An accountant who has owned his own firm for more than four decades, he oversees branches in Enid and Fairview. He meets with clients. He manages employees.
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But these past few weeks, he has poured himself into a side project.
Coming up with a name for OKC's NBA team.
"It has to be something positive,” Wymer said.
Count him among the legions of Oklahomans who are moonlighting as marketers.
Nickname fever is sweeping the state, and no one is immune. With the impending arrival of Oklahoma's first major-league sports franchise — one that's leaving its name, colors and history behind — folks from Guymon to Gotebo are talking about what the team should be called.
Who among us hasn't thought about it, talked about it, debated about it?
This has become fodder for the casual observer every bit as much as the hard-core fan. The debate is just as likely to rage in a Sunday school class as at the local watering hole.
Heck, the obsession extends to The Oklahoman. Our fair newspaper conducted a 64-name bracket competition within hours of the relocation vote, and even though we've told all of you that we have no sway in the naming, you still keep calling and writing with your suggestions.
Oklahomans are obsessed.
Why?
Why are we so fascinated by the name? Why are we so invested in the outcome?
"People are very proud that this team is coming to Oklahoma,” Bob Blackburn said. "The name is very important.”
Blackburn isn't a sports guy, but he has studied the state's history for decades. The executive director of the Oklahoma Historical Society believes that Oklahomans are proud people but that their pride hasn't always extended to the state as a whole.
We've been proud of individuals such as Will Rogers, Mickey Mantle and Garth Brooks. We've been proud of our hometown or our heritage.
"There's a bit of a lack of pride in the general history,” Blackburn said.
That inferiority dates back to the Dust Bowl, the poverty that it wrought and the shame that it left. Those same issues surfaced again during the oil bust.
But in this NBA team, people see a symbol of progress, a sign of the good times.
"This basketball team is one of the crown jewels that we're all wearing around,” Blackburn said.
Oklahomans want a name befitting such a gem.
On that, there is consensus.
What we can't seem to agree on, though, is exactly what that perfect nickname is.
Over the past few months, Toby Rowland has taken hundreds of calls about the team name on his sports talk show on KREF. The first wave came a couple months ago when it looked like Clay Bennett and Co. would leave the Sonics nickname in Seattle.
"That's all we talked about on the radio show for it seemed like forever,” Rowland said.
Some were serious, and some were absurd. Callers suggested wacky nicknames like Weathermen and Vortex, and everyone got a good laugh out of it.
But then, folks in other parts of the country started throwing out equally goofy nicknames and the tenor changed.
"People started curling up — ‘Oh, yeah? You want to fight about it?' ” Rowland said. "It's kind of like the old adage about, ‘I can say whatever I want about my family, but you'd better not.' ”
The mood has changed again in recent weeks.
"Everybody's nervous now,” said Rowland, also the weekend sports anchor on KWTV News9. "People are just afraid of how it might be perceived.
"I bet when Sooners was announced, it seemed pretty silly. I bet when Hoosiers was announced, it seemed pretty silly. But it became part of the lexicon over time.”
Rowland chuckled.
"If you think about it, they're all silly.”
That's what Deane Wymer had started to believe. The accountant from Fairview made a list of nicknames, and even though he had almost two dozen, none suited him.
One after another, he crossed names off the list. A few, such as Okies, were even names he liked.
"We may take pride in being Okies,” Wymer said, "but that's not the image we want to portray to the rest of the world. That name's anything but positive to the rest of the world.”
Wymer had nearly given up his search for the perfect name. Then this week, he was thinking about the state's aeronautical history from the early days of Will Rogers and Wiley Post to the current days of astronauts, and that's when he hit on his nickname suggestion.
Orbits.
"It seemed it was a logical, positive image,” he said. "It has to be something positive.”
That seems to be about the only thing Oklahomans can agree on when it comes to the nickname fever that's sweeping the state.
