Hoyer, Blunt hopeful of progress on rescue bill
Hoyer, Blunt hopeful of progress on rescue bill

Associated Press
Published: October 1, 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Two House leaders said Wednesday headway is being made toward getting the $700 billion financial industry rescue bill through Congress, thanks partly to a provision increasing insurance for people's deposits. President Bush planned to call lawmakers asking for their support ahead of a crucial Senate vote Wednesday night.

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"I think the Senate thinks it has the votes and I think it probably will pass," House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said. House Republican Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri agreed that prospects for passage have improved, and he said he was particularly heartened by indications the legislation has become more appealing to constituents back home.

The plan for Wednesday night's vote was set after leaders there agreed to add tax breaks for businesses and the middle class and increase deposit insurance in an attempt to revive the legislation rejected by the House. The White House tried to build support by warning of the conseqences of failure.

"This morning we're seeing increased evidence of the credit squeeze on small businesses and municipalities all across the country, so it's critically important that we approve legislation this week and limit further damage to our economy," White House spokesman Tony Fratto said.

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and his GOP rival, John McCain, planned to fly to Washington for the Senate vote, as did Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden.

The surprise move by Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., appeared likely to win a big vote in the Senate that would put pressure on the House to go along and send the measure to the White House.

Hoyer, though, said on NBC's "Today" show he was concerned that the tax issues could complicate the chances of final congressional passage when the legislation comes back to the House floor for a vote.

"There's no doubt the tax package is very controversial," he said, adding that "there's no doubt in my mind that the Senate added this because they thought that's the only way they could get it passed." He said he wasn't pleased the tax provisions were attached to the bill.

There are concerns that moderate House Democrats known as "Blue Dogs" will be repulsed by the tax breaks, and could vote no because they have been saying they don't want to see the deficit run up even further.

Stocks headed for a lower open Wednesday, indicating more of this week's gyrations as investors prepare for next big vote in Washington.

Blunt said one of the reasons he is more optimistic is that lawmakers are hearing less vocal opposition from their districts. He said that calls and e-mails to congressional offices that were running about 90 percent against the measure earlier now are at about "50-50."

"It should be before the House as quickly as it can," Blunt said on NBC. "But we should not set any artificial time limit here." He said that is one of the factors that doomed the bill, which was defeated 228-205 Monday, sending Wall Street into a nosedive with the biggest sell-off since the post-9-11 trading period.

Both Blunt and Hoyer said they thought the atmosphere on the Hill was more conducive to passage now, saying they believe an emerging consensus on raising the federal deposit insurance to $250,000 has helped significantly and that a House vote could come later this week.

Blunt also said he believes there's a better chance of getting the legislation enacted in the wake of a move to ease Security and Exchange Commission accounting rules in a way that would give businesses more leeway in how they value their assets.

Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., emerged from a meeting Tuesday to tell told reporters, "I'm told a number of people who voted 'no' yesterday are having serious second thoughts about it."

Adding a set of popular business tax breaks and legislation to prevent more than 20 million middle-class taxpayers from feeling the bite of the alternative minimum tax promised to win House GOP votes for the plan even as it angered moderate "Blue Dog" Democrats concerned about the tax cuts adding to the deficit.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., issued a statement that suggested she does not like the move but did not reveal her plans. "The Senate will vote tomorrow night and the Congress will work its will," Pelosi said Tuesday. The expected support of both Obama and McCain, however, makes it difficult for Pelosi to ship the measure back to the Senate with a different set of vote-getting add-ons.

The Senate legislation also will contain an increase in the government's $100,000 cap on insured bank deposits, part of a move by lawmakers, Bush and the two presidential candidates to try to reassure markets that the plan will pass this week.

The House vote was a stinging setback to leaders of both parties. The administration's proposal, still the heart of the legislation under consideration, would allow the government to buy bad mortgages and other deficient assets held by troubled financial institutions. If successful, advocates of the plan believe, that would help lift a major weight off the already sputtering national economy.

The tax plan passed the Senate last week on a 93-2 vote. It included AMT relief, $8 billion in tax relief for those hit by natural disasters in the Midwest, Texas and Louisiana, and some $78 billion in renewable energy incentives and extensions of expiring tax breaks. All told, it would cost about $112 billion over five years.

