Family awaits avenue for lawful residency

By Devona Walker
Published: November 4, 2007

Lora appears American: from her blue eyes to the sound of her voice, which hasn't even the hint of a Spanish accent. She and her husband own a home. They work. They pay taxes. But they are not legal.

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"This is our home. We work hard for it, really hard,” said Lora, 23. "We are going to stick around and we are going to follow the law. We are not going to speed. We don't drink. We just want to be good citizens.”

On Friday, her extended family congregated in the living room of her south Oklahoma City home. Everyone there, with the exception of her 2-year-old daughter Lupe, is an illegal immigrant: Her mother Maria, a housekeeper; her father, a construction worker; her aunt Bertha, a housewife; cousin Jackie, a college student; and her other cousin Lorena, a senior at the University of Oklahoma who is majoring in accounting with a minor in finance.

Also present was a close family friend, Jose, also a senior at OU, who will graduate this year with a degree in engineering.

"There is no way for us to become legal U.S. residents unless we go back to Mexico for 10 years. If there was, we would have done it,” Lora said. "I am not a criminal. I did not even come here under my own will. My parents brought me here.”

Dealing with the police
Before moving to Oklahoma City, Lora's family lived in a small suburb. Then, too, her mother worked cleaning the homes of wealthy Americans.

On one day, Maria was sitting in her car outside a client's home, afraid to approach because the owner of the house had dogs.

Shortly after she left the home, a police officer pulled her over. Before she was able to remove her driver's license from her purse, he was upon her, yelling at her. He told her to get out of the car.

"I asked why he had stopped me, he said it was because I looked suspicious,” Maria said.

House Bill 1804 has caused panic in the Hispanic community. Some illegal immigrants have signed over all of their property to family members and friends who have papers. Others have just walked away, leaving behind everything they worked for in this country. And still others, like Lora's family, will remain and live in the shadows, fearing detection and hoping for comprehensive immigration reform that will give them an avenue toward becoming a legal resident.

‘Somewhere in the middle'
Jose came here when he was 3. His first language is English.

"I didn't even know I was not an American citizen until ninth grade,” Jose said. "Everyone was getting their licenses and I couldn't get one.”

None of his classmates or even close friends know he is an illegal immigrant.

"I feel like I'm telling them a lie. I can't be truthful to myself or them,” he said.

HB 1804 did not prevent him from attending college. It will not prevent him from graduating, either. But it may very well stop him from getting a job.

"I want to be an American citizen, but people don't want me to be an American. I'm from Mexico, but I don't know Mexico. I don't think of myself as a Mexican,” Jose said. "I don't know what I am. I guess I am somewhere in the middle.”

‘Out of the shadows'
Their parents brought them here for a better life, for that they are happy and grateful. Lorena, Lora and Jose know their lives would have been drastically different if they had grown up in Mexico.

"The main question for Hispanics is, ‘Why do the American people want to blame us for what happened on 9/11?'” said Maria. "It hurt us, too, when it happened, because we were living and working in this country. Some of us, we give everything for this country.”

At age 9, Lora, with her family, crossed over to the U.S. by way of the river.

"All I want is for the American public to know is that we would like to come out of the shadows,” Lora said.


