Barry you sure are hateful

You're due for one.. It's supposed to bedlam..
You're at home this year, Maybe "The Man" can get
his BOYS to tackle.. If not, you'll have to wait another 2 yrs for a legitimate shot.

Holder is not a dumb man. Even though some people think he is cause he fired Sean Sutton. I am sure Holder talked with many coaches around the league about Ford. Realistically, it would be hard to get a coach to leave a mid major team that recently went to the dance just to come and rebuilt again. A coach that has built so much up for a mid major team should be seeking a national title or at least a final four bid in order to make his value sky rocket. I think Ford was a valid choice. I will give him 4 years. In the mean time, OU fans beware. Gundy is going to sneak up on you and steal one.

Lee Harvey Oswald told me exactly how he shot Kennedy, who hired him, and why. I was on the the phone with Princess Diana when she got killed. The Bilderbergers dropped me an email about how the New World Order is progressing. I witnessed Freemasons perform satanic rituals. I watched a guy drop the plunger that set off a series of explosions which brought down the World Trade Center. I am a billionaire and Salma Hayek comes over late on Wednesdays. Anonymity is such a license for spewing rumors. OK "Holder" back it up. If you are so highly placed and know it all, provide something other than an anonymous blog. Thought so.

This just goes to show that mike holder was out for Sean Sutton's job the whole time....There was no way a quality coach is going to get mixed up answering to boone pickens, uhhmmm, i mean mike holder....Don't let him fool you folks, i personally heard mike holder say that he did not think much of Eddie Sutton while he was the head coach at osu and that he has not done half as much as holder has for the university....he said that he was a sorry man and basketball coach....he also use to bet against osu when they played ou and would say that kelvin sampson was a much better coach and that coach Sutton should try to run his program more like kelvin...like i said, this is not a second hand story....i heard it myself, he has always hated the men’s basketball success.... he said in a staff meeting that getting to a final four was not that hard and that it was easier to do that than win a national championship in golf.....a staff member was soon fired after he disagreed with him on his stupid point....holder has always had it out for the Suttons, he took away 48 tickets from the osu basketball legacy fund that helps raise money for the basketball program and would not give Sean money to do improvements in the locker rooms and other areas while going crazy spending money on football.....he flat out told Sean to talk to t. boone about getting rid of flowers and brown....boone and holder told him to get rid of them and do the right thing because you have a contract with us that we will honor and stand behind you and give you time to build your program with the players that you want.....mike holder rarely went to practices and rarely went to games....matter of fact he left the osu vs. ut game last year(that we got nominated for an espy) before the game went into over time to make sure that he got his good nights sleep (some ad supporting what some called the game of the year)....this is not the first time that holder has pulled selfish tricks either, at his golf course he sent one of the people on the grounds crew off to train under another superintendent and then brought him back once his training was done and fired the old superintendent (which is no big deal if that was his wishes, other that he lied about it and said that what not what his intentions were)....he also use to say derogatory things about karsten manufacturing and their family when they were not able to fork over big donations like the use to and said that it really didn't matter because he had a new ace in the hole (guess who)....he also use to use karsten creek to help enhance the pay of athletic department staff.....i am glad that Sean does not have to answer to holder any more and i know that he will be better off in the long run.....one last thing....holder is just a successful golf coach who is friends with a billionaire....he knows very little about being an ad but has been given the role because of his fundraising prowess, which i must admit is quite amazing....between he and boone they know how to find every loop and shady way of doing business to make money.....that must be why 6 of the board of regents and a football coach are a member of the pickens hedge fund.....if you are in the circle then you are in....it is a shame that osu did not stand behind they family that helped give so much to the university, but then again, i would not expect much less from holder...

Moeller got the boot because the performance of his o-line was terrible. Pretty credible source.

Time will tell if its a good hire, it always does. People were reacting like this when OU hired Capel and he turned out well. Remember when Texas A&M hired Coach Fran to take the football team to new heights? That sure didn't work and he was supposed to be a great hire! Remember that guy that OU hired for football that had no head coaching experience at all? I think his name was Stoops, wasn't it? He's doing alright. The point is that no one has any idea how good or bad this guy might be. We'll know in a few years when we've seen what he's done.

Share the link to a story, Richard. I do not care what you heard from bob through mike by way of alan who happened to be walking past them. Provide a published quote.

Who in the Hell is Travis Ford? Is Holder on dope? Sounds like they didn't plan their list very carefully!

Chuck Moeller, Barry. He was the OL coach... That's one!

