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Ft. Hood suspect reportedly shouted `Allahu Akbar'

By JEFF CARLTON, Associated Press Writer    Comments Comment on this article73
Published: November 6, 2009

FORT HOOD, Texas — Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

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Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim, was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore his uniform at prayers.

Cone said Hasan was hospitalized in stable condition and that investigators hope to interrogate him as soon as possible. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived.

Cone said Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk. He acknowledged that it was "counterintuitive" that a single shooter could kill and injure so many people. But he said the massacre occurred in "close quarters."

"With ricochet fire, he was able to injure that number of people," Cone said. Authorities are investigating whether Hasan's weapons were properly registered with the military.

The motive for the shooting wasn't clear, but Hasan was apparently set to deploy soon and had expressed some anger about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said generals at Fort Hood told her that Hasan was about to deploy overseas.

Lee said Hasan had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars.

Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the mayhem and confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.

The gunfire broke out around 1:30 p.m. at the Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening. Nearby, some soldiers were readying to head into a graduation ceremony for troops and families who had recently earned degrees.

Pastor Greg Schannep had just parked his car along the side of the theater and was about to head into the ceremony when a man in uniform approached him.

"Sir, they are opening fire over there!" the man told him. At first, he thought it was a training exercise — then heard three volleys and saw people running. As the man who warned him about the shots ran away, he could see the man's back was bloodied from a wound.

Schannep said police and medical and other emergency personnel were on the scene in an instant, telling people to get inside the theater. The post went into lockdown while a search began for a suspect and emergency workers began trying to treat the wounded. Some soldiers rushed to treat their injured colleagues by ripping their uniforms into makeshift bandages to treat their wounds.

Video from the scene showed police patrolling the area with handguns and rifles, ducking behind buildings for cover. Sirens could be heard wailing while a woman's voice on a public-address system urged people to take cover. Schools on the base went into lockdown, and family members trying to find out what was happening inside found cell phone lines jammed or busy.

"I was confused and just shocked," said Spc. Jerry Richard, 27, who works at the center but was not on duty during the shooting. "Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."

The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said. Their identities and the identities of the dead were not immediately released.

The bodies of the victims would be taken to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for autopsies and forensic tests, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that were under investigation.

There also will be a ceremony at the air base to honor the dead.

Jamie and Scotty Casteel stood outside the emergency room at the hospital in Temple waiting for news of their son-in-law Matthew Cooke, who was among the injured.

"He's been shot in the abdomen and that's all we know," Jamie Casteel told The Associated Press. She said Cooke, from New York state, had been home from Iraq for about a year.

Amber Bahr, 19, was shot in the stomach but was in stable condition, said her mother, Lisa Pfund of Random Lake, Wis.

"We know nothing, just that she was shot in the belly," Pfund said. She couldn't provide more details and only spoke with emergency personnel.

Nathan A. Hewitt, 26, of Lafayette, Ind., was shot in the hip and calf, his uncles Elmo Robledo and Rex Deaton told the Journal & Courier.

Ashley Saucedo told WOOD-TV in Michigan that her husband was shot in the arm, but she couldn't discuss specifics. Saucedo said she and the couple's two children weren't permitted to leave their home at Fort Hood during the shootings.

For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood in July, Hasan worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing a career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. The 39-year-old Army major received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.

But his record wasn't sterling. At Walter Reed, he received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly. And while he was an intern, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.

Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md., said "I got the impression that he was a committed soldier." He said Hasan attended prayers regularly at the mosque in Silver Spring, Md., and was a lifelong Muslim. He spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, and he wanted out of the Army.

"Some people can take it and some people cannot," she said. "He had listened to all of that and he wanted out of the military."

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

Investigators had not determined for certain whether Hasan was the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.

The FBI, local police and other agencies searched Hasan's apartment Thursday night after evacuating the complex in Killeen, said city spokeswoman Hilary Shine. She referred questions about what was found to the FBI. The FBI in Dallas referred questions to a spokesman who was not immediately available early Friday morning.

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Associated Press Writers Lara Jakes and Devlin Barrett in Washington, April Castro in Fort Hood and Matt Curry in Dallas contributed to this report.

