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ID’s may aid Mexican nationals who live in Oklahoma
IMMIGRATIONConsulate visit provides documents

BY JOHNNY JOHNSON    Comments Comment on this article25
Published: October 26, 2008

Hundreds of Mexican nationals who live in Oklahoma spent Saturday morning at Chelino’s restaurant in Bricktown, where the Mexican consulate from Little Rock, Ark., had set up a temporary office.


A Mexican national living in Oklahoma gets her photo taken for a Meixcan ID card Saturday morning at Chelino’s restaurant in Oklahoma City. PHOTO BY JOHNNY JOHNSON, THE OKLAHOMAN

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Some were in line for passports, but most were requesting matriculas consulares, popular Mexican ID cards that are not legally recognized in Oklahoma under the state’s tough immigration law.

The 650 people who showed up represent a small portion of Oklahoma’s immigrants who need the consul’s documentation services.

Proving identity
Andres Chao, Mexican consul in Little Rock, said many local Hispanic immigrants have trouble getting state-issued IDs, because they do not have their birth certificates or other documents.

Matriculas, while not recognized as official IDs by the state, are useful for opening bank accounts and proving identity, he said.

Sergio, a roofer who did not give his last name, was among those waiting to get a consular card. He said he came to Oklahoma from Durango, Mexico, about 12 years ago, and he and his wife are raising two U.S.-born children.

He said HB 1804 has not negatively affected his family or friends.

Open communication
Chao said the Mexican consulate respects state laws, but the best way to work together is to keep the channels of communication open.

Chao’s consulate opened in April 2007 and has issued more than 30,000 documents to Mexicans in Arkansas, eastern Oklahoma and western Tennessee.

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THIS IS TRUELY A CRIMINAL ACT!
All 'Sanctuary city, counties & States' should be held accountable and the pro-illegal immigration special interest behind it. File a 'CLASS ACTION' lawsuit in Federal Court. Because these locations are aiding and abetting illegal immigration.

If I was a wealthy person, a pro-sovereignty, anti-illegal immigrant attorney, I'd go after the Governors, Mayors and elected officials, employers who get caught. They are traitors to the true AMERICAN PEOPLE. The real citizens and the immigrants who waited for years patiently to come here.

It cost's $240.00 in my state to file a federal court case. Find an honest attorney and get the ball rolling. I for one will add my name to any judicial complaint. After that, millions of taxpayers will join in...? In San Francisco, a citizen filed a lawsuit and won against overwhelmingly odds, against the Liberal local government, against the ACLU, against the La Raza and all the other pro-illegal alien zealots.

Some Americans don't cower in a dark corner, when the word 'Racist' is yelled-out!

Incidentally, there is an estimated 37 million according to the Tucson sector Border Patrol union local 2544 (with an additional half-million coming every year) a massive financial impact on our economy by importing the worlds poor.

2. The Americans who are losing jobs to cheap immigrant labor. In a 1996 study, a Rice University economist estimated that illegal aliens were then displacing 730,000 American workers a year.

3. The costs to taxpayer for welfare, emergency medical services, education, law enforcement and incarceration for "illegal immigrants" and their dependents -and thousands of State, county welfare is estimated at more than a Trillion dollars.

4. The opportunities for terrorists to spend some time in Mexico, learn Spanish and infiltrate our borders.

The border fence has never built to original planned because the Democrats in a secret session, gutted funding.
Dave, Indianapolis - Oct 27, 2008 at 5:52 pm
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Mexican nationals. How does one know they are from Mexico without any papers for identification? Could they be from another country and hiding the past they had? Who are we giving another, possibly a different ID to? Your guess is as good as mine. This type of caring will get this country in alot of trouble. Thanks Mexico.
smark, Oklahoma City - Oct 27, 2008 at 5:23 am
Dear Legislators,

Mandate, AND STRICTLY ENFORCE, E-Verify for ALL employers, for ALL employees, and for ANY benefit, and the I.C.E. raids, as well as all of the expemsive new detention facilities, would not be needed.

The illegals would have to begin leaving of their own accord.

Think of the economic effect of giving the 8.7 million jobs, that the illegals have illegally obtained, using forged, or stolen documents, back to Americans.

Think of the economic effect of 65 billion more dollars being spent in our United States, rather than being remitted to Mexico, and South America.

Think of the money saved by decreasing I.C.E.'s effort.

Think of it, and then let's do it!!!
Buzz, Cupertino - Oct 26, 2008 at 11:49 pm
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ENFORCE OUR LAWS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!!

THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!!

