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DNA test doesn’t stop Oklahoma man's child support liability
Under state law, fathers can’t question paternity after two years

BY WENDY K. KLEINMAN    Comments Comment on this article21
Published: December 29, 2008

When an Oklahoma man’s ex-wife told him she was pregnant, he asked if he was the father.

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Laws elsewhere
Paternity issues nationally have resulted in court cases and legislative changes. Georgia passed a law in 2002 allowing men to end child support payments if DNA testing proved they were not the father. Since then, courts there have not only allowed men to end their child support responsibilities, but also required women to repay child support they have received.

"She said, ‘Yeah, 100 percent sure you’re the dad,’ so I didn’t question it past that,” the man said.

But that man, who asked to remain anonymous because of pending litigation, says testing shows otherwise. He provided The Oklahoman with a copy of genetic test results dated Nov. 10 from Identigene showing he is not the father. State law, though, compels him to continue paying child support even though he’s not a biological parent — and there are more like him.

Nearly 25 percent of about 3,000 paternity tests conducted by the state Department of Human Services from July 2007 through June ruled out the supposed father as the biological parent. Nationally, that number reaches nearly 30 percent, according to the American Association of Blood Banks.

State limits
DHS only performs genetic testing within the first two years of a child’s life, which is the state limit on contesting paternity.

After the two years, "it comes into the best interests of the child and protecting the child to ensure that there’s a source of reliable support,” said Jeff Wagner, spokesman for the DHS Child Support Enforcement Division.

The child the Oklahoma man pays child support for is nearly 5 years old.

Looking forward
State Rep. Ben Sherrer, D-Choteau, filed a bill last session that would have changed the contest period after hearing from a constituent in a similar situation.

The bill would have given presumed fathers one year from the time they discover they are not the parent to contest paternity. The bill died in committee and Sherrer did not refile it for this session.

He said the problem is rare but perplexing.

"It creates a little bit of a clash in policy issues because we don’t want to leave a child without a father ... but I think it’s a pretty bad public policy to support fraudulent acts (if the mother knew the father might be someone else),” Sherrer said.

Stepping up
The man who contacted The Oklahoman has visitation rights but said he has not been allowed to see the child since Thanksgiving. He either wants custody of the boy or will step aside if the biological father comes forward.

"I want what’s in the best interest in the rest of his life,” he said.

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I see I am not alone in my disdain for the way government has handled custody and child support for several decades now. I joined a newsgroup (alt.child support) almost 20 years ago and have learned just how draconian and punitive domestic relationships have become at the hand of government.

Lke Tom says: "call your reps". Perhaps it can be the start of a return to normalcy.

Phil, Yukon - Dec 30, 2008 at 9:55 am
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I see I am not alone in my disdain for the way government has handled custody and child support for several decades now. I joined a newsgroup (alt.child support) almost 20 years ago and have learned just how draconian and punitive domestic relationships have become at the hand of government.

Lke Tom says: "call your reps". Perhaps it can be the start of a return to normalcy.