Editors note: Deane Wymer was incorrectly identified as a certified public accountant
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I'm from MN where our MLS team is the Thunder. I'm so tired of singular team names, and this one is rather genereic. If you want a weather related name go with Twisters (though that sounds very high school/minor league). I was looking at the 64 name bracket that fans voted on (which Thunder won), and the three names that stood out to me were Outlaws, Bandits and Renegades. I like Renegades. It's tough without being overtly negative, and acutally has a chance of being approved by the NBA. The logo/mascot could be a cowboy with a bandana over the lower half of his face. Suggested colors of crimson, black and gold. But what does a MN native know about OK?
the THUNDERBIRDS would be the ultimate name for our team. it would represent our Veterans and our Native Americans of our great state. also when you say THUNDERBIRDS, hear THUNDERBIRDS, and see THUNDERBIRDS you would be excited and honored that this is a great name and would be a valuable and honorable name for all OKLAHOMANS. plus the colors and the emblem of our great 45th will be known by all of what it means and what it stands for. Jenni darling there should no argument on this name,even your co-worker Barry is also for the THUNDERBIRDS. i agree with Wymer we ought to have a name we would proud of and THUNDERBIRDS would fit that bill. great article Jenni
Well I want to say what ever you name the tame, make sure the entire state is included. Example,even though all major league teams in Minnesota, are in the Twin Cities, they are all called Minnesota Vikings, Twins, Wild and Timberwolves and the residents throughout the state support them. Sometimes when picking a name for something it can be obvious. Oklahoma has great mountains but alot of faith based schools, so how about the Oklahoma Ministers and cheerleaders, the Preacher's Wives or since the state is "Native America" like the Oklahoma Shaman ,something that reflects that Heritage. Oklahoma City is an awesome city as well as Tulsa, but Oklahoma is an even greater state. But I'll give the team my personal favorite: the OKC Oklahomans!!!!!!!!!!!
Thomas, I was just respectfully requesting that you not use the same nickname as our WHL club. I know I know, Indian Territory, put you folks behind until you were the 46th state. Honestly, though, now that I think about it... Oklahoma City Thunderbirds... That'd be kinda cool. I would still hate them, though.
Tu is here! The oklahoma city dirt, the oklahoma city stalkers, the oklahoma city psych meds, the oklahoma city klan, the oklahoma city domestic violence
Jesus I am not Native American, however that name was not even to be associated with a team of any kind from Seattle, if you did not know Oklahoma is Native America. So quit the pissing and moaning about how OKC took your team. The owners are from OKC but correct me if I am wrong here. Mayor Nickles the mayor of Seattle signed off on a deal that could bring Seattle as much as $75 million dollars.
Please, not the Thunderbirds. It's the name of Seattle's major-junior hockey league team, and it'd be a little rude to rub it in our face seeing as you've already taken our NBA team. .. Just remember: Don't give your major league team a minor league name!!!! (not that Thunderbirds is a minor league name, but RedHawks is, amongst others)
Good idea Edward!!! This can only backfire if the team is not a winner, as I can already see all the negative post from people outside of OK, especially from Seattle.....
Here is an Idea from the Husker Nation: To get statewide support as well as showing state pride, this may sound like copying the NFL Houston Texans. So why not the Oklahoma City Oklahomans ? Maybe the name in the team will gather statewide pride, especially if the outstate areas beyond OKC and Tulsa had no ties to Oil or Banking/Finance. Besides a play on he name of the OKC paper, The Daily Oklahoman !!!
"My way of looking at it is pertinent in the way you are trying to spin this."...I "spun" it your way Patrick, just to help you along a little bit. Considering using your spin, Texas would have to cover over half the land mass of the entire United States, PLUS not produce one more drop than they do now, and STILL it would just be a break even for Okie. There, you satisfied? I did it your way, just to show you how fair I am. I also broke it down to percentage per square mile if you'd like those numbers....
I almost wish the team would go ahead and announce a nickname just so all this speculation will end. I do hope it isn't something lame, though. Orbits is just terrible. The name should be appropriate to Oklanboma, but not so specific that people outside the state wouldn't understand it, so 89ers wouldn't do. And not many people who live outside Tornado Alley know what a supercell is. Wranglers, Outlaws, Twisters and Thunder would all be fine. Barrons I could live with, although it isn't my favorite. My first choice is still Thunderbirds, although it probably isn't an option because it is already taken by Albuquerque's NDBL team.
Just did some research Patrick. Texas accounts for more than 25%, and has a square mile size of 268,601. Okie is 3.3%, and 68,656 sq miles. Since 3.3 goes into 25 7.7 times, Texas would have to be 2,033,378 square miles for Okie to be equal to them. So much for your "spin" eh??
someone please film Paul getting taken to the woodshed. I'm out of town and can't witness it first hand. Of course I'm assuming that he really lives here and has the peaches to show. Big stretch on both.
someone please film Paul getting taken to the woodshed. I'm out of town and can't witness it first hand. Of course I'm assuming that he really lives here and has the peaches to show. Big stretch on both.
