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Published: October 11, 2008

Was Bob Stoops right to call the fake punt against Texas? Tell us what you think.

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It was a good call - poor execution by Gresham. It appeared he was surprised by the call and became a spectator on the play?
Dan, Colleyville - Oct 13, 2008 2:24 PM
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Why don't you ask Jenny. She seems incredibly intelligent in this rant:
Carlson: Grrrr, this is a tough one. I'm giving the nod to Sam Bradford, but for now, I'm still giving the nod on my Heisman ballot to Chase Daniel. Let me explain. I look at the Heisman as the award for a great player who is also most valuable to his team. On quarterbacking alone, I think Bradford is better than Daniel, hence my answer for this question. In terms of being important to his team, I think Daniel is more important for Missouri's success than Bradford is for Oklahoma, hence my ballot for Heisman.
Kelly, Newalla - Oct 13, 2008 2:22 AM
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I am tired of spoiled fans always calling for head of a coach because of one bad game that had a lot to do with an injury and a team that is just good offensively. Yes the fake punt call was a good call, had Gresham been paying attention of his block instead of the punter it would of worked. There was also another kid that missed a block on the same defender. If Venebals were to go, I am sure many teams in country would glad to have him. In case, you all didn't know our defense has our corners are new and LBS are new and our defense is better. I do admit Venebals needs to disguise his blitzes better but to say our defense sux in conference that is offense orriented is reduntant. I am sure our scoring D is among the best in the country and the big 12. Texas Oline Dominated our Dline most of the time flat out. To say Venebals isn't a good coach is ludacris.
David, Tulsa - Oct 13, 2008 1:44 AM
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Stoops could do alot of things to help change his team, but everything goes through him he gave the approval for the no huddle and for the terrible defensive stunts. The worst of all is the acting by the kicker.
Jonathan, Newkirk - Oct 12, 2008 11:37 PM
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until stoops gets rid of venebals the sooners will never be good. It is no coincidence that the last good defense the sooners had was when Mike Stoops was here. I am hoping more than anything that after Mike gets fired at Arizona, which is looking highly likely, he comes back to OU as the defensive coordinator. Venebals never ever ever mixes up his play calling whatsoever. I was able to tell when OU was going to try blitzing 5 seconds before the play started, imagine how Texas felt when they had spent the whole week watching film, they knew it was coming which is why we never pressure mccoy that much. And then when a blitz actually made it through it is always always always with the linebackers, and frankly they are too slow to run down McCoy for the sack. Until the sooners start blitzing with safties and corners again we are going to give up big plays and tons of points. Because any team that has any type of quarterback has all day to pick our secondary apart because of the shoddy play calling by venebals. He needs to go, I don't care if he and Bob are best friends, he is costing this team year in and year out. I had friends who were actually on the football team over the past couple of years and not one of them thought that venebals was a good coach. If your players don't think you are a good coach, the whole team is in trouble.
Brandon, Edmond - Oct 12, 2008 10:19 PM
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JJ, you hit the nail right on the head. If Gresham looks upfield and blocks, instead of turning backwards to watch the play, not only does this play make a first down, it also bust for a big one. Then the momentum turns back to OU, and I feel the Sooners win this game. Great call, bad execution. A D1 player making a jh mistake. If he makes it, we are talking about how great of a big game coach, Stoops is.
Rob, White Oak - Oct 12, 2008 9:43 PM
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I think it time to bring in the good old moving van and get some coaches that give a da__! Venables and Bobby Jack need to find something else to do. Also that overrated Kevin Wilson needs to take his take all da__ day no huddle offense and go somewhere else! They talk about all the plays they have but they only run 12 of them. If you want to see a good football team that runs a good no huddle offense, watch the University of Tulsa.

