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David Stanley Ford

Group is protesting Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Chad Smith's recognition
Freedmen descendants say chief’s efforts shouldn’t be supported

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Published: June 5, 2009

A small group of the Descendants of Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes Association gathered late Thursday morning outside the Skirvin Hilton Hotel in protest of Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Chad Smith.

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Inside, Smith received a Red Earth "Ambassador of the Year” award — given to an individual who has made significant contributions to presenting a more positive image of American Indians.

But according to Marilyn Vann, president of the protesting association, officials should not support his efforts.

"Chad Smith has done nothing but bring disgrace to Indian countries through his actions on the freedmen people — calling freedmen people, not Indians; treaty breaking, spending taxpayers’ money that ought to be going to services instead of actions against the freedmen.”

The controversy deals with the descendants of slaves. In 2006, however, the Cherokee Nation voted to limit tribal rolls to those with Cherokee blood.

Vann said that the freedmen came to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears with the rest of the tribes who suffered and fought hard for rights. The black freedmen have asked Congress to uphold treaties signed in 1866, allowing them access to tribal funding and continuing tribal citizenship — giving them health benefits, education and housing.

Smith said it was an honor to receive the award because he is working toward a "happy and healthy people,” where everyone helps each other through tough times.

But in response to the protesting, Smith said it is not a complicated matter.

"If they can prove geniality, they’re a member of the Cherokee Nation,” he said. "We have even paid genealogists in the Tulsa area to help descendents of freedmen and African American heritage determine the truth through documentation. The real issue here is the freedmen who have no Indian blood.”

Vann said the freedmen think it’s a matter of not being able to give big gaming money from casinos as other tribes can do.

"We don’t operate casinos, but does that mean we shouldn’t have justice?” she said. "Does that mean our rights should be taken away from us?”

Smith said anyone can drive a Volkswagen, do the chicken dance at Oktoberfest, drink German beer and claim German heritage, but it doesn’t make them German.

"The same type of thing applies for the Cherokee Nation,” he said.

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Maybe this time its early enough in the session we'll see the demise of the CNO...And the Cherokee People can set about to repair the damage by CNO. to see the bill click link http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-2761 its about the same as the old!
Hopefully the Weezle Smith is sweatin a little blood!
I know he already spinnin the lies and BS on http://www.cherokeephoenix.org/3744/Article.aspx

__________________________________________________________________________________ John Cornsilk Real Cherokee Citizen CNO member UKB too!
John, Tahlequah - Jun 10, 2009 at 3:20 pm
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Well Dang tilde you loosin it er whut? you babbled this on the other thread and here is my respose from over there:

What the hay, tilde you got a special redneck dictionary or whut? reduntant is not in my webster or my ole trusty readers Digest Thesaurus neither!! that was what I was talkin bout you tryin to be a dang spellin cop when its evident you can't speel either!

__________________________________________________________________________________ John Cornsilk Real Cherokee Citizen CNO member UKB too!
John, Tahlequah - Jun 10, 2009 at 1:04 pm
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reduntant: 1. exceeding what is required or natural 2. unnecessarily repetitive That is what all the below is, John. I know you're capable of learning...aren't you?
Matilda - Jun 10, 2009 at 11:51 am
Go ahead...talk amongst yourselves! LOL
Matilda - Jun 10, 2009 at 11:48 am
Sadly Bennie this babbling actually needs no response the sheer ignorance of the blathering is all telling of the authors knowledge or lack-there-of, that is! you can get over this ignorance if you would only go to www.cornsilks.com and read the facts... I have a history lesson there, Cherokee History 1863 to 1995 that will get you get over it good, see all three parts at http://www.cornsilks.com/johnarticles.html