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One day later and the exact same people are still flinging poo at each other. Yesterday, I felt argumentative. Today, I just feel sad.
Tweedledee, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Like you said, Chris. You aren't going to "salute" him because of his skin color. Just plain old racism. Pedstrian. Typical.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 2:35 pm
C, another reason why. God's love is truly amazing... God's love is unilateral: He loves the unlovable and gives His glory to them. God's love is completely undeserved. God's love is unfailing for those in whom He delights: who respond to Him and receive His Son. But, God's love is clearly not "unconditional"; for wrath and eternal damnation will come to those who reject His Messiah and His Gospel. Let us be sure to be found in the position of receiving God's love, and not His judgment. Let us heed the conditions clearly set forth by our Lord so that we can be at peace with Him. And let us shout the message of these conditions from the rooftops so that others might be saved, rather than retreat into thinly veiled license, universalism, or anything else that "sets itself up against the knowledge of God" (2Cor 10:5).
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Chris, 98% of African Americans voted in last years election? 61% of eligible voters voted and you're saying 98% for African Americans. Where did you get that information? Or, is that just some more of your Glen Beck BS?
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:30 pm
If I were to allow my child to suffer and die, and just sit there and watch I would be a terrible parent. Why doesn't it work the same for God?
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:29 pm
C, because of the most famous verse in the bible. "for god so loved the world that he gave his only son that who so ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16. I say again "for god so loved the world that he gave his only son." It is not why should he, it's why doesn't he? I think it works the same as with my son, I created him, it is my duty now to make sure nothing bad happens to him. "we are all gods children" he created us, so he should do everything he can to protect us.
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Do you have 100% proof of that? or is it just faith? I believe in god, don't get me wrong, but I believe the bible has given us a seriously skewed view of what and who god is.
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:23 pm
David,

Why should he?
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:23 pm
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"Muslim extremist" is a term often used for these trashy people. I think it goes beyond that because any religion that in any way condones this kind of crap is not a religion, it's a disease. I was pleased to see at least one Muslim group speak out against this.

Earl, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:22 pm
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David this world is your home and you would never want to leave it, maybe. I am just passing through, and this is not my home. I am in no hurry to leave but my HOME is much nicer than this!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Milkman, Obama was never my commander in chief. I got out because I had a problem with some officers that didn't know squat, telling me what to do. If you are in the military, you will salute your "superiors," and I had a warped view of superiors!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I wont salute that POS. You have to earn respect. The man was elected because of his skin color, not ability to lead. You want prove. 98% of African Americans voted in t=last yeaqrs election. 31% voted this year. Why coundt they come out and vote again. Answer that.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Billy, you got out of the military so you wouldn't have to salute or you wouldn't have to salute Obama? Which or both?
--Maybe Chris should do the same.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Nobody's judging all Arabs. After all, some Arabs are Christians. Some people can just add up the evidence and say, yep, the guy was a terrorist. He caused terror. You could even say he is an Islamic Terrorist because he was a Muslim and caused terror in the name of Islam.
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:10 pm
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Because, according to the Bible he is "a loving and just God", if he was so loving and just then why does he allow such horrible things to happen to such good people? He can stop it because he is "all powerful and mighty". so why doesn't he?
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:08 pm
people need to stop and wait for the truth to come I hope we don't start judging all Arabs and just look at this case as one man who killed many people period.
anthony, euclid - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Milk, "When Obama enters the room, you better salute" The very reason I got out of the military!

BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:03 pm
David,

What is your rationale? Why should God prevent all suffering and pain? Is God causing this suffering and pain?
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:01 pm
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David, Your right about all the things that God allows, and if I was God, I would answer every question for you. People will get by with many things on earth, but will stand before God someday and unlike the American court systems, He will judge each according to their deeds!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Chris, you need to stop criticizing the military and your Commander in Chief. You're saying the military let this guy slide because of tree huggers? That's a stretch or just an outright lie like your other post claiming Obama stood with Muslims. When Obama enters the room, you better salute or get your ass out of the military for insubordination.

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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:59 am
of course not, death is a part of life. However I think that if he is such a loving, just god then he would prevent all of the suffering and pain of innocent people.
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:58 am
Hey Milkman, the differnece between your insults and mine. Mine are the truth, you are just trying to copy me because you cant be original.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:57 am
Hey stinker, you want to ever find out if I served, let me know. I wouldbe glad to show you.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:55 am
Its people like you Obama zobies who got these soldiers killed. Your going around and crying unfair on everything. Guess what, Racial profiling does catch more criminals tahn any method. Guess what, torture is a great way to get information. Guess what, if the government needs to take any step neccessary to keep me safe, I dont care. However, they knew this guy was up to no good, but because you crybaby tree huggers would say his civil rights were violated, they couldnt act on him fast enough. Good jump Obama zombies.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:54 am
David,

Are you saying that God should prevent death?
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:51 am
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looks like stinkerpants has just described himself. "I think you're a screwed up 17-year-old, kicked out of school and at the home computer."


c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:50 am
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Billy, God is just? what about the innocent good people that die everyday of disease, cancer, car wrecks, etc.... How is that just? Or was it just his plan? What about the rich who steal, lie, and cheat and yet they just get richer? when the poor continue to praise god and they can not afford the basic necessities.
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:50 am
Chris--you claim you served. But I find it pretty odd that you'd be politicizing the deaths of fellow warfighters. I really doubt a lot of what you say. I don't think you read Obama's book, and I don't think you're a Marine. I think you're a screwed up 17-year-old, kicked out of school and at the home computer.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:38 am
Well first of all Chris, Obama and Osama are two completely different people.