Stoops needs to stop hiring friends and get people that want to succeed. Never mix friends with business; soon you will have no friends and no business!
J, Broken Arrow - Oct 12, 2008 9:31 PM
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Yes JJ, you dead on about Grisham blowing the play. What in the hell was he doing? He was totally responsible for them not making the first down! He just stood there like an idiot and got in the way while watching the Texas tackler go right by him and stop the play 1/2 yard short!
Craig, Owasso - Oct 12, 2008 9:11 PM
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It was a good call. If Gresham blocks his man we make a first down with PLENTY of yards to spare and probably go on to score. Unfortunately, since Gresham stood there with his head up his rear it turned the momentum back to Texas and the rest is history.
JJ, Okc - Oct 12, 2008 9:06 PM
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Yes, Yes, we need more of those calls to help keep defenses off balance. it gives our offense one more tool
JAMES, JENKS - Oct 12, 2008 9:03 PM
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I hate to say it, but Venables needs to go. At Auburn, they get rid of an inept offensive coordinator after 4 games. Texas has gone through a number of defensive coordinators since the Stoops arrived in Norman. Most of the other high-level assistant coaches have gone on to head coaching jobs. Not Venables. I'm sure there is a great deal of loyalty between Stoops and Venables, but enough is enough. In big games, matched by quality staffs, the Sooners have shown a distressing pattern of allowing way too many points. USC, Boise St., West Virginia, Texas. My point is that when Stoops knows his defense will not stop the opposition, he starts to do things like the fake punt last Saturday. The problem? You will not win many games that you allow 40+ points. Period.
Matthew, Venice - Oct 12, 2008 9:03 PM
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NOOOO! They went for it when they should've punted and punted when they should've went for it! With only 6 min left, 4th and 2, down by 2 and the defense has not stopped Texas but occasionally! Dah! What was Stooped thinking? Still not as bad as Kevin Wilson's imaginative first down calls! Good grief Wilson how many 1st downs do you have to waste before you realize running every stinking time for 1 yard is only leaving your team 2 downs to get first down the entire 2nd half. Why in the world would you refuse to believe that Texas was going to stuff the run every time on 1st down. Why not try a downfield pass more than 5 yards you moron!
Craig, Owasso - Oct 12, 2008 9:00 PM
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Good, looks like we're gonna lose a bunch off the bandwagon. Should be easier going now. Woah, we fell all the way to #4. You'd think the season was over, you bunch of crybabies. I'll be wearing my colleague's Texas shirt for a day this week, but at least I get to wear the crimson for 364 other days. And I'll wear it with pride. Go Stoops! Go Sooners! Settle in boys, it's gonna be a great year.
Calgary, Calgary - Oct 12, 2008 7:43 PM
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No, that was not a good time to call for a fake. The Texas defense was penetrating too well. And the field position wasn't good enough. I was surprised at that call.
boe, Jenks - Oct 12, 2008 6:12 PM
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He should've just gone for it like he usually does when the Sooners have similar field position. I think Texas smelled that fake from a mile away.
Mark, Okla. City - Oct 12, 2008 6:02 PM
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Not at all. In a ball control football game and with OU struggling to gain any edge on time of possession, it was a mistake. The biggest mistake, however, was the lack of "hurry-up, no huddle" offense. Kevin Wilson obviously missed something after OU's first drive in the 2nd quarter. This was the best drive of the game, illustrating the no-huddle to perfection. Wilson never went back to it, even though it proved to be punishing to the Texas defense. So Stoops' fake punt is overshadowing the real culprit to the game....Wilson's continued ineptness to differentiate our basic offense.
Marcy, Oklahoma City - Oct 12, 2008 5:53 PM
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No. Not the right call to fake the punt.

Suppose you are a high school recruit and you look at this:

Last 5 Bowl Games: 1-4
Last 4 vs. Texas: 1-3
BCS Championship games: 1-2

This record says, "Come to OU and be a big game loser".

Stoops needs to realize as long as he lets Venables run the defense it will always be like that. He doesn't have to fire him, just hire another one and do that CoCo thing (Co-defensive coordinator) like when Mike Stoops was there. He should just make sure the new guy calls the defensive shots.

If Stoops doesn't do this or if OU doesn't fire Stoops, then OU fans should be happy getting beat by the runner up to the WAC or Mountain West conference in a tertiary bowl game played in mid-December. Think about it.
Monte, Plano - Oct 12, 2008 5:21 PM
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Hey MIKE from OKC and all of the rest of you Naysayers, listen up! Remember when we couldn't even break .500? When the OU-Texas game didn't matter because we knew we weren't going to win? And then came along a guy named Stoops and . . .if i recall we've been pretty successful. So here's my point. Either, (1) be a true OU fan and stop your stupid comments, or (2) Don't be an OU fan because we don't want you and stop your stupid comments!
Bruce, Fort Worth - Oct 12, 2008 5:00 PM
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Absolutely, he was right. If it had worked it would be genious.
McCoy is a great quarterback and I wouldn't be surprised to see him win the Heisman this year. Texas was the better team because they had some of running game.
Janet, Oklahoma City - Oct 12, 2008 4:33 PM
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Kelly, YOU ROCK!! THANK YOU!! Not only your service, but also your comments. I thought I was the only one seeing Murray's "oh-you-touched-me-I-must-fall-down-now" play this season. And yet they keep treating him like it's last season. And that fake punt...from that far back??? Give me a break. Then there's Reynolds, out for the season. He knew it sitting there on the sideline. That loss was felt almost immediately when Texas took advantage of his absence, yet no adjustments were made to help the back not as talented as Reynolds (guess we lost the outstanding bench award too) cover the territory. In fact, this isn't the first game I've watched where no adjustments were made when the other team finds a crack in our offense or defense.

The run-up-the-middle-and-fall-down worked great when we had a punishing back like AD, but our backs can't wear down the defense like he could, and we obviously don't have the blocking schemes that fit those backs.

We have very talented players. If any of you are reading this, the majority of you guys play your hearts out, and I thank you for that. I'm just starting to wonder about the coaching staff.

Oklahoma media, what team are YOU watching?? All those predictions of a rout gave me a good laugh. This was TEXAS! This is like the Super Bowl of the Big 12. No matter what the record is for both teams, they play like they could have beaten the Patriots last year. Can't wait to see how you try to build your credibility back up.