__________________________________________________________________________________ John Cornsilk Real Cherokee Citizen CNO member UKB too!
John, Tahlequah - Jun 10, 2009 at 9:18 am
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two wifes chad has already served two terms as chief and then he changes the constitution to read as he wishes so he can run for a third term which is by tribal law a criminal act as well as takeing the Delawares Soverenty away from them by refazeing the treaty between the cherokees the Government and the Delawares just out of greed just as his predessors did to the Westerncherokee old settlers once they were all throwed together in the treaty with John Ross and the Government in 1839 at that time this made the CNO a group of the Westerncherokees old settlers the Kituwahsthe Delawares The
shawnees and then after the civil war the Freedman. and this land in okla was the land that the Old Settlers of Ark. Traded a part of there lands for the counties of the oklahoma area ant the cherokee strip and as everything else was stollen from the old settlers they finialy after our last chief at gore which was the last strong hold the old settlers were forced to give up to John Ross and the Old settlers were being killed by our own people so we had no choice but to go back to what lands we had left in Ark. and then The Chief that John Ross so blatently stole the headquarters with the help of the Fed. Gov. Chief Bowels a1/2 blood had to give up chiefdom ship to a 1/8 who was nt enough indian to hold the position of chief. and sence 1839 there has been no one in the office that was enough indian to hold the position and the three or four that were were just like the one in office today Greedy and what he doesn't keep for himself and a group of his sturdie followers that get there cutof the funds that are comming into the Cherokee coffers now and which the Chief along with a few of his cronnies give away to the State or to the white eliment to of the state and the crooked Lawyers that has helped to change the Treaties to read as they want and the Constitution to be so they can keep robbing the other 5 tribes that are leagly a part of the CNO and the other five tribes are the old settlers or what is now called the WCNOM - the Kituahs - the Shawnees the Delawares - and last but not least the Freedman of Cherokee blood. People like this should be shunned instead of giventhem any kind of Honers.
Bennie - Jun 9, 2009 at 12:30 pm
From the Dictator's CNO 2wife Chad Smith's site?????????????


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The Jokeman appears again today. Thank you for our daily laugh.

Chad Smith is well-respected. However, John and Archie, are not. Losers...with a Big L on their foreheads. Now there is the shame and disgrace boys.
Matilda - Jun 8, 2009 at 11:22 am
Well well tilde! Why don't you tell them where Robin and David posted these articles orinally so the folks can go there and see all sorts of factual materail on the Weezle Smith and all you CNOT-suckin fools that support his CORRUPT Junta! www.cornsilks.com then click John's Place banner! appears you are there daily, don't be depriving the world of all this poop tilde!!
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John, Tahlequah - Jun 8, 2009 at 10:32 am
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Chad Smith has done nothing but bring disgrace to Indian countries through his actions on the freedmen people — calling freedmen people, not Indians; treaty breaking, spending taxpayers’ money that ought to be going to services instead of actions against the freedmen.”
A, watauga - Jun 8, 2009 at 10:23 am
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Archie is posting others words in his name again. Robin and David wrote the below 2 posts. Archie is just not bright enough as you can read in his other posts. What a joke he is! lOL! LOL! LOL!

No fear here, Robin.
Matilda - Jun 7, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Most people know nothing of the 1970 Principal Chiefs Act or its impact on the Cherokee Nation. Basically the act provides for the popular selection of the Principal Chief (an office created by the 1839 Constitution) and the promulgation of rules to carry out the vote (since the laws of the Cherokee Nation had been suspended by the Curtis Act). The 1970 PCA provides that the Cherokees, citizens listed on the Dawes roll and their descendants shall popularly select the Cherokee Nation principal chief. The Cherokee people lack the authority to change who may or may not vote for the office of principal chief. Our "selection" of that office is NOT an exercise in sovereignty, as that had been stripped from the Cherokee Nation and her people by the Curtis Act of 1898 and the Five Tribes Act of 1906. Neither the Cherokees themselves, nor the U.S. Congress have taken any action to restore full sovereignty to the Cherokee people. Lacking the right to determine our citizenship, stripped from us by the 1906 FCT Act and the Freedmen's special status conferred by the Treaty of 1866, the Cherokee Freedmen cannot be legally excluded. The Federal Courts MUST recognize the rights of all Cherokees (Freedmen included) to "popularly select" the CN Principal Chief as provided for by the 1970 PCA. This controversy has played right into our hands and the question of the validity of the 1839 Constitution is at hand.

