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Doctors, Obama promote overhaul
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Published: October 6, 2009

WASHINGTON — On the cusp of a key legislative push, President Barack Obama on Monday filled the Rose Garden with doctors supportive of his health care overhaul, saying "nobody has more credibility with the American people on this issue than you do.”

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The Senate Finance Committee is expected to clear its long-debated and scrutinized bill this week. The latest version will cover fewer people, after senators last week softened penalties for not carrying health insurance. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said she expects it will cover 92 percent or 93 percent of Americans, down from about 95 percent in earlier versions.

For a visual plug from some medical pros, the White House arranged for the president to have some 150 doctors representing all 50 states just outside the West Wing.

"When you cut through all the noise and all the distractions that are out there, I think what’s most telling is that some of the people who are most supportive of reform are the very medical professionals who know the health care system best,” said Obama.

But Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., an orthopedic surgeon for 25 years, said many doctors, nurses and patients strongly oppose Obama’s proposals.

They are greatly alarmed at proposed cuts in Medicare, he said, and doctors and hospitals also want provisions against "abusive lawsuits.”

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Matt1, OKC - Oct 6, 2009 at 8:38 pm
apparently posts to this column are no longer permitted...I've tried three times without success.
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 6:34 pm
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I'm sure the insurance companies and oil companies appreciate having some peons out there running interference for them. I dealt with the major oil companies for years and they are crooked as hell.
They have caused a lot of problems in the middle east screwing countries over in the name of oil.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Teddy R, and I have to assume the R has nothing to do with Roosevelt. when you throw out a figure of 2.4 billion and 13 billion to back up your case, what do those figures mean? The three largest health insurers, Aetna, United Health Care & Tenet had a combined average net profit of 3.5% last year. If you think that's excessive take a look at Walmart, Exxon, Microsoft, Apple & Google who had a combined net profit averaging 14.5% Are these companies to be called blood suckers..back to Halliburton.....they serviced the wells after the fires were contained by companies like Red Adair and others....the intention was to set a little trap, Floyd and it worked.
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 5:01 pm
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Teddy, You either made a statement leaving out the fires and takeover of Kuwait were under the 1st Pres. Bush.
Cheny was Not the vice president and Karl Rove had more power than the President himself under both Bush administrations if you read some of the trash the Democrats were saying.
I dated a fellow's stepdaughter that worked finances for Bush, Cheny and Rove. One day he said, "You don't like Clinton, do you?" I said "No". He said the 3 republicans were worse than Clinton could ever start to be and that "Rove was instrumental in getting the 2 Pres. Bush's elected and Jeb also." He insisted Rove was the money man. I have no way of disputing him since he knew them personally.
Floyd, Oklahoma - Oct 6, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Of course Helliburton rose to the task (no slide against the fire-eaters), no other firm was even asked because Cheney wanted to pad his bank account after he retired from destroying the constitution, running torture programs and lying to America to garnish support to invade Iraq.

But lets not change the subject Don, explain to me why this is acceptable and who's to blame:

Average annual profit by the top 10 health insurance companies in 2000 was $2.4 billion and in 2007 was $13 billion (S.E.C. statistics).
According to the Census Bureau, 13% of Americans lost their insurance from 2000-2007.


TeddyR, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Milkman, You ain't seen scumy until you invest in show business.
Floyd, Oklahoma - Oct 6, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Don, calion, I have to admit I don't know a lot about who put out the oil well fires in Kuwait. But, I've read it was Boot and Coots, Red Adair, Cudd, Wild Well Control and Safety Boss. I didn't see Halliburton mentioned as one of the leading companies to fight the fires. Correct me please.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 4:02 pm
TeddyR, at the risk of being accused of blasphemy, I must admit that working side by side with the Halliburton company was a very rewarding experience....When you're working with them to help put out the fires that SH started in Kuwait as his armies were retreating during the Gulf war, well, what can I say other than your patriotism makes your heart swell with pride. What made it even better was that time was of the essence so there was no time for contract bidding...Dick Cheney said boys, git er done and Halliburton rose to the task at hand.
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 3:42 pm
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The oil industry is the one industry that is scummier than insurance. The oil industry is a bunch of greedy, polluting thieves. Where do you think the insurance industry learned to be so crooked?

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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 3:23 pm
TeddyR, I don't work for an insurance company, have never worked for an insurance company.....why would I want to work for a company that has become a whipping boy for the ignorant....Gosh, what if I worked for Aetna and they assigned me to the customer relations department; all those irate customers calling 7/24 saying that their 14 year old sister who is 8 months pregnant was denied pregnancy insurance. Who, in their right mind would want to have a raunchy career trying to help the poor and infirm...I spent my career working for an industry that is highly respected and never accused of any wrong doing..The oil industry was the place for me.
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 3:19 pm
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Of course he stacks the deck or the lawn I guess with people that support what he wants. Why not get together a conglomerate of medical professionals of varying backgrounds and discliplines to weigh in on healt care reform. Of course the only "reform" will be for us commoners not the elitist, not much discussion on that issue. This and really previous administrations attitude seems to be, "you will take what we give you so sit down and shut up YOUR voice means nothing to us".
Terry, Norman - Oct 6, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Don-
Not when there is a lap in your coverage.