Second, the economy tanked before Obama was elected. The bailouts began with Bush.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:34 am
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Chris,

You don't trust "I want to give a shoutout" Obama? I just can't understand it.
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:31 am
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Chris, you shouldn't talk about your boss that way. He might have you removed from the service. Though, I have to admit, you probably should be because of your don't ask don't tell thing.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:25 am
Which book, what chapter, what page?
James, Norman - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:22 am
Hey Obama zombies, tell me what good Osama has done, nothing, he has done everything that Al Quida said it needs to do to destroy this country. DESTROY OUR ECONOMY. Guess what, the bailouts are doing it. sounds a little fishy.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:21 am
Milkman, you inbred homosexual, I have read his book and its sitting in front of me on my desk. I analyze it everyday finding more lies he told. Its gonna take a while, there are so many.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:19 am
terrorist attack. Plain and simple.
c, Noble - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:15 am
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Outlaw, you have nothing to fear because my God does teach love. The part of My God that most don't like is that he is also just. Religion can pollute the brain but religion is nothing like Christianity!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:14 am
"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

He is referring to Americans who are persecuted wrongfully because of their skin tone, name, religious affiliation, appearance, etc. NOT about terrorists.

Another drone who repeats something without even bothering to find out if it's true or not.
BBJ, Midwest City - Nov 6, 2009 at 11:04 am
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Chris, did you read Obama's book? Obviously not. Here is the truth about the sucker emails you like to read.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html
Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:55 am
Outlaw be careful, be very careful because I am CRAZY about the God I serve!He has never written, or hinted, that I should kill innocents, but you never know about us crazy ones! BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:39 am

I know you are joking Billy, but I don't think it's funny. The tragedy of 9/11 and the Fort Hood shooting should serve as a warning that religion can polute the brain and convince people that they should do very bad things to appease their "God". You are scary to me, you should know better but you don't.
Outlaw, Edmond - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:55 am
Chris--you are polticizing the deaths of fellow Americans. It's sick. Get help before you do what this guy did.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:47 am
Stinker, you suck anyway. You are a brainwashed Obama zombie. Let me read a quote from his book. "If I ever have to make a decision, I would have to side with my Muslim faith." Ouch, read his book morons, its in there. Sounds like an honest man to me. Go ahead and read Oddasity of lies. You might actually wise up.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:40 am
Outlaw be careful, be very careful because I am CRAZY about the God I serve!He has never written, or hinted, that I should kill innocents, but you never know about us crazy ones!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:39 am
Yes Josue, I do. He surrounds himself around corrupt people. WHy couldnt it be. He is best friends with william ayers, the leader of a continental terrorist group. Hey is a muslim and I know he is loving it. You Obama ZOmbies are brainwashed. Look at the idiot, he is destroying this country faster than Al Quieda or you tree huggers. He said I created 65,000 new jobs. Well guess what Muslim man, unemployment rose again. Answer that Obama zombies.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:38 am
Outlaw, what is funny about the Bible is that it is spiritually discerned, and a natural man like yourself, has no idea what it says or means!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:32 am
Good call, Josue.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:15 am
Josue's right. The only people to blame are the shooter and those who know him well. I've already listened to several people state they've heard strange comments and behavior coming from the shooter. There were certainly enough red flags to warrant an investigation PRIOR to the shooting.

Let's just give all of the victims a big "shout out" as that's the best consolation, yo! Word.

Craig, OKC - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:13 am
Obamas administration at its finest. That was one of our presidents followers who did this. Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:31


Chris, Really? I mean really? Do you really think that this is our current president's fault? (or any other for that matter)

Even the most blithering of idiots who comment on here can determine it's not any president's fault.

However, if you feel the need to blame the commander-in-chief, first re-read the article. You will find out that the killer had been in the military for six years. With that knowledge take a pen and paper and subtract 6 from 2009.... After you figure out that wonder of arthimetic, you can go to Wikipedia and discover who was president way back in 2003...

Idiot...