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"...we are going to follow the law. We are not going to speed. We don't drink. We just want to be good citizens.” Guess we can forget that part about entering the country ILLEGALLY. The article said that they own their own home. It is ILLEGAL under the Oklahoma State Constitution for an ILLEGAL ALIEN to own property. OOPS, there goes the good citizen part again. They work (ILLEGALLY) either an employeer who doesn't care if they are breaking the law by hiring them (yes the employeer needs to be punished too) or they falsified the documents or engaged in identity theft. Guess what, just a few more broken laws. Glad to know they don't drink (drinking in general is NOT illegal, so where did that come from?). For the ILLEGAL cousins mentioned in the story, what good does it do for an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT to get a degree from one of our universities (most likely tax-payer subsidized in-state tuition rates), when they can't be legally hired?
Larry, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2007 3:47 AM
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Rich, or is it Ricardo? My support of our immigration laws has nothing to do with bigotry. They are laws and we have them for a reason. I am spewing the truth. What do you want me to call the children they rush across the border to give birth to? Ooh don't deport me, my baby is a citizen. How do you propose to offset the financial burden caused by the aliens? How many of them do you support financially? More taxes for illegal's welfare? Do you support those who disregard all laws or just the immigration laws? Who gets to pick and choose which laws it is ok to break?
Mark, Mustang - Nov 5, 2007 9:40 PM
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Mark: You are an idiot. "Squeeze out a few anchor babies?" You are a sick, demented bigot. The world would be a better place without the hate people like you spew. Your life is the sad shell of humanity.
rich, moore - Nov 5, 2007 10:53 AM
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If Mexico is so bad why are they all proudly flying the Mexican flag? If you want to be american citizens how about flying old glory instead? Our economy can only support so many non tax payers. Maybe they can go live with sue and she will support them. Who pays the medical bills when they squeeze out a few anchor babies? Who makes up the difference for the added burden on the school system. Wake up! Go to a western union and watch the amount of money they are sending to relatives in Mexico! Is that helping our economy? It is not hate. Laws are laws. If Mexico is that bad then DONT HAVE CHILDREN as they will probably suffer too!! If you can't feed yourself maybe you don't need a child.
Mark, Mustang - Nov 4, 2007 9:32 PM
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Who taught you all HATE? I cannot understand all of these bad and sad comments. I'll bet you all profess to be a Christian. But, you continue to be bigots and NOT try and understand. I have a friend in Mexico, I am not Mexican, but that matters NOT. The conditions their family has to endure is NOT what any of you have to face on a daily basis. These messages are the same hate that the KKK tell Blacks for many years. They are trying to change to become citizens and all of you do is Criticize. Why NOT help someone instead of putting down HUMAN beings. God's creations, all of us. Go to another state? Oklahoma used to be a friendly caring state. What happened people? NONE of you have had to endure hatred, bad conditions, have any of you had to live in a war zone on a daily basis, have you starved and worked for many hours with little pay? NOT enough to buy milk or food for your family? God doesn't like UGLY and there is so much of it here today. Sure, I supposed you will run me down as well, but that is your problem. You all need to help instead of hate. One lady said they have to endure what their parents did by coming over. Are you enduring the bigotry handed down from all of your families? "Do under others as you would have them do unto you." NOT hate. Please help anyone instead of turning your backs and writing bad comments online.
Sue, Shawnee - Nov 4, 2007 8:53 PM
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They've ridden the gravy train for too long and now it's time to pay the piper. I don't feel one bit sorry for any of them regardless of how or when they got here or what language they speak. No one would have compassion for me if I broke the law whether it be speeding or murder. Besides, the American Dream should be reserved for Americans. Legal Americans. There are ways to become a citizen legally, it's not like we're slamming the door in their face. If they want it bad enough, they'll make it happen. Stop whining that the law has passed and move to another state that will welcome you with open arms. There are 49 others that would love to have you......
Duncan, Norman - Nov 4, 2007 8:22 PM
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I am sorry, "Lora", but if you are not here legally you are a criminal. It really is just that simple.
Jason, Edmond - Nov 4, 2007 1:27 PM
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Her cousin is illegal and a senior at OU...I would be we are the ones footing the bill for it all!
WeNdE, OkLaHoMa CiTy - Nov 4, 2007 1:06 PM
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Sandra: Please go back and read your post again, the part that says, " You speak, talk, and write THREE languages FLUENTLY." I think not, at least not the way I was taught in school. You tooted your horn way too soon, dear. I agree with Jodie 100 persent.
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Nov 4, 2007 11:54 AM
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Jodie, I am a naturlized citizen,and I have one dvantage that you do not have I speak,talk,and write THREE languages FLUENTLY, I all about MULTICULTURAL. Oh, I am also educated; teaching American children.
SANDRA, OKLAHOMA CITY - Nov 4, 2007 11:40 AM
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You are so right Jodie, the illegals have said they will take this country over, not by arms but in numbers. I also agree with Gabe but I just chalk it up to more bleeding heart liberal rhetoric.
K, Edmond - Nov 4, 2007 9:48 AM
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Clint: The truth of the whole situation is: The U.S. has got millons of illegals in the country that is out for one purpose, and that is to OVERTHROW OUR GOVERNMENT!!!!! Before you start yelling, "FOUL", take a look around. The illegals are not willing to abide by ANY of our laws, they march on our streets, ranting and raving, waving the Mexican flag, etc. If we all resorted to the illegals's way of thinking, this would be a country without ANY LAWS.
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Nov 4, 2007 9:27 AM
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I think the Oklahoman should be held to the same standards as employers and others covered by this bill.They are aiding and abetting the family in this article.
UR MASTER, Del City - Nov 4, 2007 9:10 AM
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Jodie, I assume you are Native American then? Most of the Mexican people are adapting very well!!! They were not cutting grass and laying tile in Mexico. Jodie you should get ready to do those jobs....seems you are not happy that the Mexican population has done an excellent job here.
Clint, Oklahoma City - Nov 4, 2007 9:05 AM
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IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT!!! I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. There are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have OUR OWN CULTURE,OUR OWN LANGUAGE AND OUR OWN LIFESTYLE. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, LEARN THE LANGUAGE!!! We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, AND OUR LIFESTYLE. Those of you that are complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great AMERICAN FREEDOM, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE!!!!!!!
Glenna, Oklahoma City - Nov 4, 2007 8:55 AM
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The last time this land was invaded by scores of illegal immigrants, the inhabitants were slaughtered and the remaining were forced to relocate to reservations far from their homes of thousands of years. The the white invaders now think they are some how 'legal' despite ever having to apply to be an immigrant or take a test to obtain citizenship. The people making the laws are immigrants too. This country was stolen by white people, don't forget that. If you steal a car, is it yours? Can you decide who gets in and rides in it? I am ashamed of what is happening here. I know more black and white people using public assistance than hispanic. This law clearly is an attempt at a non-violent "ethnic cleanse". Did OKC treat the Katrina evacuees like this? What is different? NAFTA allows an American to go to Canada or Mexico as long as they have a job offer. But why can't a Mexican come here when they have a job offer? All you racist pigs that think because someone speaks Spanish they should leave, I ask you how fluent you are in Cherokee, Kiowa or any other truly native language.
Clint, Oklahoma City - Nov 4, 2007 8:36 AM
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This is no easy situation. As I read this article my heart hurt. Many hispanics living here...mainstreamed into the American culture..are now suffering for the illegal decisions of their parents...years ago. There is a right way to get here and stay here. I wish we would have addressed/inforced our border laws with this kind of intensity 35-40 years ago.