What insurance company do you work for anyway?

TeddyR, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 2:37 pm
When President Obama complains about the fact that some insurance companies make a profit - remember that it is those insurance companies that are helping foot the bill for the financially failed "public option" known as Medicare/Medicaid. The system that is being established doesn't reward a success or even measure it in human terms. The only thing that matters is the bottom line, the dollar cost to the politicians in Washington. Thus they are unfunding the two primary reasons for major expense of medicare, cardiologists and oncologists. What chronic diseases do you think affect Medicare recipients the most? Why would one de-fund the very specialties that are needed the most by recipients? The reason for these cuts offered by Administration is "cost savings." It's always all in the details that will make or break one. Just watching.
Matt1, OKC - Oct 6, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Maybe something good will happen to health care. A news report last night said the Democrats have yet to figure out a good plan. Of course, the Republicans can only make suggestions but if a feasable plan comes for a vote, I think they will cross party lines and with McCain,"reach across the aisle" since their next election may be determined in how they please their constituants.
Floyd, Oklahoma - Oct 6, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Then it follows, John that insurance companies should quit paying for homes and businesses that are ravaged by fire, hail, tornadoes, hurricanes and that these companies should quit paying collision and comprehensive claims for damage to your cars...and insurance companies should start denying coverage to NFL athletes who want to protect themselves from career ending injuries.....ad nausea
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 12:59 pm
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SINGLE PAYER NOW! Eliminate profiting on others health needs.
John, Norman - Oct 6, 2009 at 12:42 pm
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Ah, you lefties let your emotions run wild without ever presenting the facts. Teddy, I'm sorry you have a seizure disorder. Were you aware that when you changed jobs there would be a delay in your insurance coverage? If you did know and you changed jobs anyway, it was your decision and not the fault of some dirty, thieving, lying insurance industry. When looking at the health care system, you have to look at the entire picture ie what's good for the most of us and leave the isolated cases aside. To do otherwise would cause a bureaucratic catastrophe. As for being a righty, I've worked for more democrats seeking election than you probably don't even remember...Red Phillips, Johnson Murray, Bob Kerr...any of those names ring a bell? As for you Johnny, I'm aware of your situation and I hope you chemo treatments do the trick.
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 12:31 pm
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Don is a classic Righty - Profits first, country and citizens second.

Colin, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Wow Teddyr! You really let him have it, way to go!

Man Don, I bet you feel like a real A-hole...
Johnny - Oct 6, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Don-
You want to have a serious debate instead of name calling? Since I am soo dumb....

I have a seizure disorder, I have since I was 10. I changed jobs 11 months ago and my new employers insurance won't pay for 1. My $234 a month medicine 2. My neurology appointments 3. my EEGs and 4. My blood tests to monitor my liver functions due to my medicines.

So up yours jerk face! You have NO idea because you obviously are lucky or you work for an insurance company. I pay $100 a month for my insurance which doesn't do squat and won't for another month. Is that fair? Do I have any other choices? Your blind defense of a dirty, thieving, lying industry points out your obvious ignorance of reality.
TeddyR, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 12:15 pm
TeddyR, I don't want to call you dumb; let's just say that you are ignorant of the facts...Insurance companies now seem to be the whipping boy for all of you who want big daddy to take over the health care system in America...You think you're entitled to be taken care of from cradle to grave. Teddy, you don't have a clue as to what is insurance and what isn't...A pre-existing condition is not insurance...if you wanted it covered as a handout, fine but don't call it insurance...Covering someone that is 8 months pregnant is not insurance....want to cover them as an entitlement, fine but don't call it insurance....Mr. Insurance agent I just totaled my car about an hour ago...I want to purchase some collision insurance...can we make a deal...get real, Teddy.
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 11:55 am
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Willis-
Somewhat. However, I am very leery about tort reform. For instance, if I have to have an amputation and the doctor cuts off the wrong limb (which has happened several times in this country) I want to be able to sue for much more that $250,000. I think the tort reform should be aimed at the malpractice insurance companies and their profits/rates.

Yes, I think they should have interstate insurance but a non-profit, public option should be available, but everyone must pay for their coverage, nothing free. We need to get rid of the hidden tax we pay now (unpaid bills for treatments for the uninsured) and the rationing currently done by the insurance companies.