Phil, Yukon - Dec 30, 2008 at 7:49 am
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It's all about the money. If a father proposed providing food, shelter, clothing, education and medical care for a child in lieu of payments, it would be rejected.
Kevin, Shawnee - Dec 30, 2008 at 7:37 am
Big shocker there...Oklahoma DHS doing best at what they do..nothing..The way the DHS sees it, if they can make someone else pay for the kids, thats one less person they have to deal with. It never ceases to amaze me that the DHS works come across as though you are inconveinencing them when you go into their offices. I strongly suggest you call your reps and make Oklahoma change that law. All kids should have someone to care for them, and many of times, its the mothers who are the reason they don't have!
Dustin, Mulberry - Dec 29, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Tom, you are right Call your reps! This ex has also put my son in jail for 17 months so far ( he is waiting and waiting for a trial date) on trumped up charges based on lies from her. The child support he can not pay because he is in jail is adding up month after month. He asked them to do a DNA on the youngest child but DHS said no as it does not matter if he is my sons child or not he has to pay . How will he ever get caught up as he is in jail . Oklahoma is a back wards State with back ward laws. Most of the laws are against the man.
Mollie, Oklahoma City - Dec 29, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Can we spell, "RIP OFF"? Get the law changed. Call your reps.
citizen, Edmond - Dec 29, 2008 at 9:55 pm
The father should get custody of the child, if he wants; and make the mother pay child support and the money she has received for child support. If the non-father wants to continue to be the child's father. Legally, he is the father of this child. If the natural father wants to be part of his life, then the mother and natural father should have to repay all the child support received from the non-parent. There should be a law against women who has a child by someone else especially if they are married. Why should he pay for someone else pleasure, therefore the mother should be held accountable. She knew this child was not his from the beginning especially if she was having an affair. The law needs to change. If the non-parent wants to continue being the father, he should have rights and visitation; as well as take care of the child's need. He should not have to pay any child support to the mother, it is all about money to her anyway. There should be no money paid to this woman for child support. If the natural father wants to part of the child's life, then the non-parent should have to pay anything. This matter should be handle really quick as the child is being the main one hurt for his mother's misdeeds.
grace, midwest city - Dec 29, 2008 at 9:10 pm
My son has been duped twice by his ex wife. First time she came to him with a baby and told him she was his daughter and my Grandaughter.He married her to give this child a Dad as he thought she was his. I and he found out when she was 7 yrs. old that she is not his as his wife at the time told him the truth. They then had two children and then she had a baby boy that looked like no one in her or my sons family but spiting image of a friend of theirs. They are now devorced. He has to pay child support on the 3 children ( the first child not his is grown but he raised as his own) the youngest is not his but child support ,DHS or Oklahoma laws could care less that his ex lied and far as I am concerned commited a crime . My son now has years and years of child support on a boy who we know is not his. Not fair and not right. PLEASE change the law. Yeah we care about the child but point is he is not my sons child ,should the REAL father not pay instead of getting away with no child support? What about the childs right to know who his real Father is ,not make some poor sucker have to pay for her having a fling and getting pregnant while my son is busting his butt working to take care of his family.
Mollie, Oklahoma City - Dec 29, 2008 at 7:44 pm
The state has no basis to be involved in Child raising. Abolish DHS now!!
Dale, Cheyenne - Dec 29, 2008 at 6:17 pm
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I've not liked the way they handle child support for as long as I can remember. There are situations where parents are tricked out of their kids by adults thinking they can do better because they have more money, then those folks lie to the state and get funds causing the state to persue the parent for money. They also take some of your payoff from a wreck. How are you supposed to get another car? They also will take your license if you don't pay, how are you supposed to get a job or keep one? They really need to revise how they tend to the situation because it actually makes it harder to pay child support the way it is for many. In some cases the guardian blows the money, what do you do then? What if the parent refuses to let you see the child but yet you pay child support? They are seperate issues by law and you'll have to fight each individually meaning even though you pay child support you may not be able to see your own kids. This dad has visitation and she's refusing him. That hurts the child and I wonder why she refuses, legitament reason? Doesn't look like it to me but I don't know. If it's not a legitament reason, then why block visitation? Isn't that called Frustration of visitation? I hope the best for this "dad" and all parents who are tricked or forced into situations in an unjustifiable manner.
Brock, Oklahoma City - Dec 29, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I saw a TV news magazine story where a legal dad/former husband turned out not to be the biological dad. Mom was living off of the hundred's of dollars of support she received each month. She and the others in the story could not understand why legal dad was hurt and angry. He was told to get over it. It made him bitter, and ruined his relationship with the young boys he thought were his children. The boys' pain hurt me to watch. Dad should have stepped up to do the noble thing, but mom should be made to somehow pay. Give the kids to the dad they love who was the father by statute. Make mom pay child support to dad. Obviously, she is an unfit parent by the serial fraud she perpetrated and hid through the birth of three children.
edwin, Tulsa - Dec 29, 2008 at 4:55 pm
"It comes into the best interests of the child and protecting the child to ensure that there’s a source of reliable support,” said Jeff Wagner, spokesman for the DHS Child Support Enforcement Division.