In a compromise worked out with Republicans, the bill does not pay for the AMT and disaster provisions, but does have revenue offsets for part of the energy and extension measures.

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Call your politician and ask for a yes vote!!!!
D, Jeff - Oct 1, 2008 at 9:35 am
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We can start by voting the incumbants out. Your vote still means something.
jesse, oklahoma city - Oct 1, 2008 at 9:29 am
What does it matter? The politicians never listen to us anyway, no matter how much we tell them. The majority have spoken and we say no, but they will pass it anyway. The hell with us, it's a government by themselves, for themselves, and it's time we banded together and overthrew it. That's what the Constitution is for, so in the event of a government as corrupt as this, we can take it back. That time is now!
Cooter, Cooterville - Oct 1, 2008 at 8:35 am
I love how adding a few little things here and there (that have very little to do with the ACTUAL Bill) will probably get this to pass. I still am 100% against the bailout. Let Wall Street balance itself out.
Jeff, El Reno - Oct 1, 2008 at 8:25 am
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I am against the bailout or what ever you want to call it. Your leadership has caused this problem and they should be held accountable. Look how your Congress lives; nice suits, good pay (have they cut their salaries?), outstanding medical (better than the military who defends this country). Now they want the good people of this country to sacrifice. Where has Congress made their sacrifices? We are in better shape than we were in the 80's when unemployment was about 20%. I hope everyone can remember the "trickle down" stimulus plan which was a complete flop. If we live within our means we can get through this without the bailout. All quick fixes spell disaster. Tell your Congress how you feel and say NO.
jesse, oklahoma city - Oct 1, 2008 at 6:30 am
Martha, Not sure what kind of math they teach in Atoka, but your numbers don't exactly add up. Great idea, but according to your plan, 200,000,000 people would receive $425.00 not $425K. That makes our previous "vote buy" seem like a heck-of-a-deal. Now if we wanted to split AIG's proposed bailout of $85,000,000,000.00 amongst 200,000 people, they would get your figure of $425K. How would you go about choosing those "fortunate" folks? Even if the 200,000,000 people you are talking about were to split the whole $700 billion buyout proposal, it would only equate to $3500 per person. I say "only $3500", but that would be a nice boost. Back to the point, neat plan, but numbers are way off.
Jody, Edmond - Oct 1, 2008 at 6:01 am
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This is one of the biggest lies ever in US history. No bailout for these scumbags.
Tommy, Orlando - Oct 1, 2008 at 1:45 am
Call your Senators and Congressman and tell them NO on the bailout!!!Tell them that we will vote them out of office if they do...This mess was caused by our incompetent,greedy government...Enough is enough!!! Main street should not pay for Wall Streets mistakes.We the people of the United States run this country and its time to give a wake up call to Washington....CALL AND SAY NO!!!
Tommy, Orlando - Oct 1, 2008 at 1:41 am
So Bob, no home mortgage??
John, Norman - Oct 1, 2008 at 12:27 am
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Floyd, Oklahoma City - Sep 30, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Simple solution. Oral Roberts can demand God give the government the money or he will do whatever he said he would do the last time he wanted a bailout.
Floyd, Oklahoma City - Sep 30, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Martha, Atoka - Sep 30, 2008 at 5:57 pm
I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend. To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide adults in the U.S. & nbsp; Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up. So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00. My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend. Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%. Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam. But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00. What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family? Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved. Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads Put away money for college - it'll be there Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs. Buy a new car - create jobs Invest in the market - capital drives growth Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces. If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( "vote buy" ) economic incentive. If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+! As for AIG - liquidate it. Sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't. Sure it's a crazy idea that can "never work." But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! How do you spell Economic Boom? I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It!! Having to put up with Congress all these years.. more than the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC. And remember, This plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam. Ahhh...I feel so much better getting this off my chest..