Little man syndrome Paul? You are a classic case of little man syndrome. Tell you what Paul, meet me at 0700 tomorrow at the Eaker gate at Tinker and we'll see who the bigger man is. My way of looking at it is pertinent in the way you are trying to spin this. You are forever trying to illustrate how inferior Oklahoma is compared to other states. What I'm saying is, I'm betting we get as much or more oil/gas per acre as any other state, that's all. Deal with it. Whether you like it or not, this state has a rich oil & gas history and those of us that are natives of the state relate to that and are proud of it. Of course, that just gives you all the more pleasure in trying to stomp on it. Just the fact that you do get so much pleasure out of trashing and offending this state just shows how much of a truly "little man" you are. Enjoy your miserable life Paul. I'm through responding to your garbage.
Don't you guys know that your beloved Tramel doesn't want you posting here in message boards? That guy is an idiot. I suppose he wants the 5th amendment revoked as well.
Patrick...break it down to oil per square inch, square foot, square yard, whatever you like..the bottom line is that it's 3.3%..thats it Philip, 3.3%. Thats not twisting it to suit my needs, thats plain old fact, and now you try and twist the fact it is only 3.3% by saying.."well, lets adjust it like this"..it doesn't matter, 3.3% is just that..deal with it, it's a small drop in the bucket and will never amount to more. If you noted, they say Okies share is declining, which I decided to leave out until you took offense...what a "little man" syndrome you have....
As usual Paul, you are manipulating your statistics to try and prove a point. According to this source..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil-producing_states#North_America..Oklahoma is the 5th largest producing state in the US and the ones that are ahead of Oklahoma are all much larger states and/or they have offshore production associated with them. And according to this source...http://igs.indiana.edu/survey/projects/energy_report/images/natgas_prod_objects/natgas_prod_album/pages/3113122_U_S_%20Natural%20Gas%20Production%20by%20State,%202005_png.htm...Oklahoma is the fourth leading producer of natural gas. Again, Texas and Alaska are much larger states. Since you love statistics so much, why don't you find out which state produces the most compared to size, e.g., which produces the most oil & gas per acre, square mile, etc? Oh yeah, you wouldn't want to do that because it might not support your position.
In another article, the NBA states it usually takes almost 2 years to come up with a nickname, logo and team colors, although the process is being condensed down to 3 months for OKC. Seattle was only allowed 6 months to approve the design/location/funding of a brand new arena. The time frames seem really out of whack to me .. Aviators or Pilots sound good to me ...
Yeah you know the more I think of it, Oklahoma City Aviators is a no brainer! You got Will Rogers and Wiley Post who were significant role players in Oklahoma's history. Plus it just sounds darn good! There's an image out there of Sonic the Hedgehog dressed up like a pilot, red, white and blue that would be great on the front of the jersey. Plus it takes care of the mascot issue too! Plus hey! Sonics, Aviators, high flying basketball and Seattle could keep a little piece of their team while transitioning to OKC. Sometimes I amaze myself, but Oklahoma City Aviators is just a stroke of genius.
.......89ers!! Let's hope the citizens of Oklahoma don't have to wait for Sterns approval. He'll tweak some East Coast heritage to it because that's all he cares about. Let's hope he gets "canned" SOON.
There's a really good idea at http://www.okcheroes.com . There is a link to some themes songs - Chad Kroger's version from the Spiderman movie is my favorite. I think the idea could benefit from some graphics guru to come up with a logo, though.
I think yall are missing the boat. The Oklahoma City "Slickers" is perfect. At least to me. If not that then bring back the 89ers. Oklahoma City "89ers", I hate the redhawks and I have never seen one in Oklahoma. lol
"If it weren't for Oklahoma being able to play such a role in domestic production, prices would be even higher."...Please..this state accounts for a mere 3.3% of oil.>>The state produces 3.3 percent of the nation's crude and 8.8 percent of the natural gas in the U.S.>> And the link as proof:http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20070305/ai_n18724702
Shouldn't the headline read-"Possessed"?? Once again the Oklahoman is desperate to fill headlines. The fans in OKC are smart-they don't need the paper manufacturing "news."
This is a late submission, but I would like to submit the name Oklahoma Frontier. Please forward to the appropriate person(s) for me unless it is already under debate. Thank you.
