'Sally Rally' draws more than 1,000 Kern supporters
'Sally Rally' draws more than 1,000 Kern supporters

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By Michael McNutt
Published: April 2, 2008

More than 1,000 people crowded into the state Capitol today to show their support for Rep. Sally Kern and for her freedom-of-speech right to call homosexuality the biggest threat facing America.

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Kern and several others, including a man who said he was gay until he found Jesus Christ, often quoted Scriptures while speaking to the crowd.

Kern, R-Oklahoma City, said after the rally she was humbled by the turnout.

"This is not about me," Kern told those at the rally. "It's about the church having the right to speak out about the redeeming love of Jesus Christ Who died to set us all free from our sins."

Kern's husband, the Rev. Steve Kern, said it wasn't the purpose of the rally to bash homosexuals.

"We love them," said Rev. Kern, pastor of Olivet Baptist Church in Oklahoma City.

Several groups supporting homosexual and lesbian rights had asked Kern to apologize for her comments.

Kern told those attending a meeting of an Oklahoma City Republican club that was held away from the Capitol that homosexuality is "the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam." Someone recorded her comments and gave it to a pro gay-rights group; that statement and some of her other comments, which some groups called a form of hate speech, were posted on the Internet.

Kern said a biblical verse came to her after her comments were posted last month on the Internet. The passage is Philippians 1:12, where the apostle Paul wrote, "I want you to know that what has happened to me has served to the advancement of the gospel."

"And that's the way I'm looking at this to God be the glory," she said.

Kern said again today she is not going to apologize. She said her comments were not against homosexuals, but were directed at the strategy of gay rights supporters to defeat conservative candidates.

Kern's husband said he wasn't asking anyone to apologize for the thousands who sent hate mail to his wife's Capitol office and to their home or said mean things about their family.

"We forgive you," he said. "We have no animosity in our hearts toward you."

Stephen Black, executive director of First Stone Ministries in Oklahoma City, said he once was gay. His organization, he said, helps men and women overcome homosexuality.

"There is a political agenda and a cultural message about homosexuality (and) that it is destructive to our country," he said.


 


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Clive- Why worry about someone's final judgement? We are creatures that possess an eternal soul. Some believe that that soul is reincarnated over and over, and some believe that soul is possessed by many, others believe that the soul belongs to the individual. Christians believe the latter, and are taught that the Messiah, who will wipe away every tear, is also the judge of humanities rejection of God. Because of this, caring Christians possess a desire that no individual soul spends their eternal existance in pain that never heals, thirst that is never quenched, and anger that never ceases. Therefore they care about your judgement. You can choose to accept God, or reject God, that is your right. But that is why Christian people care about judgement.
Rebecca, Owasso - Apr 6, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Sex is designed for procreation, we have a biological drive within us to continue the species. This is true whether you are a Christian or not. Simple basic biology taught in public school will tell you this. Biology has six signs of life 1. Composed of Cells 2. Organization 3. Metabolism 4. Response to Stimuli 5.Reproduction; living things must be able to reproduce, not for the individual, but for the continuation of life. and 6. Growth.
Rebecca, Owasso - Apr 6, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Greg sorry it has taken me so long to respond I have been out of commission and not online for a few days. You say there is no gay agenda. I disagree and in so doing, because my views are different than yours, you attack my education call me stupid and then ask me to load up my trailer and head out of town. Why all the hate? Just to let you know I do have a B.A. but knowledge and wisdom are two separate things. To say there is no agenda is as ludicrous as saying there is no right wing republican agenda or democratic agenda.
You asked for so proof so here it is but I'm sure you will just dismiss them and say that all the sources are to be ignored because they don't agree with your opinion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_agenda

http://www.article8.org/docs/general/platform.htm
“The agenda and vision that we must proudly articulate is that yes, indeed, we intend to change society.”
–Matt Foreman, president of the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, Nov. 10, “Creating Change” Conference.
My hope is not that you agree but that you will be more tolerant of those that disagree with you. Also when you lashing out and attack someone that you disagree with it shows a lack of ability to state facts pertaining to the subject. Try to stay focused on the subject being discussed and stop the offensive hate speech. It shows a lack of wisdom. P.S. I also own my home and it has no wheels! Wow the intolerance.