Martha, Atoka - Sep 30, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Glad I grew up without a silverspoon and always remembered what my grandfather told me about the real depression....This is a good thing (wake-up call) for our country.....Grandpa Casey... "If you don't have cash for it, you don't need it"........Thanks Grandpa
bob, Oklahoma City - Sep 30, 2008 at 2:16 pm
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Heres an ideal.. Government gambling machines in every town with the 700 billion dollars plugged into all of them and each triggered to pay out 50% government gets there money to save the banks.. so taxpayers dont bail out anyone.. the economy grows with all the earning off the machines. each taxpayer..note TAXPAYER.(have to keep or have anykind of job to play(.. sounds insane..unfair to the winners and losers.. well we are going BACKWARDS and seems the old days of store credit to willing hard workers will prevail and those with not intentions on working and savings.. will suffer.. FOREIGN MARKETS WILL REINVEST when all the happy people take home all the loot and greedy powerhouses have to deal with their own down falls and face prison time for embesslment ..which IS what we are talking about.. those who knew it was wrong and enforse the outcome before bailing..MARTHA sound familar
cindy, okc - Sep 30, 2008 at 11:36 am
So, as it turns out, those fabled WMD's were actually on Wall Street?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 30, 2008 at 11:02 am
keith, Boise City - Sep 30, 2008 at 11:01 am
Everyone keeps saying that the Republicans are the party of the rich, then that leads me to believe that all of the Demos. are poor, if that is the case, how come so many people paid 28,500 dollars to have dinner with Noboma in hollywierd, and he keeps raising more money, I think there are rich Demos. somewhere, Like Geo Soros
keith, Boise City - Sep 30, 2008 at 11:00 am
Does anyone else remember last year when all of these financial firms were declaring HUGE bonuses for everyone and announcing record profits? I don't care either way about the financial bailout, as long as every single one of those who benefited from the causes of this crisis wind up cleaning toilets at their local bus stations. Most likely though, they will live the high life from their past profits while the rest of us pay for their gluttony. Sickening.
Jeff, Oklahoma City - Sep 30, 2008 at 10:46 am
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Here's my plan for what its worth. Take the money buy the so called bad debts cut stock certificates to all tax paying citizens based on their contributed percentage enforce a ten year hold on them and as they sell the assets the money is returned to an interest bearing account and when a citizen trades in his certificate he gets his percentage back. Frees up the credit crunch and replaces social security which will soon die. (STATED BELOW..not that i agree but all of us are doing exactly what they are doing.. hashing out and debaiting while it runs a muck...we are about to possibly put in a PRESIDENT with no experience... so why dont everyone cough up there own ideas and send to our congress and maybe someone will listen to us
cindy, okc - Sep 30, 2008 at 10:00 am
"The first thing I would do is say, 'Let's not call it a bailout. Let's call it a rescue," McCain said..." How about we call it a banana? I LIKE bananas...
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 30, 2008 at 9:22 am
Hey Robbin from Guthrie.... Just for the record "every" American isn't living beyond their means. Maybe you and the people you know are, but I'm not and there are plenty of other Americans just like me. I work every day, pay my bills on time and have a bit of a nest egg. Don't sully me or other fellow Americans with your flippant use of every. Would I vote for the bail out? NO NO NO NO NO! Kick the greedy Wall St CEO's to the curb with empty pockets. If you feel you contributed to the problem, you need to hit the curb, too.
Jacklyn, Yukon - Sep 30, 2008 at 8:51 am
These scumbags want me and other Amercicans to bailout them for there mistakes?...Think again idiots
Tommy, Orlando - Sep 30, 2008 at 2:43 am
These scumbags want me and other Amercicans to bailout them for there mistakes?...Think again idiots
Tommy, Orlando - Sep 30, 2008 at 2:43 am
The Democrats the votes to pass this bill but,40% them voted it down...We the American People should not have to bail out these thieves on wall street for there greed..Its time to take our country back!!!
Tommy, Orlando - Sep 30, 2008 at 2:41 am
One more time, for those who might have missed it: Folks, there are a lot of irresponsible, greedy savants out there demanding a welfare bailout check for their own bad decisions. It is IMPERATIVE that you write and call your congressman and both our state Senators to keep the pressure on. I have already done so once, and intend to make a follow-up call to all three tomorrow. Simply Google the name of your congressman, and in most case you will get a link to a website that will have their office numbers. A follow-up email is also quite helpful: call first, leave your name, where you live, and state your opinion about stopping this Corporate Welfare Giveaway, then write a follow-up email and send to them along the lines of "I spoke to you today about opposing this 700 Billion dollar welfare check to irresponsible deadbeats," something like that. They are regrouping to grab our money again, so it's important to call!