Wow there are some really bad names floating around. If you go along the "Boom" line of thinking, then naturally they should be called "Boomers" for the run of '89 as well as current day oil boom.
I still like Stallions tho...just cuz I like horsies.
Ah, the Tulsa Roughnecks were a major league sports franchise soccer team. Since they no longer exist, feel free to call your team the Oklahoma City Roughnecks.
How about the OKC BOOM. It could be left open to interpret as related to oil, pioneers, aviation, weather- covers all the bases. Also built in "Boom there it is" theme song.
I just love people taking time to read an article and post here just to say that everyone else reading the article and thinking about the name is stupid. If it doesn't interest you then don't read the article or waste your precious time complaining about other people worrying about it.
Aviators is kind of cool and way better than Orbits and a lot of the other names you see floated out there, but it's sort of the same theme as the Sonics and you have to think they are going to want to make a clean break from that.
my wife likes the 'stampede' and even though it does not end with the magical "s" it has a ring to it for me. But, really as long as it is not somehting that sounds like a AFL2 team, who cares?
OKC Tinkers would be great until they shut down the air force base. OKC Cessnas would be great until the Cessna is obsolete. Oklahoma Taxbreaks because Cornett will surely give the new team a taxbreak. Or the Oklahoma City Callcenters because of all the call centers here. OKC fake rivers. The best would be something weather-related.
The Romans got it right: we masses want bread and circuses. We've finally got our very own circus, so it's fun to speculate on a name. Also, we've heard so many bad ones, that it behooves us to be a little worried. The NBA has not shown itself to be as much of an arbiter of good taste as I might have expected: Magic, Wizards, Heat??? I wouldn't have been very excited about any of those. Aviators is kind of cool, and is growing on me. In Dallas we would have the Mavs, and here we would have the Avs.
Jill, www.okcthunderfans.com - Jul 16, 2008 8:42 AM
Orbits would probably be the lamest name in the NBA. Let's go with something that really reflects our state's history rather than planes. I think something relating to oil & gas is more fitting for the state. Who cares if it's not a "good time" to have a name dealing with that... If it weren't for Oklahoma being able to play such a role in domestic production, prices would be even higher.
Gas prices suck, our economy is fragile, classmates at my University are getting arrested for stealing makeup and putting a black eye on my school, I am worried about how to pay for bills with the increase in food prices and gasoline, It's 8:12 in the morning and I don't want to be out of bed. If I want to get excited about one of the few positives going on in this world, I will. *gets off soapbox*
"This story says it all, heck what else is there to talk about or do in this state but be obsessed about naming the incoming NBA team? To think that is what we worry about here in oklahoma...what other people in the country think about the name of our new NBA team. The Rockets, the Sonics, the Lakers, the Magic....oooh wow, that is what I concern and obsess my self with most of the time..the name of another city's NBA team! PLEASE! NO BODY GIVES A CRAP...It's just entertainment people!"
Yet you found the time to not only read this article, but to also comment on it.
Lighten up Albert. It's all in good fun. If people want a little escape from the everday problems of the world to think about and discuss the new NBA team, what's the harm? Seriously, I don't understand all you joykillers. If you aren't interested or just flat don't like the whole NBA-coming-to-OKC thing, fine. STAY AWAY.
Excellent theme Oklahoma's rich aeronautical history! Along those lines I've thought of a few others. Oklahoma City Aviators! Oklahoma City Tinkers! Finally, I'm kind of proud of this one! Are you sitting down? Oklahoma City Cessnas! Indigenous to Oklahoma, we could have a flying Cessna jet at about a 45 degree angle on the front of the jersey! For some reason I envision black and white.
This story says it all, heck what else is there to talk about or do in this state but be obsessed about naming the incoming NBA team? To think that is what we worry about here in oklahoma...what other people in the country think about the name of our new NBA team. The Rockets, the Sonics, the Lakers, the Magic....oooh wow, that is what I concern and obsess my self with most of the time..the name of another city's NBA team! PLEASE! NO BODY GIVES A CRAP...It's just entertainment people!
NBA fans' game plan: Be patient Choosing name,... 07/16/2008 Similar to a pregnant woman deluged with questions about what she will name her baby, everyone with interest in Oklahoma City's NBA team wants to know the...
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I still like Stallions tho...just cuz I like horsies.
Yet you found the time to not only read this article, but to also comment on it.
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