OUR ACCEPTABLE IMMIGRATION REFORM

#1. Make Illegal Entry a Felony Permanently Barring Citizenship
#2. Secure Our Borders with our National Guard!!!
#3. Mandate E-Verify for ALL Employees!!!
#4. Cut Off ALL Public Assistance to Illegals and Their Children!!!
#5. Stop the Underground Economy!!!
#6. End Birthright Citizenship for Illegals!!!
......and make it retroactive!!!
#7. End Chain Migration!!!
#8. Make English our Official Language!!!
#9. Cut Off Federal Funds to Sanctuary Cities!!

NOTHING MORE!!! NOTHING LESS!!!
Buzz, Cupertino - Oct 26, 2008 at 11:45 pm
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STOP THE INVASION!!!

SOUTHWEST BORDER APPREHENSIONS (Source DHS/CBP)
1987--1,190,488------1995--1,394,554------2003----905,065
1988--1,008,145------1996--1,649,986------2004--1,139,282
1989----954,243------1997--1,412,953------2005--1,189,108
1990--1,169,939------1998--1,555,776------2006--1,071,972
1991--1,197,875------1999--1,537,000------2007----858,638
1992--1,258,482------2000--1,643,679------2008----723,825
1993--1,327,259------2001--1,235,718------2009----(beginning 10/01)
1994--1,094,717------2002----929,809

FACT: In the last 22 years, over 26 million illegals, have been apprehended, crossing our Southwest Border.

THE PROBLEM IS: Less than 1, out of 4 illegals, were estimated to have been apprehended, while crossing the border, into our United States.

Mind boggling, isn't it.

According to the U.S. Immigration Service another 6 million illegals in this country are visa overstays. That is, they got a visa legally in their home country, they came here to visit and then they never left.

In the last 22 years, there have been another 4 million anchor babies born to illegals. Anchor babies are now being born at a rate of 350-400 thousand per year in our United States. All at our expense!!

Then the ANCHOR BABIES qualify for welfare, food stamps, section-8 housing, all at our expense.

American Taxpayers are getting screwed, over, and over, and over, again!!!