Jason, Edmond - Sep 30, 2008 at 1:21 am
One more time, for those who might have missed it: Folks, there are a lot of irresponsible, greedy savants out there demanding a welfare bailout check for their own bad decisions. It is IMPERATIVE that you write and call your congressman and both our state Senators to keep the pressure on. I have already done so once, and intend to make a follow-up call to all three tomorrow. Simply Google the name of your congressman, and in most case you will get a link to a website that will have their office numbers. A follow-up email is also quite helpful: call first, leave your name, where you live, and state your opinion about stopping this Corporate Welfare Giveaway, then write a follow-up email and send to them along the lines of "I spoke to you today about opposing this 700 Billion dollar welfare check to irresponsible deadbeats," something like that. They are regrouping to grab our money again, so it's important to call!
Jason, Edmond - Sep 30, 2008 at 1:20 am
Dan Boren and Tom Cole, who both voted for the bailout, make more from the banking and finance industry than the rest of the Oklahoma representatives combined. They are on the take.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 11:29 pm
As a conservative and a capitalist I am torn over the issue because the though of it hurts my insides and the people being blamed by the media is as far off base as you can get, but when I look at the debt you are worried about I don’t see toxic I see great opportunity. These are asset based securities who are paying all be it some aren’t but most are and they are certainly worth more than the 20 cents especially if you have the nut to hold them for 5 yrs and then even if they don’t pay the asset is worth way more than the initial investment. I just wish it was a private sector deal that multiple investors got into that bought and pulled the paper from the market and sold at a later date. I also have to be realistic in my opposition if certain entities fail they can and will affect everyday lifestyle so with all the useless nonsense that the spend happy Democrats throw my money at I guess shoring up the economy in any way possible is the lesser of many other evils. Its not like if they don’t spend the 700 Billion on this they are going to mail it back to us they will just waste it somewhere else. I agree on the cleanliness of the fair I haven’t been in years to either but what I remember of the two goes along with what you are saying I am currently staying at my OKC home.
Brent, Jenks - Sep 29, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Let's all take a deep breath and relax. Let the institutions resolve this problem. Impeach and indict the politicians who are responsible for this mess, like Barney Franks. The upshot of all this will be that only creditworthy people and businesses will get credit---I know I know---SHOCKING!!!!!!
Bill, tulsa - Sep 29, 2008 at 6:39 pm
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Brent, what I particularly oppose is the assumption of so-called "toxic debt," though I am generally opposed to ANY transfer of public funds to mitigate private losses when those losses were incurred in an attempt to profit financially. BTW, off-topic, I was at the Tulsa Fair yesterday, it is a cleaner, better run fair than the one we have in OKC, IMHO. Your expo building is also much nicer (and bigger).
Jason, Edmond - Sep 29, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Matt, the Government is non profit. They are not in the business to make money. Taxpayers will never reap any profits. The decision is not about what is in it for us, but, what is in it for big business. And the Democrats throw in more freebies for the Welfare addicts. You know, the ones that won't get up and go to work to begin with. The ones that think everyone owes them because they have always been discriminated against, or are illegal or just made the wrong decision when they bought their homes with a variable rate interest. If the system fails, let it fail. We will be a better country for it. The citizens will learn to take care of their own affairs without expecting someone else to bail them out. I have no responsibility to pay someone else's debts. I pay my bills, so I expect everyone else to pay their's. The USA has gone thru this before and survived, and it will this time.
We, ThePeople - Sep 29, 2008 at 6:04 pm
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I am just curious here not arguing with you but can you tell me exactly which part of the bill you oppose Jason? Before you get all heated and all I oppose corporate welfare and hate the thought of the government beign involved in anything other than sweeping the streets and cleaning fountains in the park. Just want to know specifically what you oppose because corporate welfare is pretty broad.
