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OSU Insider: Defense good, can be better
New mindset: Pokes need more turnovers, fewer third-down conversions

By Brandon Chatmon    Comments Comment on this article31
Published: November 2, 2009



STILLWATERBill Young took over the Oklahoma State defense wanting to change the negative mindset of his players.


First-year OSU defensive coordinator Bill Young has seen progress in the Cowboy defense, but there is still a lot of work to do. PHOTO BY BRYAN TERRY, THE OKLAHOMAN

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The Cowboys’ first-year defensive coordinator has not only changed their mindset from negative to positive, he also changed the results.

Generally thought of as the Pokes’ weak link, the OSU defense has emerged as a strength and possibly the strongest unit on the team.

The Cowboys rank 13th in the nation in rushing defense (99 yards per game), 45th in total defense (342.5 ypg) and 47th in scoring defense (22.63 ppg). And they’ve put up those numbers with a schedule that included games against the national leader in passing offense (Houston), total offense (Houston) and scoring offense (Texas).

Against Texas, the Cowboys allowed just 275 total yards to the Longhorns, their second-lowest output of the season.

Nonetheless, Young feels like his unit has a long way to go. The Pokes allowed just 275 yards in a 41-14 loss to Texas, but the Longhorns only ran 56 offensive plays, averaging 4.9 yards per play.

The Cowboys struggled in two areas that have been a focus since the preseason: turnovers and opponent third-down conversions.

OSU’s stated goal is three turnovers per game, and it entered the Halloween showdown holding opponents to 32.7 third-down conversion percentage.

Against Texas, Victor Johnson’s forced fumble on Jordan Shipley was the Cowboys’ lone forced turnover. And the Longhorns converted five of 12 third-down conversion attempts (41.6 percent).

"We didn’t force enough turnovers, and we didn’t make enough plays,” Young said. "We had them third-and-25 or -30 and let them convert. Those are issues we have to get corrected as a defense.”

Ranking high in both categories is often an indicator of the nation’s elite teams. Texas, ranked No. 2 in the AP poll, ranks first in opponent third-down conversion (23.7). Florida, ranked No. 1 in the AP poll, ranks second in third-down percentage (24.6).

The eight teams ranked fifth or better in turnover margin (three-way tie for fifth) are a combined 46-11 this season, including undefeated Cincinnati, Boise State and Texas.

So while the Cowboys’ defense has made a vast improvement over last year’s unit, it still has a way to go.

"We have nobody to blame but ourselves,” Young said. "Our goal is to outplay our opponent’s defense.”

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Bhavin, good to see an actual OU fan say something about these losers.
Jacob, Kansas - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Jason - Shut the f up... Did u even go to school at OU?? Show some class as OU fan. Guys like you who grew up in hoods and have no connection with school act like a$$ holes. Don't make us (all OU fans) look stupid by making such comments. If you want to make some comments, get on our articles and post your dumb a$$ comments. Leave OSU fans alone.
Bhavin, Oklahoma City - Nov 2, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Gary, you are dreaming buddy. I think the OU fandom has gotten to you. I don't recall anyone saying OSU "had it in the bag" against UT.

I actually predicted we would not beat them.

And no one, I mean no one, said anything about OSU winning a national championship.

Do you enjoy just making things up to try and bulk up that terrible argument of yours?
Jacob, Kansas - Nov 2, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Jason, you have been spending too much time under you goat. UT not the better team? What an idiot you are. The last time Moo U had the best team on the field was against the Grambling band.
Todd, Reno - Nov 2, 2009 at 6:50 pm
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No Sandy. I heard the announcer on national tv comment that there were still tickets available at game time and that it was not an official sellout. And Jacob, read the posts from last week. Not only did the aggies have the Texas game in the bag, they actually thought that they would be playing for a national championship! It's funny to see you respond when your team gets beat, excuse me, whipped like a rented mule. Other than the OSU morons on this site, there is not one national reporter saying that OSU had the better team.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Nov 2, 2009 at 2:09 pm
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Jacob, OU beat the lOSUrs in Stoolwater last year. Oh wait, that's right, you said beat a GOOD team.
Louis Friend, Norman - Nov 2, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Neel from sugarland...that is exactly what I was thinking. There were a few calls he ...as a head coach...should have contested! The stripped ball...the kickoff that bounced off the ut punt reciever. ut was not the better team...osu lost because of coaching and poor mistakes.
Jason, Tulsa - Nov 2, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I was at the game and the only open seats I saw were some club level seats. The bowl of the stadium was jammed with the largest crowd in OSU history. Why the OU idiots feel the need to keep bringing up atttendance is just irrelevant jibberish anyway.

I do agree with Neel's first post that the offense was predictable and lacked much creativity. I know that Okung is a great player, but OSU was extremely left handed in the run game and really has been all year. It was a real disappointing game from the Pokes and it is clear that we still have a ways to go be considered legitimate contenders against UT. If we don't have a good game against the sooners, the same can be said that we have not quite gotten over that hump yet either. No doubt that UT is a better team than OU is though. The pokes need to take care of the next three opponenets and go into Norman on another winning streak and lay it all on the line against our biggest rival. No doubt that UO will be really tough at home, so we will need to be better prepared and have a better gameplan than we did against UT. Go Pokes!
Scott, DFW - Nov 2, 2009 at 1:13 pm
once again i think its time for gundy to give the play calling duties to someone else who can get creative...the third quarter was so predictable it didnt even look like we wanted to get back into the game until it was too late.....there is too much speed and talent on that team to not be running some trickery....Gundy is a great coach just needs to give someone else a chance to call some plays....
Neel, Sugar Land - Nov 2, 2009 at 1:00 pm
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Gary, were you at the game to see how many people were there? I thought so.
SANDY, EDMOND - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:47 am
Gary, telling an OSU fan to stop talking about OU is silly. You have so many loser OU fans posting on here, it is pathetic. I thought you guys don't care about little OSU?
Jacob, Kansas - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:34 am
So many OU trashy loser fans, so little time has passed since OU beat an actual good team.