A, watauga - Jun 7, 2009 at 5:30 pm
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Well I see that since my calling for a petition drive to remove Chad Smith and going back and forth with Bill Davis here my name is now included in the dance at Matildas Mosh Pit. Matilda bashes Cherokee People with real names while hiding behind a pseudonym because her lack of credibility would be so easily be demonstrated with her real name. What she is doing is trying to draw out others that have bought into Chads racist propaganda to take over where she has left off. But, as we can see there, only some misguided folks without the benefit of the truth come on with feeble attempts to convince others the garbage they have swallowed is good food for thought. In conclusion I would once again point out that even a discussion of a removal petition drive puts fear deep in the heart of Chad Smith.
A, watauga - Jun 7, 2009 at 5:28 pm
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You sure are good at name calling. Who have you taken "advantage" of in your lifetime, Archie Wright?
Matilda - Jun 7, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Which set love him the ones he shows or the ones he hides?
One set is much like Chad they are Bastards.
You see everyone knows Chad was adopted into the Smith family.
Just look at his Birth Cert. and you will see.
I think his people are Mexicans.
A, watauga - Jun 7, 2009 at 12:39 pm
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LOL! LOL! LOL! Do you think you're the only one who talks to Bobbie Gail's in-law's???? No, everyone does not hate Chad Smith. In your dreams, Arch, in your dreams. All of his kids love him.
Matilda - Jun 6, 2009 at 5:47 pm
You are so funny we all know you would like to be Chad's 3rd wife.
He may be good in you view but ask his other set of kid's what they think.
I talked to one of Bobbie Smith's inlaws and he say's everyone hates Chad 2wife Smith.
His other set of children are the ones really hurt by his Bigamist way's.
A, watauga - Jun 6, 2009 at 5:08 pm
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Velma: It's among, no matter how you try to justify it, and it's terrible, not terrable! Jeez! You're a hoot and a daily laugh. You're reputation precedes you. Your little "students" tell about your flaws just as a normal person, but you tend to believe you are never wrong. Keep believing that, Honey, if that's how you get by each day.
Matilda - Jun 6, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Eli Grayson, Cornsilk's, Archie Wright, Robin Mayes, Velma, etc. etc. bring shame upon the Cherokee people. Governor Henry definitely did the correct thing. You are all the most jealous losers any tribe has ever seen. If your names are brought up in any conversation, there is instanteous laughter.
Matilda - Jun 6, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Wow, the Red Earth organization really screwed up this one. Why not chose Adolf Hitler or some past leader of the KKK. They are still racist leaders with one thing in common with Chad Smith. Their efforts to oppress minorities in their governments. Red Earth's board, including Governor Henry should be ashamed of themselves. This organization sold their soul for a few dollars from the Cherokee casino. Shame! After all the years of building good well, they sold their souls.
Eli - Jun 6, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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Joe Allen Got it right!

Many of the Cherokee Freedmen have Cherokee blood in their veins. Not all of the them are merely the descendants of slaves from Africa. Government treaty made the Freedmen members of the Cherokee Nation in Indian Territory. __________________________________________________________________________________

I the Elder Cornsilk says! BUT that is totally inconsequential to the fact of the matter, they are just as all we Cherokee, Cherokee by fact of law, we are all descendants of the Cherokee Citizens enumerated on the Dawess Rolls and blood aint got a dam thaing to do with it.
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Have you read the 1866 Treaty? As I keep saying all this information can be found at www.cornsilks.com, and so you don't have to sort through the complete Treaty you can see the pertinent Articles to the Freedmen here; www.cornsilks.com.1866excerpt.html...And Joe if you will read and pay some dang tention, NO WHERE in ANY Document will you find a blood requirement to be a Cherokee Citizen, in the 1866 Treaty, nor in the 1839 Constitution, nor the revise 1999 version of the 1975 BS called a Constitution, the ONLY reference to BLOOD requirement is in the Constitutions:"Elected Officials will be Cherokee by blood". the Cherokee have NEVER had a blood quantum, and DO-NOT today no matter what Smith and the CNOT SUCKIN Fools may say.
__________________________________________________________________________________ John Cornsilk Real cherokee
John, Tahlequah - Jun 6, 2009 at 11:36 am
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Well Matilda and all you CNOT-suckers, lemme splain the weezle Smith to you...He is NOT a Smith, he was 3 years old when his white momma maried his supposesd father who was NOT a smith either, he was born Nelson Johnson, the maiden name of his mother who claimed Khia Smith who was over seas during world war one when he impregnated her long distance i guess. This is a matter of military records.
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And folks this is all in MY family Story, YES I am related to the Smiths some of them, my maternal Grand mothers's sister Sarah "Holt" Smith wis married to Redbird Smith's #4 Son George Smith; Therefore the family tale was how did Khia impregnate this woman while over in Europe...He denied it, and Redbird proclaimed Nelson Johnson was NOT a Smith. Nelson changed his name to Smith after all had passed on that would or could object. Infact Nelson grew up hating the Smiths becaues they had denied him, and this name change was probably the weezle Smiths idea with him being a skuzzy lawyer!!
__________________________________________________________________________________ John Cornsilk Real cherokee
John, Tahlequah - Jun 6, 2009 at 11:13 am
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I think it has been posted on this site before, especially in regards some of Chad's interviews, can't remember all now, but some sitting on his grandpa's knee getting Cherokee-ness! Only to find out later, his grandpa would have been dead at the time Chad was talking about, might not all the facts, but the premise was Chad lies, even about his family history.

Got to wondering just what is his family genealogy? I hear some of the Smith family won't claim him, the very family he claims to descend from, isn't that odd?
A, watauga - Jun 6, 2009 at 6:34 am
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I think Chad 2wife Smith knew about his other set of children since the other wife lived right down the street.
The way you try to place the blame on me for bring up the fact is unfathomably.
Bigamy is still A crime in Oklahoma.

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