Feedback: Was Bob Stoops right to call the fake punt against Texas?
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Published: October 11, 2008
Was Bob Stoops right to call the fake punt against Texas? Tell us what you think.
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Carlson: Grrrr, this is a tough one. I'm giving the nod to Sam Bradford, but for now, I'm still giving the nod on my Heisman ballot to Chase Daniel. Let me explain. I look at the Heisman as the award for a great player who is also most valuable to his team. On quarterbacking alone, I think Bradford is better than Daniel, hence my answer for this question. In terms of being important to his team, I think Daniel is more important for Missouri's success than Bradford is for Oklahoma, hence my ballot for Heisman.
Stoops needs to stop hiring friends and get people that want to succeed. Never mix friends with business; soon you will have no friends and no business!
Suppose you are a high school recruit and you look at this:
Last 5 Bowl Games: 1-4
Last 4 vs. Texas: 1-3
BCS Championship games: 1-2
This record says, "Come to OU and be a big game loser".
Stoops needs to realize as long as he lets Venables run the defense it will always be like that. He doesn't have to fire him, just hire another one and do that CoCo thing (Co-defensive coordinator) like when Mike Stoops was there. He should just make sure the new guy calls the defensive shots.
If Stoops doesn't do this or if OU doesn't fire Stoops, then OU fans should be happy getting beat by the runner up to the WAC or Mountain West conference in a tertiary bowl game played in mid-December. Think about it.
McCoy is a great quarterback and I wouldn't be surprised to see him win the Heisman this year. Texas was the better team because they had some of running game.
The run-up-the-middle-and-fall-down worked great when we had a punishing back like AD, but our backs can't wear down the defense like he could, and we obviously don't have the blocking schemes that fit those backs.
We have very talented players. If any of you are reading this, the majority of you guys play your hearts out, and I thank you for that. I'm just starting to wonder about the coaching staff.
Oklahoma media, what team are YOU watching?? All those predictions of a rout gave me a good laugh. This was TEXAS! This is like the Super Bowl of the Big 12. No matter what the record is for both teams, they play like they could have beaten the Patriots last year. Can't wait to see how you try to build your credibility back up.
Kelly, sorry...can't do much about the UT fans. Just know that there are less of them there than there are here. Keep your head down and stay safe.
a good decision at the appropriate time during a game. He faked it in the 3rd quarter, behind
3 points on Fourth and 8 or 9, because he panicked. He was in the 4th quarter further behind
with 4th and 2 around the 50 td. line and punted. Thats not the only unintelligent calls he
made. Look at his time management, look at his special teams, but most of all, look at that
Defensive Co-Ordinator. Bob's time management and special teams, which he coaches, gave
Texas 10 points, to go into the locker room at the half only leading by 1. You figure it out?
I don't know in now that OU has lost 3 of 4 years to Texas and Stoops recent BCS Bowl history people will start calling for him to be fired, but just remember what happened to Nebraska when they did that to Frank Solich because they lost 3 games. Also remember what is was like before Stoops with Gibbs, Schnellenberger, and Blake. There are a lot of schools that would be ecstatic to only win 10 games a year. I live in Washington, Huskie fans would be happy to be .500. Tennessee Fans would be ecstatic to only win 10 games a year.
Remember in the big scheme of things OU is flying a mile high. Texas lost 2 games in 06, maybe they will do it again this year. They have a brutal schedule coming up. BOOMER SOONER!!!
Bob Stoops is a great, very respected coach in college football. Any program in the country would give anything to have him leading their team.
Paul, Knoxville, TN
I agree with Lana and John. Brent is just not doing a good job with the defensive talent. Awesome recruiter but noone wants him for a head coach.......That said it was good to have the nation watching OU Texas again and we owe Coach Stoops for that.
The biggest problem, besides "that" fact that OU’s “SPECIAL TEAMS”,
Okay, the biggest problem is I don't proof read!
The biggest problem, besides that fact that OU’s “SPECIAL TEAMS”, should take off their bike helmets and corrective shoes, and learn to hit someone with the ball, instead of watching how pretty they look running down the field on the jumbotron, is Venables. He’s unable to make any in-game adjustments. A fact proven in all too may games. Starting with his first game in charge, KSU's Big 12 title game 2003, to the recent fiascos; Boise State 2006, Texas Tech and WVU 2007, last but not least Texas 2008. He’s been out coached more times then Gary Pinkel (who if it wasn’t for, OU would really look bad in “big” games).