Kelly, sorry...can't do much about the UT fans. Just know that there are less of them there than there are here. Keep your head down and stay safe.
Sondra, Edmond - Oct 12, 2008 4:18 PM
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If it had worked, we would be saying that it absolutely the right thing to do. It came up about a foot short. It was gutsy for him to do, and I applaude him for tryng it. That is a game to pull out all stops. I just wish it had not been tried so deep in our own territory.
Larry, Asheville - Oct 12, 2008 3:48 PM
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Don't hear much about these players' lackluster performance. Here's my thoughts: For a mammoth giant of his size, there aren't many good reasons to explain why Phil Loadholdt got his big caboose whipped numerous times throughout the entire day. Brian Jackson made a few really nice plays but the Texas coaches were giddy as they keyed on his inexperience play after play. Murray....what the heck? He looks like he's running scared most of the time. Run after run, he's hesitant from the time the ball touches his hands to the time he simply falls down. No anger, no finesse or determination like last year coming out of him. He continues to run the ball like he just started playing football last April. I hope he's got good grades because I don't see him making it to the next level. If his patella injury is still haunting him, then perhaps it's time to let someone else get more snaps. Check that, his replacement is well overdue. At least Chris Brown puts his head down and runs like he wants to play in the NFL someday. Brandon Crowe, oh dear lord! He looked out of place and utterly confused. Unfortunately, his confusion and being out of place allowed several big play conversions and a touchdown. Lamont Robinson should have been the immediate replacement. How many times will Kevin Wilson call a play that hasn't been working all season. Every bone head, go nowhere run play he calls costs the offense yet another important down and potential game changing momentum. Hell, since you obviously are going nowhere running the ball how about throwing some more screen passes. Throw it to a ruuning back in the flats or an occasional shuffle pass. These plays couldn't produce any more worse results than his go nowhere runs up the middle for a gain of half a yard each attempt. Check your run game stats Kevin and consider that OU used to do it all the time with great results when Q was in the backfield. Here's a novel idea. You got a huge tight end with decent hands in Gresham and Eldridge. Why not throw it to either of them a LOT MORE. Seems like that would get you 4-5 yards a pop and would loosen up the defense at the same time so the ground game could finally establish itself with authority. The ground game hasn't been a factor yet and Texas knew it. There was an article last week, "Vanilla will Melt Come Texas", by John Rhode that talked about OU opening up the playbook. Sorry, but he must have forgotten who was still calling the plays because there wasn't any Baskin-Robins in this game. Nope, from my vantage point it was just the same old Kevin Wilson piss poor bonehead play book. Who the heck is coaching special teams? Bobby Jack Wright or could it be my neighbor's six year old daughter? I've seen better special teams play from JV teams. Revered former Colorado head coach Bill McCartney turned the Buffs into a formidable national powerhouse during his tenure with special teams play. It's really simple, you have to consitently burry your oppenent deep with a well coached kicker/punter and take the wind out of your opponent's sales by forcing them to go the distance of the entire field. Make them earn it each and every posession, don't just give it to them. Of course it would also help to stay in a lane and then put a helmet on somebody brain bucket every once in a while. But I guess that would require some hustle and fire in one's belly. Sorry, I thought this was the OU-Texas game. I believe the latest stat comically exposes OU ranked somewhere around 104th in the nation. Hey Bobby, how about shortening the field with some decent kick/punt returns. A spunky player with speed and great moves by the name of Broyles comes to my mind for this tasker. Other college teams across America are running back kickoffs/punts for touchdowns or are helping their offense score while we are simply satisfied with returning it 15-20 yards. Why can't you see that you can't have a championship caliber team with the consistently poor performance of the special teams witnessed thus far? Something needs to change and pretty quick unless this team wants to lose to Kansas, Tech, and OSU. Lastly, poor Nic Harris took one hell of a hit towards the end of the game. I held my breath and prayed that he would even move his limbs after that hit. That's the way our D should have been hitting Texas' Jordan Shiply and Colt McCoy, only a little bit harder! The entire day looked like these two were wearing blue shirts during an OU spring scrimmage. I swear you would've thought our coaches were telling the players all week, "Go easy, we don't need these guys getting hurt because Texas needs these two healthy for their quest to the Big Twelve Championship Game." Can someone please request some old film of Brian Bosworth be brought out of the athletic department storage cellars so these players can see first hand how to knock the slobber out of a Texas player's ears. I could go on some more but I've got to get up in a few hours. Does anyone know how it feels to be stuck with a bunch of UT fans in Iraq? This is going to be a long deployment.
Kelly, Newalla - Oct 12, 2008 3:27 PM
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He was definately right to call the fake. Stoops has gotten too conservative recently. I wish that Bob would go for it more often.
Kevin, Holdenville - Oct 12, 2008 3:26 PM
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One more thing. Muschamp is nothing special. We put up 35 on him which was enough to win had we only played better defensively and on special teams.
Ken, Boise - Oct 12, 2008 3:21 PM
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Absolutely he was right to call it. What I don't understand is why he didn't go for it rather than punt on fourth and two with six minutes to go in the game. Texas scored anyway.
Ken, Boise - Oct 12, 2008 3:16 PM
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If it works your a hero if not ............ Might have been better to have saved it for a 4th and 2 or 3 that happened later. But all OU fans need to realize yesterday UT was the better team! Lets get behind OU as KU comes to Norman next sat. BOOMER SOONER!!!!
Bill, Columbus - Oct 12, 2008 3:01 PM
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Right situation right time and the right location. I thought it was a great call that wasn't executed well. Gresham was standing around looking instead of blocking ahead. I understand Knall was brought brought down from behind but Gresham did more to get into Knall's way than he did to help the play succeed. It was a gamble that we didn't win THIS time.
Todd, Atlanta - Oct 12, 2008 2:23 PM
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When Stoops lost all his assistants, that are now head coaches, he lost the ability to make
a good decision at the appropriate time during a game. He faked it in the 3rd quarter, behind
3 points on Fourth and 8 or 9, because he panicked. He was in the 4th quarter further behind
with 4th and 2 around the 50 td. line and punted. Thats not the only unintelligent calls he
made. Look at his time management, look at his special teams, but most of all, look at that
Defensive Co-Ordinator. Bob's time management and special teams, which he coaches, gave
Texas 10 points, to go into the locker room at the half only leading by 1. You figure it out?
jo, edmond - Oct 12, 2008 2:06 PM
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game changing call led to momentum swing and texas win.
James, Edmond - Oct 12, 2008 1:12 PM
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If it worked, nobody would ask this question and Bob would have been a genius. It was close to working and could have been a real momentum changer. The players needed some time to process Ryan Reynolds injury and so it was a great call. Too bad some blocks were missed and there was no one to seal off the back side tackler..
Paris, Oak Park - Oct 12, 2008 12:34 PM
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Call was correct. Execution was poor.
Mukund, Irvine - Oct 12, 2008 12:11 PM
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I don't believe for a moment that the fake punt call cost us the game. If Knall gets one more yard it isn't even an issue. The defense is really what cost us the game even more than the special teams play or the lack of a running game. We just simply could not stop their long scoring drives. This doesn't bode well for the rest of the season especially with Ryan Reynolds gone. In order for us to win the Big 12 now Texas will have to lose a couple games and allow us to "back into" the CCG like they did a couple years ago. But, it may not matter what Texas does now because I'm thinking that it is likely OU will lose probably at least one more game due to lack of a defense.
Devin, Oklahoma City - Oct 12, 2008 12:03 PM
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It was a good call. None of us saw it coming and if the punter had run an extra yard and gotten the first down everyone would have thought it was brilliant. Texas ran that kickoff back halfway through the 2nd quarter and momentum was in there favor. Stoops needed something to swing it it back in OU's favor and an extra yard would have done it.