Brent, Jenks - Sep 29, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Folks, there are a lot of irresponsible, greedy savants like those crybabying on this forum over the defeat of the bill, out there demanding a welfare bailout check for their own bad decisions. It is IMPERATIVE that you write and call your congressman and both our state Senators to keep the pressure on. I have already done so once, and intend to make a follow-up call to all three tomorrow. Simply Google the name of your congressman, and in most case you will get a link to a website that will have their office numbers. A follow-up email is also quite helpful: call first, leave your name, where you live, and state your opinion about stopping this Corporate Welfare Giveaway, then write a follow-up email and send to them along the lines of "I spoke to you today about opposing this 700 Billion dollar welfare check to irresponsible deadbeats," something like that. They are regrouping to grab our money again, so it's important to call!
Jason, Edmond - Sep 29, 2008 at 5:48 pm
So...does this mean that since there is allegedly so much real estate in receivership, my property taxes will NOT go up 5% like clockwork this year, as in the last few years?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Paris, your 90 year old momma's money would not be in AIG if you had not put it there. Any person that lived thru the depression knows better. Maybe you got a little greedy with her money? Maybe you wanted to benefit your retirement?
We, ThePeople - Sep 29, 2008 at 5:42 pm
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Good point Matt I do feel like the labeling of this thing has given some people the impression they are stroking a check to the major Firms or CEO's which isn’t the case. My concern is what happens when they did turn a profit as I think they will. In the original draft useless organizations like ACORN who helped drive the unqualified borrowers initiative put forth by Clinton received huge amounts of the profit. This is the same group that has been indicted in several states for voter fraud(signing up dead people and felons) and as a side note the talking suit Obama is a trainer for them(completely different rant). This was and is unacceptable if they clean it up and pass it purely as a government investment with the intention of reselling the assets and returning the funds to the treasury or better yet us I am ok with it begrudgingly.
Brent, Jenks - Sep 29, 2008 at 4:55 pm
you guys act like a failed wall street wont effect us. that is so ignorant. banks will stop investing, which will eventually freeze up the economy. it will be horrible if this doesnt pass. yes, wall street messed up, but it was not just them. it was everybody who took the loans, therefore we all must help fix this. and remember, the government may possibly turn a profit from this plan.
matt - Sep 29, 2008 at 4:34 pm
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Tu, you're such the intellectual. This is great for America, the people have spoken. Wall street got greedy and now they have to suck on their glutony.....and hopefully learn a lesson out of it.....hopefully....
bob, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 4:12 pm
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Now is 3:50 PM on September 29, 2008, My wife and kids are still healthy. My health is OK. I still got a job. Dinner will be ready in a few hours as usual. I took a big lick in my 401K but I know that we’ll get back. And even if it does not get back to where I wanted, I still got my family. That’s my perspective. I’m just a middle class American but I know somewhere in this world, there’re many people having it much worse than I’m now and I thank God for this.
trung, oklahoma city - Sep 29, 2008 at 3:56 pm
One thing that is truly emerging in this unfolding drama is the widening rift between Chamber of Commerce Republicans and Real Republicans. Living here in Edmond, I run into a lot of the former. They are the guys who don't care how many illegal immigrants come flooding across the border - in fact, the more the merrier as far as they're concerned. All that cheap labor. When one points out that allowing that to rage unchecked destroys the sovereignty of the country, they will tell you frankly (and privately) that they don't believe in the concept of "the country" any longer; that it's a "world economy" and borders should no longer exist, or at least not be enforced. They are the same group of folks who squawk the loudest about the wonders of the "free market," but are always the first in line for a government handout if their risky investments don't pay off. They were the same ones cheerleading the loudest for this 700 Billion corporate welfare bailout. Now, I get along with these guys on a personal level - I pretty much have to, since a good many of them are my neighbors. But on a political level, these guys are vultures who will frankly confess that their primary concern is not what's good for the country, but what's good for their portfolio's. Today they and the open-ended socialists on the Democratic side of the equation lost, and that's a good thing for the rest of us.
Jason, Edmond - Sep 29, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Here's my plan for what its worth. Take the money buy the so called bad debts cut stock certificates to all tax paying citizens based on their contributed percentage enforce a ten year hold on them and as they sell the assets the money is returned to an interest bearing account and when a citizen trades in his certificate he gets his percentage back. Frees up the credit crunch and replaces social security which will soon die.