Josue, SW 29th - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:05 am
Extremely religious people are a danger to themselves and others, no matter what 'God' they are following. The bible is a collection of letters, stories, essays, etc. written by a very divergent group of people who did not worship the same "God". The Roman Catholic church gathered up all the stories, edited them for content, and then pieced together the stories that thought would advance their agenda. Many books were thrown out, usually the one's that offered an alternative to the God/Jesus/Man hierarchy. I don't see much of a difference between the various denominations of the earth. Christians and Muslims seem to have killed the most people in the name of their respective Gods.
Outlaw, Edmond - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:04 am
This guy didn't "convert" to Islam. He is of Palestinian descent. How do you figure he was "under Obamas [sic] protection"?
James, Norman - Nov 6, 2009 at 10:02 am
Execute him, bury him upside down with a bottle of jack, a bag of pork rinds. But first let every family member be allowed to throw a shoe at him before they shoot him.
Rick, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:59 am
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The bible is so full of contradictions that it can't possibly be the direct word of god.
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:55 am
Racial Profiling is the best way to catch a criminal. Anytime you see a guy that converts to Islam like he did and is under suspicion, get rid of him. Its a shame that he was under Obamas protection. Obama will get him off.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:53 am
David if it is a collection of what God "wants," why are there stories of the might men of God failing miseribly!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:51 am
Outlaw it is great that you have been taught to copy and paste, very clever. Solomon wrote much of Proverbs so what is your point. Is there air, Outlaw?
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:49 am
C'mon billy, the bible is man's interpretation of what "God" wants. It is a collection of stories written by MEN, about things they believe god did to men.
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:45 am
Outlaw since you are a unbeliever, those that penned the Bible were inspired by the Holy Spirit as to what to write. To you that would be like Casper telling someone exactly what he wanted written. Thus what we believe is this, what is written in the Bible, was inspired by God.
BILLY, MUSTANG

The fact is Billy, you don't KNOW that God inspired the writings of the bible, you only have FAITH. FAITH is belief in something that cannot be proved. Tell me this, who was inspired by God to write Proverbs?
Outlaw, Edmond - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:45 am
Well of course not Billy. I thought that is what I said and one of the points I tried to make. I failed I guess and my apologies for being unclear.
Sallie, Del City - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:43 am
Sallie, the God of the Bible, did not tell him to do this!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:32 am
Outlaw since you are a unbeliever, those that penned the Bible were inspired by the Holy Spirit as to what to write. To you that would be like Casper telling someone exactly what he wanted written. Thus what we believe is this, what is written in the Bible, was inspired by God.
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:31 am
The enemy within is no surprise. DOK printed a story not long ago about the same action, only in Iraq where 3 soldiers were killed when a so called friend directed his fire at them while acting as a comrade in arms.

This man's parents made a statement that he had been raised in America but no mention that he was a US citizen. True or not I wonder. It could also be a case of plain cowardice on his part of not wanting to be placed in the line of fire. I wonder how many more like this man might be in 'service' to our country?

This man may very well have brought "God" into the picture but God did not do this act; it was a mere mortal as usual acting on his own, bringing in God as justification for a horrific deed.
Sallie, Del City - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:30 am
We should use REAL torture on this guy and make him suffer for this.
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I wonder how many more of these guys are in our military?? Scary.. Lets send them all back!!! Reagan did it!!!
Theus, Oklahoma city - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:21 am
I Know who God is Outlaw. He has authored a book about Himself, and His plan for man! BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:30 am

Oh yeah? What book was that Billy, surely you're not talking about the Bible. God didn't write that book, several different men did.
Outlaw, Edmond - Nov 6, 2009 at 9:15 am
This had nothing to do with Obama and evrything to do with political correctness! I makes me sick that this loonitic was on the militarys radar, and they couldn't do anything less we offend the lad. Save an American, and offend the idiot!!!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:48 am
R.O.P.M.A.
K.L., warr acres - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:38 am
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Chris, Talking about your boss again? That's not nice. It could cost you your job.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:34 am
Chris -- All military personnel are followers of the President. That's their job.
Paul - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:33 am
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Obamas administration at its finest. That was one of our presidents followers who did this.
Chris - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:31 am
Good to hear this guy is alive and suffering, killing him would have only given him what he wanted. He wanted to die so he could get his 72 virgins, of course I'd be willing to bet that the 72 virgins probably aren't women like they all think.
David, Moore - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:31 am
I Know who God is Outlaw. He has authored a book about Himself, and His plan for man!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:30 am
I can't think of a more ridiculous reason to kill someone than doing it in the name of God. No one KNOWS who God is, they just have faith that they are right and others are wrong. It's the height of conceit and it's a damn shame. My condolences to the brave soldiers and civilians who were killed in this needlessly tragic event.
Outlaw, Edmond - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:18 am
That seems okay to shout, because God is great! Too bad this guy didn't know him!
BILLY, MUSTANG - Nov 6, 2009 at 8:06 am

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