Guys, do you know anything about the Mexico government and the terrible situation there? It will not change without international assistance (U.S. mainly) The families living there that are living way beloew poverty don't have time to piddle around waiting for a revolution, hence they come here. You would too. Oh, and J.T., it's always cheaper in China, that's why. Mexico can't compete with those prices. I'm all for not buying anything produced there though, and I'm close to being all about an Olympic boycott...a little off the subject, I know.

Thanks, Paris I will check into it & the Farmers market was something I had not thought of.

Jimmy, if you are really interested try www.StillMadeinUSA.com or www.madeinusa.com Everything from cloths, to soap to tools.

That's a tough one Jimmy. I said try not to. I have to really need it to give in. Of course, like most Americans I have too much stuff. I argued with my insurance company for 5 months and in the end, I won. I think they just got sick of hearing from me and my doctor. Just hang in there and read the labels. Don't take any meds from there, OTC or prescription. As for food I have been going to the farmers market and ordered my beef from No Name Ranch. Ouch!! Expensive. No more pre-packaged anything. We lost our cat because of the pet food thing last year. We didn't know at the time what the problem was.

Now Paris I have a question for you . My wife & I try really hard not to buy anything that is made in China but evidently we are shopping at the wrong places because I very seldom find anything that is made anywhere but China where are we going wrong?

I will share this with you. The company I was talking about made their products in Oklahoma for many decades, now they have the products made in China and repackaged and assembled here. Now, the China products are assembled in Mexico and shipped here to be packaged. I am getting really good about not buying anything that is made in China if it is at all possible to find something made elsewhere. I just had a big disagreement with my insurance company about a drug that is now made in China, it used to be made in France. I will not take any drug made in China. They said it is cheaper when made in China. If it is, then why does it cost $2.13 more a month than when it was made in France?

J.T It won't work because it makes to much sense!!!

Here's a question that never gets answered, why do we have so much stuff made in China when it could be made in Mexico? There's some stuff made in Mexico, but not nearly as much as China. So, if we have NAFTA, wouldn't it make sense to take advantage of that trade agreement? If Mexico is supposed to be friendly, which it is, then it would make sense to help them boost their economy instead of boosting the economy of a foe and communist nation. Besides, the stuff being made in Mexico wouldn't have to travel half-way around the world. It would mean more jobs for the people of Mexico and more jobs for the people of the U.S. as well.

Paris, Not that it makes a difference, but my wife has been watching some kind of little mini series on HBO that tells of the founding of this country, America hasn't always been as great as she is now a lot of men & women worked very hard to make her the great country that she is . I believe with a little hard work & some very high hopes that it could be possible for Mexico & many other countries to become better, this of course would be a battle between the people & the government of their country but one well worth fighting for, if you want it bad enough!! We did it & I believe there are just as many smart non Americans out there as there are smart ones. As I said before I do not have ill feelings toward any person because of their skin color or where they came from but this country is ours & most of us want it back & most of us know it can't carry the load anymore. I am all for sending jobs to Mexico as opposed to China but my opinion doesn't really count.

Well said Jimmy. I know it is hard in some countries to make a living. However, I can tell you there is one large company here in Oklahoma that is slowly closing up shop and relocating in Mexico. The wages are not real good here. However, several hundred people find it worth while to work there and support their families. The wage is lower in Mexico for this company and would be considered excellent there. There is absolutly no reason that a determined group could no make any country a better place to live.

Sam, If you were born here then you are us & if you crossed the border being born in another country & came here illegally then that would make you them. I have no disrespect for any person, but this country & state just can't handle the overload & If the illegals would stay in their own country & fight half as hard to turn it around ,as they do to stay here then what an awesome country they could make it.

I agree, we would save money in the longterm by not having to pay for programs, healthcare, etc.. for those NOT paying taxes. We are not mean- we just want illegal aliens to get DOCUMENTED for security and tax reasons. Gheez. Common sense! Go get documented and you can stay- if not, leave.

If, could, estimate....What a nothing article...I don't think everyone who wants these law breakers out is racist...This law means all illegals, not just Mexican..ILLEGAL, what part of that do you not understand? Ask any OKC policeman what the cost to that department alone costs. Mexican gangs are running things in near SW OKC. Wake up people, we are not talking about good hard working honest families. If the were all good they would be here legally. Would you go into someone else's country illegally and expect benefits. As for the rights of illegals, they have none, they are illegal.

