Barry you sure are hateful

You're due for one.. It's supposed to bedlam..
You're at home this year, Maybe "The Man" can get
his BOYS to tackle.. If not, you'll have to wait another 2 yrs for a legitimate shot.

Holder is not a dumb man. Even though some people think he is cause he fired Sean Sutton. I am sure Holder talked with many coaches around the league about Ford. Realistically, it would be hard to get a coach to leave a mid major team that recently went to the dance just to come and rebuilt again. A coach that has built so much up for a mid major team should be seeking a national title or at least a final four bid in order to make his value sky rocket. I think Ford was a valid choice. I will give him 4 years. In the mean time, OU fans beware. Gundy is going to sneak up on you and steal one.

Lee Harvey Oswald told me exactly how he shot Kennedy, who hired him, and why. I was on the the phone with Princess Diana when she got killed. The Bilderbergers dropped me an email about how the New World Order is progressing. I witnessed Freemasons perform satanic rituals. I watched a guy drop the plunger that set off a series of explosions which brought down the World Trade Center. I am a billionaire and Salma Hayek comes over late on Wednesdays. Anonymity is such a license for spewing rumors. OK "Holder" back it up. If you are so highly placed and know it all, provide something other than an anonymous blog. Thought so.

This just goes to show that mike holder was out for Sean Sutton's job the whole time....There was no way a quality coach is going to get mixed up answering to boone pickens, uhhmmm, i mean mike holder....Don't let him fool you folks, i personally heard mike holder say that he did not think much of Eddie Sutton while he was the head coach at osu and that he has not done half as much as holder has for the university....he said that he was a sorry man and basketball coach....he also use to bet against osu when they played ou and would say that kelvin sampson was a much better coach and that coach Sutton should try to run his program more like kelvin...like i said, this is not a second hand story....i heard it myself, he has always hated the men’s basketball success.... he said in a staff meeting that getting to a final four was not that hard and that it was easier to do that than win a national championship in golf.....a staff member was soon fired after he disagreed with him on his stupid point....holder has always had it out for the Suttons, he took away 48 tickets from the osu basketball legacy fund that helps raise money for the basketball program and would not give Sean money to do improvements in the locker rooms and other areas while going crazy spending money on football.....he flat out told Sean to talk to t. boone about getting rid of flowers and brown....boone and holder told him to get rid of them and do the right thing because you have a contract with us that we will honor and stand behind you and give you time to build your program with the players that you want.....mike holder rarely went to practices and rarely went to games....matter of fact he left the osu vs. ut game last year(that we got nominated for an espy) before the game went into over time to make sure that he got his good nights sleep (some ad supporting what some called the game of the year)....this is not the first time that holder has pulled selfish tricks either, at his golf course he sent one of the people on the grounds crew off to train under another superintendent and then brought him back once his training was done and fired the old superintendent (which is no big deal if that was his wishes, other that he lied about it and said that what not what his intentions were)....he also use to say derogatory things about karsten manufacturing and their family when they were not able to fork over big donations like the use to and said that it really didn't matter because he had a new ace in the hole (guess who)....he also use to use karsten creek to help enhance the pay of athletic department staff.....i am glad that Sean does not have to answer to holder any more and i know that he will be better off in the long run.....one last thing....holder is just a successful golf coach who is friends with a billionaire....he knows very little about being an ad but has been given the role because of his fundraising prowess, which i must admit is quite amazing....between he and boone they know how to find every loop and shady way of doing business to make money.....that must be why 6 of the board of regents and a football coach are a member of the pickens hedge fund.....if you are in the circle then you are in....it is a shame that osu did not stand behind they family that helped give so much to the university, but then again, i would not expect much less from holder...

Moeller got the boot because the performance of his o-line was terrible. Pretty credible source.

Time will tell if its a good hire, it always does. People were reacting like this when OU hired Capel and he turned out well. Remember when Texas A&M hired Coach Fran to take the football team to new heights? That sure didn't work and he was supposed to be a great hire! Remember that guy that OU hired for football that had no head coaching experience at all? I think his name was Stoops, wasn't it? He's doing alright. The point is that no one has any idea how good or bad this guy might be. We'll know in a few years when we've seen what he's done.

Share the link to a story, Richard. I do not care what you heard from bob through mike by way of alan who happened to be walking past them. Provide a published quote.

Who in the Hell is Travis Ford? Is Holder on dope? Sounds like they didn't plan their list very carefully!

Chuck Moeller, Barry. He was the OL coach... That's one!

Simple! Holder was JUST the Golf Coach... right, Barry? Yours must be a simple world, huh Barry? LOL!