I don't know in now that OU has lost 3 of 4 years to Texas and Stoops recent BCS Bowl history people will start calling for him to be fired, but just remember what happened to Nebraska when they did that to Frank Solich because they lost 3 games. Also remember what is was like before Stoops with Gibbs, Schnellenberger, and Blake. There are a lot of schools that would be ecstatic to only win 10 games a year. I live in Washington, Huskie fans would be happy to be .500. Tennessee Fans would be ecstatic to only win 10 games a year.

Remember in the big scheme of things OU is flying a mile high. Texas lost 2 games in 06, maybe they will do it again this year. They have a brutal schedule coming up. BOOMER SOONER!!!
Matt, Issaquah - Oct 12, 2008 11:55 AM
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There was nothing wrong with the fake punt.They just didn't make it.It's not a bad call,or worse call or even a stupid call..Like any other play,you make it or you don't..Coaches and players needn't hold there heads down(only for alittle while)thats normal..Oklahoma Sooners,it was not to be this saturday afternoon...Let's congratulate TEXAS LONGHORNS on a great WIN.....
FRANKLIN, MOORE - Oct 12, 2008 11:44 AM
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It was a gutsy call to say the least. If Knall would have gotten the 1st down and OU would have went on to score a TD, it would have been the best call ever to all the haters instead we rolled the dice and didn't pick up the 1st down.

Bob Stoops is a great, very respected coach in college football. Any program in the country would give anything to have him leading their team.
Clint, Wylie - Oct 12, 2008 11:14 AM
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Not with the punter doing the running. Should have snapped it to a backfield runner. This didn't cost them the game, the inability to continue poor kick-off coverage cost them this game.