K, Oklahoma City - Apr 4, 2008 at 6:10 pm
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Kevin - People who deny the facts and consequences of their own choices that violate the design of Nature are doomed to fail.
Robert, Oklahoma City - Apr 3, 2008 at 9:02 am
I wouldn't go so far as to say that, Kevin. I think that's just as divisive as what Sally said. I am not a religious person but I know enough religious people (it is the bible belt, after all) to know that not everyone who is religious is a Sally Kern. Many of my GLBTIQQA friends are religious. I don't believe religion and intelligence are mutually exclusive. If we are to counter the misconceptions about homosexuality, we can't perpetuate misconceptions about people who believe in a deity.
BBJ, Midwest City - Apr 3, 2008 at 8:31 am
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Kevin, Carbondale - Apr 3, 2008 at 7:49 am
People who talk to imaginary voices in the sky are hardly capable of assessing facts.
Kevin, Carbondale - Apr 3, 2008 at 7:49 am
Additionally, I agree with Clive. Worry about your own day of judgment. Stop worrying about mine, or Buddhists' or Hindus' etc. If the god you believe in would send all those people to hell just because they believed a bit differently from you, then what difference does it make if you worry about them? None. It just creates more worry for you. Peace. Coexist. It is possible you know.
BBJ, Midwest City - Apr 3, 2008 at 7:10 am
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Chris, if you read my last two posts from last night you'll see where I mentioned a need for sleep since I had to rise early today for work. You didn't scare me off. I won't be able to post much (if at all) from work, but trust me, I didn't leave because of you, or because of Barbara, or even because of Bill. I left because it was time to go to sleep. Don't twist what happened.
BBJ, Midwest City - Apr 3, 2008 at 7:08 am
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Why would anyone be concerned for other peoples "Day of Judgement" ?
Clive, Oklahoma City - Apr 3, 2008 at 6:57 am
I can't believe they deleted my Quote of the Messiah who's Crucifixion and Resurrection will be celebrated beginning after dark, Sat. April 26 and most so-called Christians, probably including Mrs. Kern and her preacher husband's Church worshiped the sex-goddess Easter which celebrates sexual perversion, Mar. 23 as is the worst abomination in the whole Bible by Eze. 8. No wonder the Messiah said Sodom and Gomorrah would fare better on Judgment day than this generation. The Creator destroyed them with fire and brimstone for homosex practices as He did with the Flood not all that long before. The Savior said even Sodom and Gomorrah would condemn this generation.
Floyd, Oklahoma City - Apr 3, 2008 at 1:14 am
Wow, it looks as if Barbara and I cleared the room. Good job us!!!
Chris, Moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:39 am
What happened to Paula?
Chris, Moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:37 am
Thanks for chatting with me Mark. I do appreciate it. Just remember, whether I or you believe it or not, the Bible says that God has set aside a day where he will judge the world in righteousnous. Mark you can email me any time if you want to talk further. Chris@PreachTheLaw.com. Thanks buddy. I will be prayin for you tonight.
Chris, Moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:36 am
Now to the government and it's elected officials they are (in my mind) entitled to their opinion. Which by the way what Rep, Kern was doing saying her opinion not facts.(Which by the way she spoke of 4 times before it got recorded) She spoke at a meeting of Republican club (by the way open meeting) On aggressive homosexual political agenda.
(How by the way they are funding homosexual and pro homosexual candidates to defeat conservatives everywhere.) Did not know if everyone had the facts on what she was really doing?
Barbara, moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:36 am
Now to the government and it's elected officials they are (in my mind) entitled to their opinion. Which by the way what Rep, Kern was doing saying her opinion not facts.(Which by the way she spoke of 4 times before it got recorded) She spoke at a meeting of Republican club (by the way open meeting) On aggressive homosexual political agenda.
(How by the way they are funding homosexual and pro homosexual candidates to defeat conservatives everywhere.) Did not know if everyone had the facts on what she was really doing?
Barbara, moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:35 am
Mark do you think I am using scare tactics to "Break you down?" I'm not. I am just being real. In the late 1980s, TV commercials in the U.S. asked, "What goes through the mind of a driver who is not wearing a seat belt in a head- n collision?" Then they showed a crash dummy having its head crushed by a steering wheel in a collision, and said, "The steering wheel!" Those were scare tactics, but no one complained because they were legitimate scare tactics. That’s what happens in a head-on collision if you are foolish enough to not put on a seat belt. To warn of hell is fearful, but it is absolutely legitimate, because the Bible says that it is a fearful thing for a sinner to fall into the hands of the living God.
Chris, Moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:34 am
We really could go around all night about this and never change each others minds. Thanks for the discussion though. It is nice to be challenged and to have to think through what you believe and why you believe it. It's healthy. I wish you all a great night and a great life.
Walker, New York, NY - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:32 am
Mark, Jesus said, and I am saying to you lovingly, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. So what, hindus, muslims, buddhists, they all get to heaven believing in there own made up, carved out of wood, god? That sir, is so unreasonable.
Chris, Moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:31 am
Paula, you are right, he did not encourage hate at all. And neither do Christains. Well they shouldn't anyways. Some do. But Jesus did speak of hate himself. Jesus is love therefore he MUST hate. I love children, therefore I hate abortion. You see what I mean? Like you said, it's my belief. But that too is also wrong. It's not true because I believe it, I believe it because it's true. If Jesus was a real man, and is who he says he is, and can not tell a lie as the Bible says, then that means what he said is true that all must repent or will go to hell. If I told you I don't believe in trucks and went out and stood in the middle of I-40, my UNBELIEF is not going to change reality. I am going to get crushed!! So again, I care about your soul. If you died tonight, and God judged you by His law, would you go to heaven or hell?
Chris, Moore - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:28 am
Chris... I know it is easier when someone is weak and breaks down to listen to you. I know you have people's best interest in mind when you are "witnessing" to them. All I am saying is there are many more people in this world that do not believe as you do and I doubt they are all going to "hell." Come on... it is all so unreasonable.
Walker, New York, NY - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:28 am
"Hateful"? I'm just defending the TRUTH. If it stings a little, too bad. Your arrogance and pride are getting in the way your logic.
bill, Oklahoma City - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:27 am
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(That last post was directed at Bill, not at Chris or Barbara.) And with that, good night.
BBJ, Midwest City - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:26 am
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And while I would love to stay here all night and debate the constitutionality of separation of church and state for those who still cannot grasp it, I do have a job to go to tomorrow. Be sure to speak ill of me while I am gone and then claim you are doing it for God. I'm sure he'd be proud.
BBJ, Midwest City - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:25 am
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Don't even respond to Bill's weak logic Paula... I won't either. He has a hateful chip on his shoulder and isn't even worth the energy. I know this post sounds a bit hateful as well... but I am just returning the sentiment.
Walker, New York, NY - Apr 3, 2008 at 12:25 am

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