Bob’s main problem (which is hard to call a problem) is his loyalty (or stubbornness). Venables should be gone, Murray isn’t 100 percent and should be in a back up roll. This goes all the way back to not pulling White out of the Sugar Bowl in 2003, when he was all but knocked out after the KSU game and, 1st half LSU thrashings. Sometimes the best people can't get the job done.
With that said, I don’t have an >.800 winning percentage so, I’ll go back to my 5 figure a year job on Monday, and let people second guess me. Thank God this is American and we can express our opinions! My name is Randy and I approved this add.
On the other hand, I do agree the defense has been suspect ever since Mike Stoops left. Venables has a lot of energy, is a hard worker and is smart enough, but I honestly think he tries to "over-scheme" his opponent to a fault instead of just keeping it a little simpler sometimes. I also disagreed with the punt on fourth and two late in the fourth quarter, and believe that Demarco shouldn't be returning punts or kicks.
By the way, WHO IS THE SPECIAL TEAMS COACH, because THAT is who really needs to be fired. Mark my words...we have NOT given up our last kickoff return for a TD this year...we are that pitiful. Clapp shouldn't be on kickoff defense team and I'm sure there's a host of others. My fear long term is that with Will Muschamp at texas and Mack Brown usually beating us in the key recruiting battles that Mack Brown will reverse the record against Stoops and crew if we don't get a Mike Stoops / Will Muschamp-type of defensive coordinator. There's a reason why Venables is still NOT a head coach after this any years at OU, believe me. I sincerely thank him for his support and contributions to the program, but he simply is not and has not performed when he has to...his coaching doesn't generate THE EFFECTS (solid defensive ball games) as we say in my line of work that he must at a program like OU.
We gotta get 'em next year. BOOMER SOONERS!!!
JOHN
WAIPAHU, HAWAII
Chuck West, Huntington Beach Ca.
Kevin, why are you so stubborn with the run game? Just because you may think we should be able to simply line up, blow the defense off the line and run with no counters or quick pitches, doesn't mean we will. Change is good...!
big game, especially Texas. OU fans are sick and tired of being embarrassed in Bowl games
and big time prime time games. Stoops is turning the Sooners into the Buffalo Bills. Hopefully
OSU will be rated ahead of OU Monday. Why not they pulled off their upset.They took care
of bussiness. They were prepared to play. Gundy doesn't like being out coached.
Sorry.
Watch though as Texas will lose to Tech and possible Missouri. We could back door this thing again. But honestly, our D is pathetic and I am not up for losing another BCS bowl game. Rather win a Holiday Bowl against Oregon than lose a BCS game again
Competitive--? Yes, I love the competition but hate the same results with this Coaching staff. Not Stoops, but Venables-BJW, and even Gundy--our Running Backs are wussies. Half way running into the line--we need to attack the hole.
Sorry--he did kickoff 2day. He still stinks if the only thing u can do is kick extra points..
Stephens does not kick off only place kicks. Moreland (sp) kicks off. The kick off coverage is terrible. As far as the fake punt goes, it was a mistake at the time. We had the lead and should have tried to pin Texas deep. When Stoops should have gone for it was in the fourth quarter when we were three points down and Texas had the momentum and it was only two yards to go.
This is one reason I loved John Blake. Because when we won we were surprised rather than being surprised when we lose---seems like EVERY BIG GAME
This loss was a Victory GIVEN to Texas by our playcalling and defensive schemes
Who runs the ball up the gutt 26 times a game---never any end arounds or run outside the tackles. Whats is going on. We were one dimensional. Stoops needs to clean house. 11-2 is not good enough with the talent we have.
IMO Stoops wienied out on the 2nd 4th down and 2 with 5 minutes to go that he should have gone for. That was the play of the game at that point--why wouldn't he go for it at that point? I say it is time for a Defensive change and also Bobby Jack Wright needs to go also. We need a Will Muschamp type. We -year in and year out- make the same mistakes with these 2 key coaches.
I can't believe with 6 minutes to go and only needing 2 yards, why didn't we go for it then. You couldn't stop Texas, and you didn't have time to score twice. Seems like OU is always scrambling to get in offensive and defensive signals. I lay this one on the laps of the coaches. Coach Stoops, it's not good to keep losing big games!!!!!