corner of the world with their own private teacher. Meanwhile, the American citizens' children are in classrooms with 30-40 students. And people wonder why our children are not excelling. If you are not already in PEAK or a non-English speaking student...you have virtually no chance for added assistance where needed. There are just too many kids needed the teachers attention.
K, Oklahoma City - Mar 23, 2008 at 2:14 pm
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Something that is very seldom mentioned, is one raw fact about our educational grades. For about three decades now America has been occupied between 12 and 20 million illegal aliens including families. Under federal mandate every child must enter school, with little or no understanding of the English language. Under pressure teachers in kindergarten to K-12, must use their skills to prepare foreign national children the fundamentals of the English language, while the citizen-children seem not to be a priority. Because of this these children fall behind on subjects such as maths, science, chemistry and other classroom grades.
No wonder the children of citizens are fallen behind, because they are not receiving the attention they received in the years before the illegal immigration invasion. California was once in the forefront of high academic performance and now it has one of the lowest grades in the nation. Gates of Microsoft and the pariah big business machine are equally to blame for this embarrassing situation, because they have been the driving magnet for the unfettered influx of poor cheap labor stealing into America. Once upon a time America was the pride of the world, with educational performance and now we just drift along with incompetent administrations who thinks its the norm to import skilled workers. With educational levels no higher than 8th grade we as a nation have imported poverty, which the U.S. taxpayer is forced to support.
Dave, Indianapolis - Mar 23, 2008 at 1:04 pm
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Congratulations! This is one "immigration" story the editors have gotten right.
Larry, Oklahoma City - Mar 23, 2008 at 2:58 am

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