Each illegal immigrant, on average, costs taxpayers $9,000 PER YEAR, over, and above, anything they might contribute in taxes!!!
Buzz, Cupertino - Oct 26, 2008 at 11:44 pm
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IF they are not using food stamps, they are paying sales tax, though technically, there are far more whites than any other ethnicity on food stamps, or any other social support mechanism, for that matter...
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Oct 26, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I don't eat at chelino's anyway, it's always like going to little mexico and the 1st language there is of course spanish, which I do not understand. But at least I don't see these illegal non taxpayors in the line at the store with carts full of food they buy with our taxes!! I don't think our church will even help without an ID saying they are legal. So what bank accepts these kind of Id's? FAA on western in south OKC maybe? Thats why I closed my account there is because they were always busy cashing their checks and again I could not understand the teller with her spansh accent!!
Jo, Tinker/Metro - Oct 26, 2008 at 8:04 pm
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Amy, For a good look at the violence of the American Indian a thousand or so years ago, please visit the Frank Phillips Woolaroc Museum outside of Bartlesville. I was amazed at the cruelty.
Floyd, Oklahoma City - Oct 26, 2008 at 4:51 pm
amy/todd wrote: "but it was a rarity that an indian would take the life of another indian"____ todd, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen written on the internets. Besides being ahistorical, it's just plain silly. amy/todd wrote: "Human sacrifice was a ritual of the Mayans, Aztecs and Incan tribes not the Northern tribes"____Not exclusively, but let's put that aside: I said "Western hemisphere." Reading is fun, if you take it slow. amy/todd wrote: "Please Jason, dear come clean and recognize what your ancestors did and how you have come to profit as a white man"_____I'm rather proud of what my "ancestors" did: they established the freest, richest, most powerful democracy ever known to mankind. That democracy has time and again saved the entire world from the tyrannies of such as Adolf Hitler, and the communist bloc, just to name a few. There is absolutely nothing to apologize for that history does not already adequately highlight as a wrong, and much to be proud of. No thanks._____amy/todd wrote: "A white man teaching an ignorant indian all that he doesnt know" amy/todd, you're no more an "indian" than my kitty cat is. Time for someone to double up on their meds.
Jason, Edmond - Oct 26, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Jason, you are funny. A white man teaching an ignorant indian all that he doesnt know. Yes we migrated 15,000 years ago!!! Into unoccupied lands. Yes, there was intertribal rivalries but it was a rarity that an indian would take the life of another indian. Now take their horses thats another thing.Human sacrifice was a ritual of the Mayans, Aztecs and Incan tribes not the Northern tribes of what is now the United States. Please Jason, dear come clean and recognize what your ancestors did and how you have come to profit as a white man. It is absolutely amazing the genocide that your race has accomplished and will not admit to. Atonement can be enlightening if you allow it.
amy, oklahoma city - Oct 26, 2008 at 2:14 pm
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Kevin, that's a spot-on analysis. My only disagreement would be with characterizing them as "communists" - they are more like the ante-bellum plantation owners in the South, with the illegal immigrants being their slaves. They simply love to exploit that cheap labor, the cheaper the better, and it is this exploitation that is the modern day moral equivalent of slavery. That makes Roy Williams, along with the rest of the current leadership of the OKC chamber of commerce, the modern-day moral equivalent of advocates for slave-holding - which they most certainly are.
Jason, Edmond - Oct 26, 2008 at 2:09 pm
amy, before Europeans arrived here the Western hemisphere was hardly a peaceful paradise. The tribes who'd migrated over from Asia (which was all humans present pre-Columbus) were locked in a constant, cruel cycle of internecine warfare, barbaric religious rites that involved human sacrifice, and non-stop small-scale genocidal atrocities committed against one another in the cause of obtaining fresh hunting grounds. So spare us, please, the self-righteous blather, and get thee hence to a library and study some actual history. The past is not a *Dances with Wolves* video.
Jason, Edmond - Oct 26, 2008 at 2:00 pm
How's that 401k? Guess you won't be retiring after all. How about those investments--How they lookin'? All because of "illegal immigration"--Poor, silly, easily-tricked and distracted you. You thought other poor people had your money-! Maybe gay people have your money-! You should look there. But whatever you do...don't look at the rich and powerful, that money came from outerspace.
Miguel, Oklahoma City - Oct 26, 2008 at 11:57 am
Are you racists still trying to sell illegal immigration as THE cause of our economic troubles? Yeah...that didn't work out.(by-the-way THAT'S COMMUNISM) Try FreddyMac, Fannie May, Bear Stearns, the Republican Party ...and the like. Unfortunately, for you, the TRUTH is out---and we ain't buying your s--- no more-!
Miguel, Oklahoma City - Oct 26, 2008 at 11:42 am
There is no way that this country will rid itself of illegal immigrants. The United States was built on people arriving from other countries. I think that its a scary thought for white Americans to think that they might become a minority at some point. And this will happen much sooner than later. It will be okay though....those things that you (and your ancestors) did to us (and our ancestors)we wont do to you.
amy, oklahoma city - Oct 26, 2008 at 11:41 am
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Thanks to legal challenges financed by our Chambers of Communism, the intent of HB 1804 has been pretty well gutted. As the Chambers of Communism are privately funded by local businessmen, unfortunately, they can't be simply voted out of office.
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Oct 26, 2008 at 11:16 am
Opening bank accounts without a social security card? Sign me up!
M, oklahoma city - Oct 26, 2008 at 10:05 am
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A framer I know had gotten rid of his crew of illegals last year when the law first went into effect, but after a year now and there hasn't been a single case filed under 1804 he has put most all of them back to work.
Fred, Gotebo - Oct 26, 2008 at 8:51 am
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When are they going to start enforcing 1804? Obviously this Sergio is not in this country legally but still is working roofing and he says that it has not negatively affected him. I thought that was what this law was for? Why isn't there an ICE presence at these "consulates" when obviously anyone that needs one of these cards are in the country without proper documentation.
Fred, Gotebo - Oct 26, 2008 at 8:40 am
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The only people that need these Matricula Consular cards for ID are Illegal Aliens. The people that come here legally already have ID. You in OK have a good immigration law, is this law not being enforced? You need to be up in arms that the Mexican Consulate is able to come to your state and aid and abet illegal aliens. Call your politicians and demand that this operation stop at once.
Bobbie, Myrtle Beach - Oct 26, 2008 at 8:27 am
Yet another reason not to patronize Chelino's (besides the kerappy food).
Sheila, Edmond - Oct 26, 2008 at 8:07 am
total BS, send these illegals home to mexixo
James, Myrtle Beach - Oct 26, 2008 at 7:26 am
as normal the unoklahoman is try desperately to use the word "imigrants" which is not at all the case. these people are here by breaking our laws and are nothing more than "criminals". why was not ICE there and deporting this criminal slime!
richard, oklahoma city - Oct 26, 2008 at 7:14 am
you would think they would do this at a more respectable location then chelinos.
matt, okc - Oct 26, 2008 at 2:17 am
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