Brent, Jenks - Sep 29, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I wonder if she was busy with some action group or New York Times interview when Clinton pushed his housing initiative down our throats that caused this mess. She must get her History lessons from Biden.
Brent, Jenks - Sep 29, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Pelosi is a disgrace.
Brent, Jenks - Sep 29, 2008 at 3:30 pm
What says Madame DeFarge? Is it time yet to apply the National Razor?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 3:29 pm
"They claim to be free market advocates when it's really an anything-goes mentality: No regulation, no supervision, no discipline. And if you fail, you will have a golden parachute and the taxpayer will bail you out. Those days are over. The party is over," Pelosi said. - and this is the same Pelosi that voted for the taxpayer funded bailout. Go figure.
Kerry, Jacksonville - Sep 29, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Just in case anyone cares, but the only ones who can get rid of Frank and Dodd are the citizens of their respective states, and they could care less about the political opinions of conservative Okies. I'm glad the bailout failed. Good enough for 'em.
J, Anonymous - Sep 29, 2008 at 2:39 pm
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since when does an urgent warning from Bush mean anything? He lied about an "urgent" need for war in Iraq due to WMD and a connection with Al-queda and look how that turned out.
Andrew, unlisted - Sep 29, 2008 at 2:35 pm
If the Democrats wanted to pass this then they would have and could have done it.40% of them voted no as well as the Republicans.
Tommy, Orlando - Sep 29, 2008 at 2:33 pm
On a related note: Kenneth, Norman, I'll bet YOU'RE the one "babbling" now, crybaby. Go snivel us up a river somewhere - your cherished corporate welfare handout has gone down in well-deserved defeat.
Jason, Edmond - Sep 29, 2008 at 2:17 pm
For once, the *vox populi* was heard, and the will of the American people prevailed. All the slobbering nonsense about "the next Great Depression" and "it's gotta pass" and "you're being naive" dashed itself to pieces against the firm logic that said: "No - we the people did not make these financial mistakes. Bail your own selves out, instead of asking for a 700 Billion corporate welfare check." This is a great day to be an American.
Jason, Edmond - Sep 29, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Once again the people of this country have been hosed by the democrats and there cronies. 2 years ago, they pushed for change and boy did we ever get it. Nazi Polosi and her gang have screwed things up so bad in less than 2 years it isn't even funny. And they still want us to vote for Obama Ben Laden for more of there "change". These CEO's and CFO's who made these bad discisions should be rounded up, all of there millions and billions of dollars they took in pay should be used to pay for this mess!!!! And then sent to prision for the rest of their lives penniless just the way they have left the companies they have run into the ground. A vote for Obama Ben Laden or any of Nazi Polosi's buddies will finish off this country for sure. It will make the great depression look like a party.
Mark, Lilburn - Sep 29, 2008 at 1:55 pm
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Are you stupid Republicans still winning the war-?
Miguel, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 1:53 pm
We're all worried about losing our jobs," Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., declared......Bob declares..."Be glad you're not being voted out!"
bob, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 1:51 pm
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this has to be the worst fleecing of the the americas since the white man destroyed the indian nations. what a stupid move. remind me to start a company next year dealing with people's money and then remind me to run it into the ground making bad loans and then remind me of this day so i can use it to get bailed out AND retain my multi-million dollar salary. use that money for the american people NOT the corporations who made stupid decisions. once again, they went for the quick profits and lost their a$$ and now we have to bail them out. Well, we don't HAVE to but Bush is going to make sure his buddies are taken care of BEFORE the American people. Oh wait, don't the Iraqi's need their cut of this plan? What the government is saying is "screw the american people", take care of the corporations and hey, let's make all of our junk in China. I want to move to Canada.
JenniRules, OakCity - Sep 29, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Like the "economic stimulus" checks worked? LOL!!!! That put social security 97 billion in the hole for 2010. Smart....
James, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Bush was very confident of finding WMDs too. I'm still wary if he's confident if this bailout will help the economy.
Scott, Norman - Sep 29, 2008 at 10:48 am
We are not holding these politicians accountable, including the Democrats who have ruled Congress for 2+ years and who have controlled the banking industry committees for decades. Where is the outrage? They are spending your and my retirement and enslaving our kids to centuries of unretireable debt.