Paul, Knoxville, TN
Paul, Knoxville - Oct 12, 2008 11:13 AM
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I believe both teams showed talent. Oklahoma never adjusted defensively to the center routes that Texas was throwing at them. If I were a defensive coordinator, I would have my defense adjust to those patterns. It was just the Longhorns day. I think their defensive coordinator and the offensive coordinator need to come up with a better plan. When OU-Texas play, throw out the rankings, and hang on, it's going to be a bumpy ride! I commend both teams for playing a well fought game.
Charles - Oct 12, 2008 11:05 AM
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all year whin stoops gets to 30 points we quit trying to score. we hit 35 and eneryone was heading for the busses this time it got us.
mike, kansas city - Oct 12, 2008 10:56 AM
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No. Teams that don't have talent use trick plays. In this huge game field position was paramount. Line up and play football - the fake punt was a momentum swing and allowed Texas to crawl back in. I'm a huge Bob fan but leave those plays in the pasture not on the football field. We don't need them!
Michele, Lake Oswego - Oct 12, 2008 10:54 AM
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I was VERY upset with the call Stoops made. Why? We should have punted, pinned them deep in their own territory, held them, gotten the ball back and run out the clock. Did Stoops have no confidence in our Defense? He would rather "gamble" than just stay with the basics, talent and execution? That call changed the whole game and you cannot fault the players. The game was lost by that call.
Laura, Orlando - Oct 12, 2008 10:44 AM
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We were out played and out coached. Texas coaches figured out how to pick our defense apart. The fake punt was a terrible call and was a turning point in the game.
Michael, Show Low - Oct 12, 2008 10:43 AM
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4th and 6...fake punt (didn't make it), 3rd and 15 QB sneak/carry (didn't make it), 4th and 2...OU kicked (why?). We (OU) don't know how to spell "special teams", games are won with defense and special team play, yesterday we (OU) had neither! I am and will remain a OU fan and supporter but "Please for the love of the Lord" Bob, get a special team coach that know what he is doing...I was very proud of the OSU team winning, they never quit and should be very happy with that win, I am afraid of them this year...It might be their year!
Billy, Paris - Oct 12, 2008 10:24 AM
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Stupid call. You're gonna put the ball in Mike Knall's hand and expect him to run 23 yards with it in this big of a game! Stupid!
Joe, Oklahoma City - Oct 12, 2008 10:15 AM
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Our defense has great talent and Venables is a good coach, but ever since Mike Stoops left the one element that went with him was the attitude of we're gong to kick your a** and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. That intangible left with Stoops and that is huge.
Mike, Argyle - Oct 12, 2008 10:02 AM
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Yeah, they needed some momentum. Defense was on its heels, and he tried. Still, not sure i want the punter running it. Hike it to a blocking back or have Knall dump it off to Gresham in the flats.
Jeff, Dallas - Oct 12, 2008 10:02 AM
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The only call worse than the fake punt was the decision to play defense with only 10 men once Reynolds went. I guess that is what happened since there seemed to be a huge whole in the linebacker spot.
steve, nicholasville - Oct 12, 2008 9:59 AM
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Yes. The defense was hopeless and just giving the ball back to Texas would have resulted in another long drive. Really didn't make any difference.

I agree with Lana and John. Brent is just not doing a good job with the defensive talent. Awesome recruiter but noone wants him for a head coach.......That said it was good to have the nation watching OU Texas again and we owe Coach Stoops for that.
Karl, Dayton - Oct 12, 2008 9:52 AM
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It absolutly amazes me how many "fans", and I use the term very loosely. Actually have the audacity to make reference to having Stoops fired. Be careful what you wish for the 90's weren't that long ago. As far as not being able to win the "big" game? I guess the back-to-back big XII championships (which has never been accomplished before) I guess we'll just file those as just another game.
Mike, Argyle - Oct 12, 2008 9:41 AM
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No
Gary, Edmond - Oct 12, 2008 9:02 AM
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I guess when the way to beat the Sooner has been exposed you have no choice but to do stupid stuff and hope it works, conditioning of these big guys is very poor...
Michael, Ponca City - Oct 12, 2008 9:01 AM
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As for those calling for Stoops to go, you need to go. Clowns like you do NOT deserve a team that wins even one game per season. I am disappointed about losing to Texas, but I am ashamed and appalled at the fair weather fans!
Jerry, Atlanta - Oct 12, 2008 8:54 AM
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no
ja, oklahoma city - Oct 12, 2008 8:30 AM
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For those saying Stoops needs to go, get real!! He is a great coach, yes, I'd like to see more fire from him, see him jumping up and down and celebrating with his players, see him go for it sometimes, trust in the fact that he has one of the best offenses in the nation, especially Bradford, but Stoops is not the problem. Brent Venables needs to go!! He is overrated, overhyped, and has never came close to comparing to Mike Stoops. He screams and yells, but his play calling doesn't back up his "passion". It is time for some assistant coach changes, but not head coach. Bob is the guy.
Lana, Oklahoma City - Oct 12, 2008 8:13 AM
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It was a good call. Unexpected. The problem was when Jermaine Gresham got in Knall's way and didn't turn up field to block. If he headhunts downfield, then Knall gets to the marker and everyone talks about how great the call was.
Wish, Norman - Oct 12, 2008 8:06 AM
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Why didn't he save the fake punt for the 4th and 2 in the fourth quarter when the whole game was on the line? You can't fault the offense, Bradford was spectacular as usual, the defense just couldn't make a stop to save their lives, especially after Reynolds went out.
Lana, Oklahoma City - Oct 12, 2008 7:58 AM
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Thank GOD for football, takes our minds off the stock market, presidential politics and other less important things.
Larry, Edmond - Oct 12, 2008 7:17 AM
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Defense has been bad since Mike Stoops left for Arizona, Hope he gets fired so maybe we can get him back..
Ken, Granbury - Oct 12, 2008 6:58 AM
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Yeah, I know the Boise game was actually in 07 and the WVU game was 08. They were part of the 06/07 seasons.

The biggest problem, besides "that" fact that OU’s “SPECIAL TEAMS”,

Okay, the biggest problem is I don't proof read!
randy, topeka - Oct 12, 2008 6:23 AM
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Yeah, sometimes you have to take back the momentum . The game was being taken over by Texas’s offense, at that point. I agree they should have went for it on 4th and 2 late in the game too.