Trash talk only gets you so far when your own team is 5-3, losers. Yes, I am talking to you Todd the goat humping OU graduate and Jason OKC the best OU bangwagon fan of all time.

By the way, if OSU had beat UT, OU would have still had a shot to win the Big 12 south. Not anymore.

But, don't let logic get in the way of your goat humping (Todd) and general lack of football knowledge (Jason OKC).
Jacob, Kansas - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:31 am
Toad, talk football not shi+.
Jason, Tulsa - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:19 am
James Zero SU can still compete for the national championship in golf and goat humping.
Todd, Reno - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:15 am
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Texas was not the better team this weekend. Our defense controlled their offense...osu's poor offensive turnovers lost the game for us. There were too many mistakes that should not have been made which would have put osu on top of texas.
Jason, Tulsa - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:11 am
Danny. Boy (that was a pun you moron) you sure are obsessed with OU. Can't blame you. They have beaten Texas how many more times than OSU has beaten Texas? And they have how many more conference championships than OSU? And they have how many more Texas teams on their schedule. Keep posting Danny. We still have quite a few games to go. Let's compare records at the end of the season.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Nov 2, 2009 at 11:04 am
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Danny, you are an idiot and a moron. You team is an embarrassment. MOO U should drop football and stick to wrestling and barn yard sports.
Todd, Reno - Nov 2, 2009 at 10:59 am
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Please show me any part of my comment that could be considered sugar-coating or classless.
Travis, OKC - Nov 2, 2009 at 10:12 am
So does this weekend's loss to Texas mean OSU is out of contention for the national championship?
james - Nov 2, 2009 at 10:05 am
OSU has lost to two ranked teams -- Houston (Heisman candidate Keenam) and Texas (#2 in the nation and eventual National Champion).

OU has lost to who?
BYU -- unranked.
Miami -- #17
Texas -- #2

It's got to drive Swooner fans crazy losing 3 so early AND losing to TEXAS AGAIN!!

No wonder Swooner fans are whining and crying.
Oh, yeah. Swooner fans always do that.

Poor Swooners.
Danny, Vail - Nov 2, 2009 at 9:45 am
Bill Young was a great hire.
The Defense is vastly improved but still has a way to go.
Texas had a distinct talent advantage, but the gap is narrowing with the great recruiting Mike Gundy is experiencing.
Swooner idiots like Gary will always crawl out of the woodwork like a roach with the lights off.
Hey, Gary, your Swooners are NOT backdooring their way into a Big 12 Championship this year.
At least we won't have to be embarrassed by another Swooner swoon on the national stage. There's already been enough embarrassing ou swoons on the season already.
How's that 3 loss season working out for you, Gary?

Sooners get Bradford back for ANOTHER chance at redeeming themselves infront of their fans. Bradford passes up $13 million.
Swooners lose Bradford and first game on national stage.
Swooners lose AGAIN to Texas and lose Bradford AGAIN.
Swooners out of Big 12 and BCS race.
Priceless.
Danny, Vail - Nov 2, 2009 at 9:39 am
Hey nice job sugar coating it Classless Travis...let me guess next year OSU is going to be really good right? OSU's defenses sucks ask Houston, who got beat by UTEP. Just a little under a month and you have to face another Div 1 team, this time on the road.

OU 52 OSU 7
Jason, Oklahoma City - Nov 2, 2009 at 9:29 am
Tickets to the game $65. Parking $10. Refreshments $25. Watching a not even full stadium of stunned Aggies sit there as UT puts on an a-whoopin on their team for the 12th straight time. Priceless.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Nov 2, 2009 at 8:44 am
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"Against Texas, Victor Johnson’s forced fumble on Jordan Shipley was the Cowboys’ lone forced turnover."

Well, they did have the Sexton strip completely ignored and taken away. It should have been OSU ball at the 20 instead of a Texas touchdown. So the Shipley fumble was not really the only turnover they caused. If the game would have been close I never would have been able to get over that horrible call. But it wasn't. 4 INT's, a fumble, 2 pick 6's. UT's offense barely had to do anything.
Travis, OKC - Nov 2, 2009 at 8:36 am
We lost 41-14 because we threw 4 INT's, not because our defense was bad. 275 total yards to the nations #1 offense, that's incredible.
Jonah, Guthrie - Nov 2, 2009 at 8:27 am
Ask BYU how good they thouth lOUser's offense was.
Jay, Moore - Nov 2, 2009 at 8:18 am
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Ask Houston how good they thought the lOSUrs defense was.
Louis Friend, Norman - Nov 2, 2009 at 7:32 am
Anytime you rush only 3 or 4 lineman you give the QB too much time to throw the ball. you need to BLITZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
K, midland - Nov 2, 2009 at 6:08 am
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The linebackers and secondary have played pretty well this year, but the d-line has done nothing. Absolute zero pass rush with the front 4. The qb either has all day or we send a blitz and leave our secondary vulnerable. Chinasa is a joke
brad, Tulsa - Nov 2, 2009 at 12:10 am
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cant blame the defense too much although they gave too much cushion but talking to a friend of mine after the game i have to agree with him that gundy may want to let someone else start calling the plays its becoming too predictable and that we lack creativity that came with a offense ran by larry fedora.....but none the less its always great to be a Cowboy fan and alum! Go Pokes!
Neel, Sugar Land - Nov 2, 2009 at 12:08 am
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