Questions to ask...If I were living in Mexico illegally, because I could live better or make more money or....you fill in the blanks....What would be the government's response to my illegal presence? Is this a fair question?

I am also sure that the new emphasis on border law is not geared to punishing hispanics for 911. But the reality is this...if Americans don't respect their borders, no one else will either.

I am so committted to treating hispanics...leagal or illegal with dignity and respect. They are pecious human beings created in the image of God. But, there has to be an understanding that it is not wrong unkind or barbaric for a government to honor it's borders. In fact it is a very sensible thing to do.

Blessings to all of you. Bob
Bob, Lextington - Nov 4, 2007 8:31 AM
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So, what's wrong with using the college education to work in Mexico for 10 years? Is there no loyalty to one's home country...to bring it to where it should be? What would Oklahoma be like if every single college graduate left? Has anyone wondered why Mexico is in the state it is?
Carol, Tuttle - Nov 4, 2007 7:54 AM
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Official warns parents about dangers posed by cartels
By Adriana M. Chávez / El Paso Times
Article Launched: 11/03/2007 09:07:49 PM MDT


Spurred by two recent drug-smuggling incidents involving teens, El Paso County Attorney José R. Rodríguez urged parents to keep a close watch on their children during an annual parent conference today in Horizon City.
"Drug-trafficking cartels are recruiting in our schools," he said before addressing a group of parents attending the Clint Independent School District's 10th annual Regional Parental Engagement Conference. "This is a continuing problem, and we want to inform parents and kids about these dangers."

Early Friday, a 17-year-old Mexican boy was detained by U.S. Border Patrol agents after agents noticed several men loading dark-colored duffel bags into a van parked about three miles west of the Paso del Norte port of entry. Agents found 526 pounds of marijuana in the van with an estimated street value of about $421,000. The case has been turned over to the El Paso Police Department.

On Aug. 9, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement special agents arrested Horizon High School graduate Rene Humberto Perez, who is accused of hiring fellow students to drive marijuana-filled vehicles destined for Oklahoma City. Perez was allegedly responsible for smuggling 14 tons of marijuana between Juárez and Oklahoma City last school year.

J.T.(I), Norman - Nov 4, 2007 1:09 AM
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My American flag is up along with several others that I have noticed in the neighbor hood around sixteen in all. I want one thing to be known. This is an answer to the radical Hispanic groups that have raised the Mexican flag in our country and marched on the U.S with demands of Americans to leave’s have no problems with the ones who work, collect no government assistance and support themselves they are the ones who have no problem with our flag and respect it. However it will send a mesege to the radical hispancis that we are united. I urge all those concerned to show our colors.
mark, oklahoma city - Nov 4, 2007 1:04 AM
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