The biggest problem, besides that fact that OU’s “SPECIAL TEAMS”, should take off their bike helmets and corrective shoes, and learn to hit someone with the ball, instead of watching how pretty they look running down the field on the jumbotron, is Venables. He’s unable to make any in-game adjustments. A fact proven in all too may games. Starting with his first game in charge, KSU's Big 12 title game 2003, to the recent fiascos; Boise State 2006, Texas Tech and WVU 2007, last but not least Texas 2008. He’s been out coached more times then Gary Pinkel (who if it wasn’t for, OU would really look bad in “big” games).

Bob’s main problem (which is hard to call a problem) is his loyalty (or stubbornness). Venables should be gone, Murray isn’t 100 percent and should be in a back up roll. This goes all the way back to not pulling White out of the Sugar Bowl in 2003, when he was all but knocked out after the KSU game and, 1st half LSU thrashings. Sometimes the best people can't get the job done.

With that said, I don’t have an >.800 winning percentage so, I’ll go back to my 5 figure a year job on Monday, and let people second guess me. Thank God this is American and we can express our opinions! My name is Randy and I approved this add.
randy, topeka - Oct 12, 2008 5:50 AM
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Yes, Coach Stoops was right to call the fake punt. If it worked, we would be celebrating. But since it didn't, we're questioning whether the coaching staff made the right call. Let me repeat myself here: if the play had worked, we would be celebrating. The coaching staff called a play they thought would work. If every play worked as it was designed to, you would score a touchdown on every play.
Jimmy, Garden City - Oct 12, 2008 5:39 AM
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I'll support Stoops to the end, and agree with his call to try the fake punt.

On the other hand, I do agree the defense has been suspect ever since Mike Stoops left. Venables has a lot of energy, is a hard worker and is smart enough, but I honestly think he tries to "over-scheme" his opponent to a fault instead of just keeping it a little simpler sometimes. I also disagreed with the punt on fourth and two late in the fourth quarter, and believe that Demarco shouldn't be returning punts or kicks.

By the way, WHO IS THE SPECIAL TEAMS COACH, because THAT is who really needs to be fired. Mark my words...we have NOT given up our last kickoff return for a TD this year...we are that pitiful. Clapp shouldn't be on kickoff defense team and I'm sure there's a host of others. My fear long term is that with Will Muschamp at texas and Mack Brown usually beating us in the key recruiting battles that Mack Brown will reverse the record against Stoops and crew if we don't get a Mike Stoops / Will Muschamp-type of defensive coordinator. There's a reason why Venables is still NOT a head coach after this any years at OU, believe me. I sincerely thank him for his support and contributions to the program, but he simply is not and has not performed when he has to...his coaching doesn't generate THE EFFECTS (solid defensive ball games) as we say in my line of work that he must at a program like OU.

We gotta get 'em next year. BOOMER SOONERS!!!

JOHN
WAIPAHU, HAWAII
John, Waipahu - Oct 12, 2008 4:15 AM
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I want Stoops to move on and Venables even sooner.
Stuart, Brooklyn - Oct 12, 2008 1:49 AM
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Didn't like the punt call at the time ... although the way our punter (didn't) kick, don't know if we'd have pinned them deep anyway. Agree with posters saying its time for Venables to go ... it's easy to see why Colt McCoy leads the nation in completion percentage, when Texas settles every time for short routes underneath - and we just kept giving them the cushion to take it. Remember how OU beat Mizzou? By getting up in their facemasks and knocking their receivers out of their patterns before they got started. With the athletes OU has, the defense should be able to do this at all times. One last thing ... why do they keep putting DeMarco Murray back there to return kicks? Since the kneecap issue, he's a shell of what he once was. No burst, nothing but cutbacks and falling forward into the pile. This team has no running game because A) the lazy lardbutts up front get whipped; and B) there's no breakaway threat back there anymore. Might as well rip the redshirt off Jermie Calhoun and see what kind of spark he can give the offense the second half of the season, because (the new, slower) Murray-Brown-Madu isn't going to cut it.
Scott, Springfield - Oct 12, 2008 12:31 AM
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It was a risk but the defense wasn't stopping them and they'd had a kick ran back. Given those things we're just second guessing.
Steve, Oklahoma City - Oct 12, 2008 12:28 AM
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i believe it was a good call. Had gresham blocked the man infront he would have had it. I was glad to see Stoops do it. OU has got to find a way to get the fire back. Texas played their best OU faltered without reynolds but still the offense lost some intensity. The season is not over. I do not believe tx can go undefeated through the conference but if they do they deserve the rewards. Go Sooners and thanks coaches and players for a good game to watch. Keep your eye on the prize.
Brian, Owasso - Oct 12, 2008 12:19 AM
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Yes, that was a good call. You don't win national championships without taking risks. True it did not go in the Sooners favor but you have to give Stoops the credit for taking the chance to put the Sooners in the position to win.