Welcome Coach. I'm a Sooner fan, but I want to wish you the best of luck taking over a very good tradition of talent at OSU. We look forward to continued bedlam shootouts and of course, relishing when OU defeats a good program, and a good coach. Again, welcome and we hope your tenure in Oklahoma is long and rewarding.

third tier university and third tier basketball and football job

Richard, you need to look up the word specious. Your vitriol is exactly that. You purport to have the inside knowledge but you constantly prove to all readers here that you know absolutely nothing. Holder was the golf coach and was not even part of the selection committee for Koetter or Miles. HE WAS THE GOLF COACH for Pete's sake. Holder was hired in SEPTEMBER 2005. Gundy was hired in JANUARY 2005. Do you understand the basic concept of time or a calendar???? I defy you to provide one source for your spurious statements. You can not because that is your opinion because you do not like the fact Sean Sutton was fired. The only difference between you and Danny is Danny is at least upfront about his allegiances. You claim to be an OSU fan but it is apparent you are not.

Danny, if you recall, I never said they were going to get ANYBODY. I never made one prediction, not one. I provided input about the names that were splayed about by the media but never said we WILL get anybody. I am as logical a fan as you will even find which is why I was so adamant about getting rid of Sutton. I understand where we are (despite the hire, we are still a poor team). This guy has a track record of taking bad teams and reaching pinacles they have never reached or have not reached in years. That is EXACTLY what our program needs. We are down and guys like you come crawling out of the woodwork like slugs because it is the only opportunity for you to feel good about yourself. You live vicariously through others and you attempt to demean that which you do not understand. I feel sorry for you. Seriously. You are one disturbed individual. Regardless, this guy will turn things around. Am I predicting Final Four? No. Am I predicting tournaments? Absolutely. This guy has the mettle to make lemonade out of lemons. But this time he actually has a foundation to work with instead of they types of ball players he has had before. And, once again, Danny, you get bashed because you write some of the dumbest things to have ever been put to paper (figuratively) and do nothing but try to insult the program. As for my posts, I contradict people because they, like you, prefer to look only at data that supports their position or speak illogically from compassion as opposed to common sense or logic. But, despite your belief that this is some sort of 1980's slam book or a bathroom wall, my providing a point of view and others providing a point of view is what this board is all about. Much like your "stupid wave thing". That is YOUR OPINION. It does not provide any useful commentary or contribute to discussion but is your pathetic attempt at ridicule. You obviously need to go back to school and understand how to communicate.

Mr. Ford is considered an up and comer coach. If he is very successful at OSU, you can bet that other major schools will be after him, and the possibility of him leaving would be possible. He has improved each team he has coached and it is expected that he will have better players at OSU. Look at OU's coach for example, his record wasn't good, but he hasn't recruited his type of player. It looks to me like a great hire. All the critics should go down and root for OU, as they need some fans at their games.

Barry, you are a simpleton my friend. Boone said he was going to buy Mile contract out to get rid of him if he hadn't taken the LSU job. Holder championed Gundy for the job when Koetter was hired then again when they hired Miles. Gundy was forced on Miles by the Holder/Pickens camp. That's harsh reality.

"Six losing seasons out of eleven as a head coach. What are they thinking of?" -
tom, Lawton Gundy, tom, Gundy. It ain't about winning games, tom. It's about being the man's boy.

itmustsucktobeou--people do they wave in hopes that you will dissapear.......forever.

Now IS the time for us to all come together. Boone's having a open house in his suite followed by a BBQ at Holder's house tommorrow just to show the faithfull they really care about what you think. Eveyone's welcome.

Six losing seasons out of eleven as a head coach. What are they thinking of?

I wonder if coach Ford already knows that stupid wave thing yet? What exactly does that wave mean anyway? goodbye? Maybe I just dont get it, is it part of that great cowboy tradition?

Barry has a potty mouth folks.

Barry, every time someone says something negative about the good ole osu, you attack them! Newsflash Barry, not everyone likes osu. Why do you contradict people when anyone put up a % or says anything for that matter? My dear friend Barry! The very thing that I have been getting bashed for, has happened at osu, they went out and found a decent coach, now Barry dont you feel like a big ole dumb-cowboy for calling me all those names? I told you osu was not a powerhouse in basketball, I told you osu's so called tradition died out when the school changed its name. I told you all of these things Barry. Now Barry, since osu has came back to the level of OU, the playing field is all even!

Barry, every time someone says something negative about the good ole osu, you attack them! Newsflash Barry, not everyone likes osu. Why do you contradict people when anyone put up a % or says anything for that matter? My dear friend Barry! The very thing that I have been getting bashed for, has happened at osu, they went out and found a decent coach, now Barry dont you feel like a big ole dumb-cowboy for calling me all those names? I told you osu was not a powerhouse in basketball, I told you osu's so called tradition died out when the school changed its name. I told you all of these things Barry. Now Barry, since osu has came back to the level of OU, the playing field is all even!

wow that didn't go well.