Simple! Holder was JUST the Golf Coach... right, Barry? Yours must be a simple world, huh Barry? LOL!

Welcome Coach. I'm a Sooner fan, but I want to wish you the best of luck taking over a very good tradition of talent at OSU. We look forward to continued bedlam shootouts and of course, relishing when OU defeats a good program, and a good coach. Again, welcome and we hope your tenure in Oklahoma is long and rewarding.

third tier university and third tier basketball and football job

Richard, you need to look up the word specious. Your vitriol is exactly that. You purport to have the inside knowledge but you constantly prove to all readers here that you know absolutely nothing. Holder was the golf coach and was not even part of the selection committee for Koetter or Miles. HE WAS THE GOLF COACH for Pete's sake. Holder was hired in SEPTEMBER 2005. Gundy was hired in JANUARY 2005. Do you understand the basic concept of time or a calendar???? I defy you to provide one source for your spurious statements. You can not because that is your opinion because you do not like the fact Sean Sutton was fired. The only difference between you and Danny is Danny is at least upfront about his allegiances. You claim to be an OSU fan but it is apparent you are not.

Danny, if you recall, I never said they were going to get ANYBODY. I never made one prediction, not one. I provided input about the names that were splayed about by the media but never said we WILL get anybody. I am as logical a fan as you will even find which is why I was so adamant about getting rid of Sutton. I understand where we are (despite the hire, we are still a poor team). This guy has a track record of taking bad teams and reaching pinacles they have never reached or have not reached in years. That is EXACTLY what our program needs. We are down and guys like you come crawling out of the woodwork like slugs because it is the only opportunity for you to feel good about yourself. You live vicariously through others and you attempt to demean that which you do not understand. I feel sorry for you. Seriously. You are one disturbed individual. Regardless, this guy will turn things around. Am I predicting Final Four? No. Am I predicting tournaments? Absolutely. This guy has the mettle to make lemonade out of lemons. But this time he actually has a foundation to work with instead of they types of ball players he has had before. And, once again, Danny, you get bashed because you write some of the dumbest things to have ever been put to paper (figuratively) and do nothing but try to insult the program. As for my posts, I contradict people because they, like you, prefer to look only at data that supports their position or speak illogically from compassion as opposed to common sense or logic. But, despite your belief that this is some sort of 1980's slam book or a bathroom wall, my providing a point of view and others providing a point of view is what this board is all about. Much like your "stupid wave thing". That is YOUR OPINION. It does not provide any useful commentary or contribute to discussion but is your pathetic attempt at ridicule. You obviously need to go back to school and understand how to communicate.

Mr. Ford is considered an up and comer coach. If he is very successful at OSU, you can bet that other major schools will be after him, and the possibility of him leaving would be possible. He has improved each team he has coached and it is expected that he will have better players at OSU. Look at OU's coach for example, his record wasn't good, but he hasn't recruited his type of player. It looks to me like a great hire. All the critics should go down and root for OU, as they need some fans at their games.

Barry, you are a simpleton my friend. Boone said he was going to buy Mile contract out to get rid of him if he hadn't taken the LSU job. Holder championed Gundy for the job when Koetter was hired then again when they hired Miles. Gundy was forced on Miles by the Holder/Pickens camp. That's harsh reality.

"Six losing seasons out of eleven as a head coach. What are they thinking of?" -
tom, Lawton Gundy, tom, Gundy. It ain't about winning games, tom. It's about being the man's boy.

itmustsucktobeou--people do they wave in hopes that you will dissapear.......forever.

Now IS the time for us to all come together. Boone's having a open house in his suite followed by a BBQ at Holder's house tommorrow just to show the faithfull they really care about what you think. Eveyone's welcome.

Six losing seasons out of eleven as a head coach. What are they thinking of?

I wonder if coach Ford already knows that stupid wave thing yet? What exactly does that wave mean anyway? goodbye? Maybe I just dont get it, is it part of that great cowboy tradition?

Barry has a potty mouth folks.

Barry, every time someone says something negative about the good ole osu, you attack them! Newsflash Barry, not everyone likes osu. Why do you contradict people when anyone put up a % or says anything for that matter? My dear friend Barry! The very thing that I have been getting bashed for, has happened at osu, they went out and found a decent coach, now Barry dont you feel like a big ole dumb-cowboy for calling me all those names? I told you osu was not a powerhouse in basketball, I told you osu's so called tradition died out when the school changed its name. I told you all of these things Barry. Now Barry, since osu has came back to the level of OU, the playing field is all even!