Economy shapes second debate
Politics Voters seek answers in town hall meeting format

From Wire Services
Published: October 8, 2008

NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The presidential candidates turned a town hall debate Tuesday night into a festival of blame, issuing dire warnings about the other’s ability to rein in deficits and corral an economy spinning out of control.

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The debate was the second of three between the two major party rivals, and the only one to feature a format in which voters seated a few feet away posed questions to the candidates.

They were polite, but the strain of the campaign showed. At one point, McCain referred to Obama as "that one,” rather than speaking his name.

"It’s good to be with you at a town hall meeting,” McCain also jabbed at his rival, who has spurned the Republican’s calls for such joint appearances across the fall campaign.

They debated at Belmont University four weeks before Election Day in a race that has lately favored Obama, both in national polls and in surveys in battleground states.

Troubled economy
Not surprisingly, much of the debate focused on an economy in trouble.

"The last president to raise taxes during tough times was Herbert Hoover,” John McCain said, linking Barack Obama to the Depression president.

Obama fired back: "We are in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression,” adding that he blamed "failed economic policies of the last eight years” — policies he accused McCain of abetting.

McCain offered the boldest sounding prescription to the crisis, saying that as president he would immediately order the Treasury secretary to start buying mortgages from people who now owe more than their homes are worth, to let them avoid foreclosure and stabilize home values. The plan, aides said, would cost $300 billion.

"It’s my proposal. It’s not President Bush’s proposal. It’s not Senator Obama’s proposal,” McCain said.

Obama made no effort to pick apart the idea. After the debate, aides pointed out that the bailout package Congress just enacted gives the Treasury the authority McCain would invoke, and they noted that Obama voiced support two weeks ago for direct mortgage buys.

The senators squabbled repeatedly over the missteps that led to the crisis, each accusing the other of ties to housing finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Obama tried to turn the page on that, telling one voter in the audience, "You’re not interested in hearing politicians point fingers. You’re interested in how this affects you.” Even so, he went out of his way to link McCain to deficits that have accrued under President Bush.

Economic malaise dominated the night. Stock markets are reeling. The credit crisis has spread around the globe. Retirees have lost $2 trillion worth of savings. Voters at Tuesday’s town hall-style debate in Nashville were angry about the $700 billion Wall Street bailout and scared it won’t work.

They sought reassurance and solutions.

For McCain, the goal was clear and daunting: expose the Democrat as woefully underprepared and reclaim the momentum. He conceded Michigan last week and lags by widening margins in Pennsylvania and other critical states. Allies, including his own running mate, have prodded him to take on Obama as aggressively as possible.

Obama was hardly in a position to coast, despite growing leads in national and state-by-state polls and the contest down to the final four weeks.

His task, analysts agreed, was to highlight a superior mastery of economic policy and, if possible, provoke McCain into an intemperate outburst to show himself plausibly presidential for those still skeptical about his short time on the national stage.

Format eased attacks
Ahead of Tuesday’s debate, they softened each other up with days of caustic personal attacks, the opposite of the civil discourse each promised. Tuesday’s format made that sort of nastiness awkward, though.

Obama has portrayed McCain as "erratic in a crisis” and harped on his role in the infamous Keating Five scandal. McCain has called Obama "dangerous,” and Gov. Sarah Palin accused Obama of "palling around with terrorists” — by most independent accounts, a hyperbolic description of his relationship with William Ayers, the Weather Underground founder turned Chicago community activist.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., a McCain supporter, felt such attacks would be less effective than tackling the crises weighing on voters.

"That’s not what most people want to hear. …

"Times are tough,” he said. "Ideology, character and values is an important part of the presidential race, but the pocketbook and terrorism is by far the bigger part. And it’s to McCain’s advantage, it seems to me, to say that in tough times, we need a tough guy for president.”

The bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates assigned the Gallup Organization to recruit uncommitted voters from the Nashville area. Moderator Tom Brokaw of NBC News chose questions from them and from others submitted via the Internet.


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Wow Helen...you are blaming the economic meltdown occuring in October of 2008 on a man that left office in January of 2001? Wow....quite a stretch there mam. You see Helen, when you spout this kind of far right wing partisan garbage that you hear on Fox news, you lose any credibility that you might have otherwise possesed. I think I can safely say that the majority of the rest of us can clearly see that the republicans have controlled the White House for the past eight years and they have controlled the congress for six of the past eight years and we think that the republicans might deserve a great deal of the blame for this mess. Seriously Helen, get past your hate for Bill Clinton and move on, find someone new to hate. When Clinton left office our econoy was in teriffic shape, gas prices were well under $1.50 a gallon, we had a budget SURPLUS, and we were actually paying our national debt down and not running it up. Since Bush took office over seven years ago, gas has gone to a high of over $4 a gallon, we are up to our eyeballs in government debt, and our economy is in a meltdown that some experts say will soon result in another great depression. Shame on you Helen - take off your Fox News/Rush Limbaugh glasses and quit drinking the Kool-Aid they are feeding you and get in touch with reality. I do however agree with you about the term limits issue though!
Michael, Oklahoma City - Oct 9, 2008 10:32 PM
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I don't know about you, but I am all for term limits in Washington. Leave them there for 8 years and then let someone else have a try at it. It would save the taxpayers lots of money in pork, etc.
HELEN, NOBLE - Oct 8, 2008 4:55 PM
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Gee, and I'd heard this was all Carter's fault, despite there having been 24 years of republican administration since Carter's time. Helen, they have ALL been complicit, no matter what Rush says...
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Oct 8, 2008 4:49 PM
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This all started out with a bill that Bill Clinton got passed to make the banks loan money to people who couldn't afford to pay for their houses. This volcano has been gathering steam since he was in office.
HELEN, NOBLE - Oct 8, 2008 4:13 PM
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Sounded exactly like the 1st debate to me...
Justin, Oklahoma City - Oct 8, 2008 9:05 AM
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Instead of wasting time investigating the CEO's of these bankrupt companies, let's investigate the politicians who got us in to this mess and remove them from office. Make them try to figure out how to earn an honest living for a change.
Bill, tulsa - Oct 8, 2008 8:59 AM
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