Chuck West, Huntington Beach Ca.
Chuck, huntington beach - Oct 11, 2008 11:37 PM
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D soft again and its really not that shocking. I agree with Phil concerning the punt and 4th and 2. Oh well, sooners can still do some damage. Mr. Potato head sure ripped Brent and the D.
jimmy, Aberdeen - Oct 11, 2008 11:36 PM
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No.
edwin, prague - Oct 11, 2008 11:19 PM
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KNALL IS FAST FOR A PUNTER.....
Joe, collinsville - Oct 11, 2008 11:17 PM
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A GOOD CALL IF IT WORKED..... A POOR CALL IF IT FAILS.....NONE OF YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE COACHING STAFF SO SHUT THA! WE NEEDED TO KEEP A DRIVE GOING. OH, IT WAS CLOSE.
Joe, collinsville - Oct 11, 2008 11:15 PM
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The fake punt wasn't Stoopid; that coach called for a fourth and two punt near mid-field with over six minutes to go was poor coaching. If we make it, we can take our and probably go score a TD and win. But instead we punt and assure a 10 point loss, because the defense wasn't going to stop them.
Kevin, why are you so stubborn with the run game? Just because you may think we should be able to simply line up, blow the defense off the line and run with no counters or quick pitches, doesn't mean we will. Change is good...!
Phil, eudora - Oct 11, 2008 11:12 PM
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Bring back Barry. Bring back a coach that new the importance of preparing and playing a
big game, especially Texas. OU fans are sick and tired of being embarrassed in Bowl games
and big time prime time games. Stoops is turning the Sooners into the Buffalo Bills. Hopefully
OSU will be rated ahead of OU Monday. Why not they pulled off their upset.They took care
of bussiness. They were prepared to play. Gundy doesn't like being out coached.
jo, edmond - Oct 11, 2008 10:52 PM
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Oklahoma State tried a fake punt that did not work against Missouri, on the road , but still won the game. Face the facts , sometimes the opposing team will out perform an over-hyped team .
Ronald, Duncan - Oct 11, 2008 10:52 PM
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Mike, OKC, I thought the same thing you did about where Austin Box was. Leaving Crow in made no sense at all.
Dude, Love - Oct 11, 2008 10:50 PM
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Let me see now; they were ahead, and we took a huge risk on our own end of the field. It was a terrible call, a momentum changer. If we didn't think our defense could hold them, why risk giving it to them that much closer to pay dirt. It was a terrible call! I have to agree, he wouldn't go for 4th and 2, but had a punter try to get six yards when we were actually still in the lead. Stoops is overpaid! Robert, OKC
Vicky, Edmond - Oct 11, 2008 9:47 PM
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It was a good call. This was the perfect time to go for it with the Longhorns being so aggressive going after the block. The only problem is that you're asking the punter to cover a lot of ground instead of hiking the ball to an upback. Punters only move so fast.
akil, long beach - Oct 11, 2008 9:07 PM
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the fake punt is part of the game , if he makes it stoops is the next riverboat gambler. its the defence again when you give up 45 pts. hello...and then here we go with you guys figuring who needs to when and lose to be bake in the hunt well i live in south alabama and iam tired of being umillyated .year after year. i know there is a lot of football left but this one reslly hurts
James, Norman - Oct 11, 2008 9:06 PM
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Meant to say "why on earth it was Not reviewed...."
Sorry.
Kevin, Marion, IN - Oct 11, 2008 8:43 PM
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Good call! It just came up short. Those who are commenting like they are experts saying Stoops is stupid, can't win, should fire so-n-so.....what planet do you live on? The defense was good today.....but was out of sync with Reynolds gone. They had been saying he was the glue on the defense, getting everybody into the right position. Like someone said, if he makes the 1st down, then there is no calling for his head. The officials helped Texas so many times and Colt McCoy should get an Oscar for his acting on those late hit FLOPS. Replay showed that it was an interception in the endzone....why on earth it was reviewed I'll never know....oh wait....that's right....replay is not supposed to be used if it "helps" OU....only if it hurts them.
Kevin, Marion, IN - Oct 11, 2008 8:41 PM
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Had it succeeded we'd be lavishing praise for his daring, his strategy, etc. I give him marks for guts. Games like these almost always are won due to something NOT ordinary. Touchdown runs, pass TD's, even kickoff returns are ordinary when compared against fumbles at the worst time, interceptions when least affordable and such. Stoops plays to win.
Richard, Tyler - Oct 11, 2008 8:29 PM
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When he first did it, I thought it was the stupidest thing he's ever done. Why? Because we just lost Ryan Reynolds the series before. After thinking about it, I think that's why he went for it. Stoops knew that with Ryan out, we had to keep their offense off the field. They say that football is a game of inches. Had Knall made it, things could have been different. Poor Brandon Crow, that kid was lost out there and in way over his head. I'm sure he will very good, he just wasn't ready.
Blake, Tulsa - Oct 11, 2008 7:31 PM
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Bring back Barry
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 7:29 PM
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11-2 at best-

Watch though as Texas will lose to Tech and possible Missouri. We could back door this thing again. But honestly, our D is pathetic and I am not up for losing another BCS bowl game. Rather win a Holiday Bowl against Oregon than lose a BCS game again
Competitive--? Yes, I love the competition but hate the same results with this Coaching staff. Not Stoops, but Venables-BJW, and even Gundy--our Running Backs are wussies. Half way running into the line--we need to attack the hole.
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 7:28 PM
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I bet we run the table the rest of the way and lose to Penn State in the BCS bowl game
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 7:25 PM
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William-Fairfield