Even if a child is not the biological child of a father, the state's interest is extorting money from a man using the threat of losing his licenses or liberty? People need to march on Frankenstein's castle in each county and burn it to the ground if that is the state's contention. The monster must die. The lying mother is a co-conspirator to the extortion and should by statute lose custody of the child. The actual father who is not receiving visitation or has his relationship blocked by the lying mother should also be compensated by the mother. I have seen a child support enforcement Petition in Cherokee County where it states that ONLY "John Doe" could be the father of child "Daddy Unknown." Simultaneously, there are Petitions stating only Jack Doe, Harry Doe and Tom Doe are the fathers, thus the attorney who signed off on the Petition is lying and should be disbarred for out-and-out lying in at least 75% of those circumstances.
edwin, Tulsa - Dec 29, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Every father in Okie Land should get a guest appearance on Maury Povich's "Whose your daddy" episodes. One would think child support enforcement workers get paid by commission. Michael, in the antebellum days, I think if you found your wife had fooled around, the polite thing to do would have been to poison her. Of course, there was always the convenient double standard for men who fooled around.
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Dec 29, 2008 at 4:24 pm
You have to pay child support even if you were duped into believing a whore's bastard was your own?We should bring back stoning for harlotry,LOL
Michael, Tulsa - Dec 29, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Yet one more reason not to have a child or get married. Bad things always arise from such mistakes.
R?, Tulsa - Dec 29, 2008 at 1:08 pm
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Stories like this should be part of the curriculum for teenagers.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Dec 29, 2008 at 12:39 pm
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A man has no rights when it comes to Child Support. I live in Texas now and it is no differnt here. If you do not pay they will put negative things on your credit report and place leins on you. They will suspend your drivers license or even put you in jail. But, if you are not getting your visitation rights the Attorney General does not care. You have to go spend more money to hire an attorney to fight with the mother, but you still have to PAY!
Jeremy, Krum - Dec 29, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I would like to see what the U.S. Supreme Court would have to say on a ruling for this. I sure as hell wouldn't want to pay for a child that I did not father. That is some of the draconian aspects of the state of Oklahoma and their law makers. They need to get into the REAL world.
That is akin to convicting a person in court that is not guilty.
william, pampa - Dec 29, 2008 at 11:06 am
Unless you are positive your wife is screwing around on you, then you don't really get a clue until you realize the kid is the spitting image of your best friend. That could take a while, maybe longer than two years, if the father isn't in the house or doesn't have custody.
Charles, Oklahoma City - Dec 29, 2008 at 10:49 am
Despite Rep. Sherrer's thoughts that is is "rare", I'd consider 30% to be frequent.

Women who perpetrate such fraud should be prosecuted.. In addition to being prosecuted, the man wrongly named as "father" should recoup from the mother for any money paid her under the guise of "child support" with interest added.

Oklahoma law (Chapter 10, article 77, article 2), in part says: "A man is presumed to be the father of a child if: 1. He and the mother of the child are married to each other and the child is born during the marriage; 2. He and the mother of the child were married to each other and the child is born within three hundred (300) days after the marriage is terminated by death, annulment, declaration of invalidity, dissolution of marriage or after decree of separation:, etc. This means that unless the "father" demands a court involved paternity finding, he is responsible for any child she chooses to give birth to including one that results from her adultery and lies.

Assuming paternity is bad policy when there is a scientific test that is readily available and becoming more reasonably priced that can PROVE it one way or the other. Why does the state rely on "presumption" when proof is available? The answer is "money".

Even in cases where the mother and true biological father have later married -- the man originally identified as the legal father has still been forced to pay child support to the mother. This is insane!
Phil, Yukon - Dec 29, 2008 at 10:47 am
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I would think if you have been the child's "father" for that long you would want to continue to be there for them. However, I don't agree that by state law you should be required to do so... as this is not your child. Whatever steps should be taken to identify and locate the biological father. The mother obviously knows there is a possibility and yet she doesn't come forward with that information until after this 2 year rule... That is FRAUD. No matter how you look at it!
Jess, Warr Acres - Dec 29, 2008 at 10:34 am
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