Bill, tulsa - Sep 29, 2008 at 10:21 am
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Ever lend money to a bum? Well, you're targeted as an easy mark if you lend them money the first time. What's to keep the Gov. from coming to us again once we lend them money in this fashion this time? Is $700 billion enough? Are you sure? Maybe we could rake up a few hundred billion more if you need it, or even a couple of trillion if you think it will get you by. Well, we're just made of money. Of course we want to spend more thousands of dollars to keep our investments safe. We are just dumb sheep and you are playing all the cards for us. The gov. hasn't been of and for the people for so long, we've forgotten who really runs this country. Go ahead and goose us again, you fat cats in Washington and Wall Street. I couldn't expect you to live within your means and use money responsibly. That's not in your nature.
Mike, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 10:14 am
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I'll be the first to admit I know little about 'business,' though it would appear Greenspan had a great deal to do with the current fiasco. There seems to have been for some time a dynamic of when a new CEO takes charge, immediately that corporation goes through layoffs of higher paid employees in order to cut labor costs and articially raise value of stock, at least until the new CEO is able to exercise stock options. With Greenspan, it seemed like he had a habit of lowering the prime interest rate in order to artificially stimulate the stock market. From my limited understanding, the impression I get is we are now paying the piper, or at least poised to do so. If my perception is inaccurate, I'm sure an onslaught of bloggers will set me straight...
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 10:11 am
So here we are...poised on the brink of the 2nd Great Depression because of irresponsible lenders, lendees, and lax government and industry standards. We never could afford universal health insurance. Where would we get the money? We never could afford to regulate teh insurance industry because they have too many lobbyists in Washington. We've let it go until now it's either give them their stinking money or they will collapse the economy of America. This is the worst administration in the history of the United States. It waited to act until all his cronies were good and rich, and all the CEOs got their ultra-high bonuses for collapsing once-good businesses, and now he comes to the American people - unrepentant, it seems - to beg for more and more, and more - and this is a lame duck who would want us to go to war with Iran and Pakistan and perhaps Russia too before he left office. Yes, he's really screwed things up for this country. Shouldn't we have impeached him a long time ago? And Cheney too? Now we have this on our hands. Don't you feel cheap and used?
Mike, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 9:50 am
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Kevin, It is a shame, isn't it? Worse, I don't see it changing any time soon. Bill, I hear you. There are more folks to blame than just Dodd and Franks. Where is the outcry?
Andrew, unlisted - Sep 29, 2008 at 9:48 am
I have a hard time understanding why we are not pursuing the people responsible for this debacle accountable. Barney Franks is an idiot and is the primary person in Congress who threatened and extorted the banks and mortgage companies to make 1000's of these bad loans to people who did not deserve them. He repeatedly took money from Fannie Mae while telling the public as recently as 10 months ago that the loan system was "sound" and "just fine". He should be investigated, impeached and indicted. Same with Chris Dodd. Where is the public outcry???
Bill, tulsa - Sep 29, 2008 at 9:41 am
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Andrew, it's a rotten shame regarding the choices we have been offered for our democratic/plutocratic election. For some time now, my selection has only been based upon who I think will do the least harm. I can't remember the last time I actually voted 'for' someone...
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2008 at 9:24 am
I have a problem believing anything that comes out of President Bush's mouth. Does anyone out there realize that Bush concocted the reasons for the war in Iraq? Does anyone out there realize how much the war is costing us? This administration has lied like hell to us. Further, individual politicians in each party can be blamed for the economic issues / bailout we are going to be suffering for. The government is mostly comprised of individuals who are looking out for their own personal best interests and not the average citizen. One day last week I listed to a "liberal" talk radio show and then a "conservative" talk radio show. To hear each side's comment on our economic woes was amazing. Each side blamed the other and blamed NO RESPONSIBILITY at all on their side. NONE! How can this be? I'm not sure who I will vote for this coming election but my decision will come down to who I think the lesser of two evils is.
Andrew, unlisted - Sep 29, 2008 at 8:42 am
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