We need to move away from employer based insurance and allow interstate insurance and get rid of pre-existing conditions and dropping coverage for people getting ill.
TeddyR, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 11:44 am
It never occurred to me that electing a black man president would result in so much apparent hatred in the American people to be revealed. It is obvious that some people posting on here can't stomach the realization that our president is black...That makes it tough for us that abhor the playing of the race card. When it comes time to express our negative views of OBs policies, the interpretation could be that we're raciest. That is sad.
Don, Calion - Oct 6, 2009 at 11:40 am
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I thought it was well said the other day that the crisis is much more a health/lifestyle crisis. And we see the results in the healthcare needs/crisis.
Matt1, OKC - Oct 6, 2009 at 11:31 am
Buzz, the lab coats were a suggestion by the White House when they asked these Doctors to attend this meeting. It presented a great photo-op for the White House to make its' case for Md apporoval of the proposed healthcare initiative. It would show the viewing public that these were doctors and not a bunch of men and women in suit and ties. It was another dog and pony show by the admnistration to further the agenda. The POTUS did not hand out lab coats, as they brought their own. I do suspect that there were lab coats on hand for anyone that forgot to bring their own. The visual impression of this meeting was more important than the substance...
willis, oklahoma city - Oct 6, 2009 at 11:29 am
I am so amazed that people will not look at the facts surrounding this healthcare dilemma. TeddyR, your facts show me that in order to arrive at fair costs, we should allow interstate insurance, and reform our tort laws as well as tighter controls on drug companies. Am I reading this right? These seem to me to be reforms that would not cost taxpayers billions of dollars.
Louis, there is something seriouly wrong with you. You need to seek professional help to deal with your anger. I pray that you do not own firearms, as you present a danger to yourself and to the public. Please look into getting some help with your displaced anger...
willis, oklahoma city - Oct 6, 2009 at 11:23 am
the prez is handing out lab coats for this photo-op? gimme a break.
Buzz Lightyear, OKC - Oct 6, 2009 at 11:22 am
Louis-
When you call the President of the United States a nappy headed brutha, yes it is racist. And there is a difference between making music and spouting hatred on a chat board.

As for President Obama pupetting legislation, how come there are 8 completely different bills coming out of committees? That makes no sense. You need not worry about these problems, they are obviously too complicated for you to understand, boy.
Johnny - Oct 6, 2009 at 10:59 am
WASHINGTON - As Congress presses forward with landmark legislation to revamp the nation's health-care system, lawmakers are grappling with a troubling question:

Are Americans dying too soon? The answer is yes. When it comes to "preventable deaths" — an array of illnesses and injuries that should not kill at an early age — the United States trails other industrialized nations and has been falling further behind over the past decade.

Although the United States now spends $2.4 trillion a year on medical care — vastly more per capita than comparable countries — the nation ranks near the bottom on premature deaths caused by illnesses such as diabetes, epilepsy, stroke, influenza, ulcers and pneumonia, according to research by the nonpartisan Commonwealth Fund published in the journal Health Affairs.
TeddyR, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 10:45 am
So Johnny, all kinds of rappers and comedians can use terms like I did and be called "artisits" but when I do it I am a racist? Why is that?

As for the legislation....it is being written by B. Hussien Obama's puppets, so he may as well write it himself.
Louis Friend, Norman - Oct 6, 2009 at 10:19 am
I am not for health reform unless they cut costs where they need to at doctors offices, hospitals, clinics. My mother was in Edmond Medical Center for 11 days total bill was $88,000 and of course they settled for $17,000 so why the big difference in what they charge and what they accfept. My husband has chemo every 3 weeks they bill for $33,000 BUT ACCEPT $19,000 this is the problem. Obama needs to get real and understand the everyday working person and he does not just like Congress doesn't.
Phyllis, Stigler - Oct 6, 2009 at 10:13 am
Average annual profit by the top 10 health insurance companies in 2000 was $2.4 billion and in 2007 was $13 billion (S.E.C. statistics).
According to the Census Bureau, 13% of Americans lost their insurance from 2000-2007.

I'm not against people making profits, I'm against people making profits at the expense of people's lives. According to a Harvard study this year, 44,000 people have died due to lack of insurance. We've gone to war for less than that so why can't we pass legislation to end this killing of the American people?
TeddyR, Oklahoma City - Oct 6, 2009 at 9:14 am
Luois-
Whats Obamacare? Show me Obamacare! He hasn't written any legislation, congress has and last I recall, President Obama is not in congress. The only reform he's announced he wants is if you like your insurance, keep it, if you like your doctor, Keep them, get rid of the pre-existing condition clause, can't drop people if they get sick and can't deny treatment prescribed by a doctor and have a public option (which majority of Americans want) to keep insurance companies from price gouging.

As for your racism, I feel sorry for you, you're stuck in the early 20th century. Did you pick up your hood from the cleaners? I hear there is a good old fashion cross burning tonight. It just kills you that a black man is saving this country you honky lipped, redneck, dip chewing, 4 toothed MF.
Johnny - Oct 6, 2009 at 9:07 am
The bruthu just don't get it. The American people have spoken and they do not want Obamacare. When will the Celebrident get this through his nappy hair covered skull?
Louis Friend, Norman - Oct 6, 2009 at 8:07 am

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