Maybe Corey Williams would come back now.... Is it too late for Kenny to transfer back? What about Roderick Flemings and Torre Johnson? Do they have Now that sweaty is gone,

Time for a little reality check for all you complainers. We have no idea who Holder talked to and will likely never know. What we do know is this: 1) Bill Self turned us down; 2) Tony Bennett turned us down; 3)We talked to Chris Lowery and he may or may not have turned us down. We have no idea who else, but Holder does. Has anyone stopped to think maybe this was the best option left? Ford turned Providence down and he talked to LSU, a program comparable to ours. Obviously, Holder wasn't the only one to see something in him. Ford had three years at UMass and had a 62-35 record. Bill Self's record his first three years at ORU? 34-47. You think KU would have wanted him at that point?

Good hire or not, the future will answer. The question I am asking is what's the heck is going on with the hiring direction? Say that you have an job opening and you want to fill it with the best person. Last week, you think the best person for the job is a 20 year experienced engineer with multiple PhD degrees. This week, the best person for the same job is a guy just get out of school with his BS degree hasn't been framed yet... What changes????

David from LV: Mr. Iba would LOVE this hire. When he was hired in 1935, his head coaching experience was at Marysville State Teachers College! Not exactly "high profile". He did alright, though. BTW, I grew up in Stillwater and was the same age as his son, Moe. I knew Mr. Iba personally, I can assure you he WOULD have backed this move, completely.

Richard, you are a moron! Les Miles is a scumbag that dumped on his team in the middle of bowl preparations. He couldn't wait to jump in bed with LSU. I'm really glad that that SOB is gone, LSU can have him. If you remember (obviously you don't) when he came to OSU he said it was the only job he wanted. Yeah, right! He was another "stepping-stone" coach. Gundy will produce a winner and actually STAY at OSU.

I agree with OSU fan, Tulsa, at lease the first and last two sentences -- The OSU faithful has to pull together and support the team, coach and program. Tradition is our backbone -- Now let us hope Coach Ford gives it legs! Go Cowboys!

This Travis Ford hire is aa disgrace to the program at OSU. I am sure Mr. IBA is spinning in his grave. Mike Holder has been a HUGE disappointment as a AD. This has become worst hire since Guy Strong. I am not really sure how we improved our program except for the fact that Ford is a "snappy dresser" and has a demeanor different than Sean. I would agree that Bill Self was a great candidate but we should have hired him before KU did. Time will tell but I have lost the Faith. I guess I can always root for OU or at least KU. I hope this doesn't set the program back 15 years. All Ford has proven is that he can win in the NIT. I guess that is what he have become. I hope Eddie erases his name off of Gallagher Hall floor.

What happened to T Boone's money enticing a big name coach? This is a very questionable hire.

I hope this is a good hire.....I say give him 2 years. If it don't work out, then Holder should resign.

How can anyone compare Ford's winning percentage to that of Sutton. The Big 12 is actually an conference and they don't have Xavier as their conference champion every year. I will admit Xavier was a great team this year. However, for the money that was discussed with Self at least half of that could have been used to induce a coach that has proven he can make it to the NCAA Tournament consistently. The campus is in disblief with the hire and the excitement of a big name coming last week is now gloom and doom of another wonderful srewup of the hated MIKE HOLDER. Not only is he a jerk to every student and faculty on campus, he has successfully turned a profitable venture of Men's Basketball into the laughing stock of Oklahoma. Thank you Coach Holder and Boone. Money gets us great coaches doesn't it?

I don't see the point of complaining, what's the point? It does raise a couple of questions though. If, in fact, Ford brings our program back to prominence, will this be a stepping stone position? And how much time will he be allotted to show his ability to be successful? I'm just curious if, because this is Holder's hire, he will be given more time. I support the hire. Hopefully this will be the beginning of a new era. Good luck Coach Ford!

You guys are pathetic. If you can not recognize a coach capable of turning around a team and being successful, you know nothing about basketball and definitely have absolutely no tangible grasp on where our program already is at after the past several years.

Well, at least OSU now recognizes that its a bonafide third tier program.

Ford was 71% over the same period Sean was HC. 1 or 2 in his conference with a cast of nobodies. Good hire. Not a big name that many hoped for, but a good hire.

Richard, would stop with that chase off Miles crp? Miles left before Holder came on board as AD and a year before TBP made his presence known. Miles left OSU for LSU just the same way every single other coach would do. You know this but continually ride the same lame horse hoping someone will believe you.

Sean was a 58% Travis Ford is 62%. Not a whole lot of difference in percentage. It'll be another "wait til next year season" next year for the cowboys. CRAP!

At least Boone and Holder are consistant. Chase off Miles and embrace Gundy. Chase off the Sutton's and hire Ford. I wonder if John Smith is looking over his shoulder right now? If not, perhaps he should. I understand there's a lot of .500 wrestling coaches out there that would make the take-over and purge a perfect trifecta.

Hmmmm....Not a homerun hire, but he made a terrible E. Kentucky team good, left and made bad UMASS team good, now he has left again. Will he do the same to OSU? I hope so.