Since we know that illegals drain the government by billions of dollars a year in "free handouts", I would think that us losing a little in productivity would be only a drop in the bucket of what we are currently losing. If you are illegal -- I don't care what nationality you are -- you need to go back home. America cannot support and feed the whole world. We should take care of our own before we give handouts to illegals.

henny penny.. quick..tell ducky lucky.. the sky is falling.. This is not directed at the matter concerning the teenage footbaler

Wow, no sympathy whatsoever, just sarcasm. A woman serving her country is let down by the very government she serves because her son is killed by not just an illegal alien, but a criminal illegal alien. So Kurt, the only thing ridiculous here is your comment and how you find a death of an innocent Black teenage football star, educated enough to be considered by Stanford, to be sarcastic. Now that's tragic in itself.

Alright guys, J.T. proved it with that story. Every illegal alien in America kills people for no reason. Thank you for clearing that up. You guys are ridiculous.

AP News - A gang member accused of killing Los Angeles high school football star Jamiel Shaw is in the country illegally and had been released from jail without anyone questioning his citizenship the day before Shaw's shooting. Meanwhile, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa on Saturday afternoon was scheduled to join with Shaw's family to dedicate a memorial honoring the 17-year-old at the spot where he was killed. Police say Pedro Espinoza, the 19-year-old suspect arrested in Shaw's death, has been in a street gang since he was 12. Until this month, he had been in jail on charges of exhibiting a firearm and obstructing an officer. Espinoza was arrested March 7 and charged with murder. The charge has been labeled gang-related, which could make him eligible for the death penalty. He is scheduled to appear in court Tuesday. Police still are looking for a second man thought to be Espinoza's accomplice. Police said Shaw was a standout running back and a good student at Los Angeles High School. He also was the Southern League's most valuable player last season and had been recruited by universities including Stanford. Shaw's mother, Army Sgt. Anita Shaw, had been serving in Iraq but returned home when her son was killed. She is slated to redeploy to Iraq to finish her second tour of duty despite dozens of letters sent to her Army supervisors asking for an exemption. Immigration officials told the TV station that Espinoza is an illegal immigrant, but no red flags were raised when he was released from jail March 1. "The system is not 100 percent," Lori Haley, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, told the station. Police say Shaw was walking home from a mall on March 2 when Hispanic gang members pulled up in a car and asked him, "Where are you from?" — code for what gang did he belong to, police said. Espinoza then allegedly shot Shaw, who was not a gang member.

Jeff, Renee and Mike, I congratulate the three of you for showing both humanity and common sense. However, if you count the comments that fail to do either, you will find yourself in a small minority on this issue.
What's worse, if you read the tenor of the opposition letters, you'll realize that trying to to change that spewing of hate and bigotry is wasted time. They don't want to hear you, so they won't.

HB1804 is a good deed done for Oklahoma and the nation. Remember, no good deed goes unpunished, so accept the small dollar reduction and be proud of the progress Oklahoma has made in helping to retrieve the sovereignty of our nation. Oklahoma may be considered 'fly over country' but states like Oklahoma are what holds the east coast and the west coast together.

Interesting, Mexifornia has most of the illegals and they are going bankrupt. Why are they not cutting a large profit if supporting these illegals are good for the economy???

What's wrong with just getting legal?

HB 1804 is one of the most racist, xenophobic pieces of tripe masquerading as a law concerned about illegal immigration as has ever been written.
Now all the hand wringing begins.
Too bad they didn't have the courage to speak up sooner.
Then we have their counterparts right here on newsok.com writing in the same crap about "us" and "them".
Scary.

Interesting, only $1.3 billion impact, that's it.
If you consider $144 billion and divide it by the state's present population you get $40,200 per capita.

If you then consider $1.3 billion and divide it by the 50,000 estimate you get only $26,000 per foreign-born worker.

Next if you take 50,000/3,579,212 (The state's est. pop.) and multiply by $144 billion you get $2 billion in projected gross state product declines, however the article cited that it would be $1.3 billion, longer term. In short the state's gross state product would decline, however the gross state product per person would increase by about (144 billion-1.3 billion)/(3,579,212 - 50,000)
or about $200 per person

In short, these aren't the jobs we should care much for.