Sorry--he did kickoff 2day. He still stinks if the only thing u can do is kick extra points..
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 7:23 PM
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way to go OU. once again you have your way with the chatanoogas and our lady of mercy high schools and get beat by someone with talent and coaching.
jeff, midwest city - Oct 11, 2008 7:11 PM
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Mike,

Stephens does not kick off only place kicks. Moreland (sp) kicks off. The kick off coverage is terrible. As far as the fake punt goes, it was a mistake at the time. We had the lead and should have tried to pin Texas deep. When Stoops should have gone for it was in the fourth quarter when we were three points down and Texas had the momentum and it was only two yards to go.
William, Fairfield - Oct 11, 2008 7:09 PM
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bad call again, mr stoops
James, Edmond - Oct 11, 2008 7:01 PM
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i hate this feeling. Rather not have even seen the game now.
This is one reason I loved John Blake. Because when we won we were surprised rather than being surprised when we lose---seems like EVERY BIG GAME
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 6:58 PM
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Mack Brown got emotional and Stoops just stands on the sideline allowing the same mistakes to happen over and over. Where is the stud Kicker we got. Jimmy Stephens is a joke. I have 7th graders that kick off deeper than he does.
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 6:56 PM
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Where was Austin Box--the superhero who was supposed to start this year. Was he not better than Crow?
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 6:54 PM
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I think every Sooner fan in the country was yelling "GO FOR IT!!!" on 4th & 2. I know I sure was. Stoops had the balls to try a fake punt, but not to go for it on 4th & 2. Thats just crazy..
OSWho, Philadelphia - Oct 11, 2008 6:54 PM
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why didn't Stoops call for Instant Replay on the Interception?
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 6:53 PM
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the Punter is NOT an athletic enough figure to accomplish a 4th and 6

This loss was a Victory GIVEN to Texas by our playcalling and defensive schemes
Who runs the ball up the gutt 26 times a game---never any end arounds or run outside the tackles. Whats is going on. We were one dimensional. Stoops needs to clean house. 11-2 is not good enough with the talent we have.
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 6:52 PM
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WHy did Bob Stoops not call for instant replay on the interception in the end zone? Clearly the knee was down prior to the ball came out. I love my Sooners!
j3lly, Boon Dock - Oct 11, 2008 6:50 PM
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Let's see a few years ago OU's playing Alabama in their house. We're leading. Repeat "we're leading", but momentum is sliding away from us and Stoops makes the call for a fake punt, and OU is fairly deep in their own territory. OU makes the first down and the rest is history. Didn't hear to many bashing him then for that fake punt call
Mike, Argyle - Oct 11, 2008 6:48 PM
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It was dumb to have Mike Knall run it rather thanthe up man--btw Did anyone see Jermaine Gresham just standing on the right side watching instead of blocking the guy who tackled Knall? He is just lazy.
IMO Stoops wienied out on the 2nd 4th down and 2 with 5 minutes to go that he should have gone for. That was the play of the game at that point--why wouldn't he go for it at that point? I say it is time for a Defensive change and also Bobby Jack Wright needs to go also. We need a Will Muschamp type. We -year in and year out- make the same mistakes with these 2 key coaches.
Mike, Oklahoma City - Oct 11, 2008 6:48 PM
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Another "Pre-Vent-a-win-bles" defense performance! The middle was as soft as you know what. I have a question..4th and 2 with 5 minutes plus left on the clock. WHy would you give the ball back to a hot offense's hand while your defense couldn't stop a NW Classen's offense? What a bone head Lewis (28) was for even lay a hand on McCoy. You either hit and knock his head off or stay the f*** away from him once he's out of bound. You know those homer refs were looking for an excuse to throw their flag.
j3lly, Boon Dock - Oct 11, 2008 6:48 PM
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I had no problem with the fake punt, but the kickoff coverage still sucks, and Grisham and Murray don't seem to be playing up to potential. Should have seen more Broyles.
I can't believe with 6 minutes to go and only needing 2 yards, why didn't we go for it then. You couldn't stop Texas, and you didn't have time to score twice. Seems like OU is always scrambling to get in offensive and defensive signals. I lay this one on the laps of the coaches. Coach Stoops, it's not good to keep losing big games!!!!!
Dennis, Honolulu - Oct 11, 2008 6:46 PM
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Sure it was. Thats not the reason why they lost. The eyes of Teaxs(The blind refs)lost the game for OU. Texas did play well with the refs aide throuh out the game.
OSWho, Philadelphia - Oct 11, 2008 6:45 PM
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It is not something I would have opted for at that time of the game But I do fault Stoops for trying. I think the play would have worked had Oklahoma's run game been working today. Bob was trying to break the Longhorn's momentum. I can't fault him for that.
jerry, Hephzibah - Oct 11, 2008 6:44 PM
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We were leading in the game and then Stoops made a bad call! Leading - just kick the damn ball! Hindsight is nothing when I was screaming at the TV when the Sooners were lining up to punt I said, "Don't do something stupid!" Then boom, something stupid! Not a good call period. But who cares! I don't think it cost us the game. Texas was just bette