“Then I really hurt his feelings. I said, ‘You know, you've gone through pretty well most of your life with your feet on the handle bars.' He said, ‘Well, what do you mean by that?' I said, ‘You figured out how to win at golf, and you just keep doing it over and over again, and it's gotten so it's easy. So, you don't really ever have to pedal. You just get on and everything goes smooth for you.' He said, ‘I didn't have my feet on the handle bars.' I said, ‘Well, you need to be challenged. You need to get a job where you're really challenged.' He said, ‘Well, what are you thinking about?' I said, ‘I'm thinking about you as athletic director. You love the university. You've raised money. You like all the sports. You go to all the games whether golf, football or anything else. You're over there, you and (wife) Robbie are, at everything. You'd be perfect for the job. Now, I've got to convince Dave Schmidly you're perfect for the job, too.'
“Schmidly, he wasn't sure. He needed to do a world-wide search for an athletic director. I said, ‘You'd better think about doing a world-wide search for $300 million.'
“It went down pretty easy.”