Letters to the Editor: Sunday, August 31, 2008
Letters to the Editor: Sunday, August 31, 2008

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Published: August 31, 2008

Government subsidizes inefficiency
I'm mad as a hornet about our federal government's attitude toward domestic energy woes. Its most generous subsidies are going toward "green” energy sources such as wind and solar power and biofuels, all of which have two things in common: They're heavily subsidized and comprise a very small proportion of our viable energy sources.

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The energy sources that are least viable are the ones I'm being forced to support with my taxes and the ones that are most viable (coal, oil, natural gas and nuclear energy) are the sources we're being kept from accessing through burdensome regulations and taxes. I know several old-timers who can tell about the days before the prohibitive government regulations on oil refining. They didn't have to go very far to find a productive oil refinery helping to fuel America. They've become so rare lately because of adversarial government policy concerning how petroleum is to be refined.

Congress and the president need to lift all government regulations concerning exploration of energy sources. No subsidies are needed. Just get off the backs of those who are trying to keep us independent of terrorist nations and supplying us once again with cheap, safe, reliable energy.

Scott Esk, Oklahoma City

Making a mess
When Bill Clinton left office in January 2001, he left a federal budget surplus of $127 billion. President Bush ran a budget deficit of $319 billon in 2005. The deficit will hit $482 billion in the 2009 budget year. The Republicans had the majority in Congress for the first six years Bush was in office. The Democrats didn't take control of the Congress until the midterm elections in 2006.

I continually hear Democrats being blamed for the mess our economy is in. Take a closer look at who's to blame. The math doesn't add up.

Mary Anne Henry, Oklahoma City

Revive state inspections
Bravo to Ken Lisle (Your Views, Aug. 23) for his comments regarding unsafe autos. He hit the nail on the head by referring to many of the vehicles on our highways resembling those found in Third World countries. We've all seen vehicles held together with duct tape, bumpers and fenders flapping wildly as they fly down the road at breakneck speeds. How many times have you braced yourself for the inevitable rear-end collision when you see a vehicle looming in the rearview mirror and brakes screeching loud enough to raise the dead? How many times have the fumes from a neighboring car almost choked you into a coma?

Yes, our roads are teeming with unsafe vehicles driven by irresponsible people who don't care for their safety or anyone else's. I believe the majority would agree something needs to be done, but the resounding argument will lie with the cost to re-establish, maintain and oversee an annual inspection program. I wouldn't mind paying for a comprehensive safety inspection.

Let's do something now before Oklahoma ends up at the top of another national list with negative connotations.

Elane Peek, Midwest City

Lasting bases needed
Because of the tremendous effort by our amazing troops, Iraq has free elections and a democratic government. Now that government and the people want the U.S. to leave. President Bush has made a tentative agreement for this to happen by 2011. If Iraq wants us to leave, let's do it. But we need an agreement that allows the U.S. to have its permanent bases in Iraq to make sure that democracy stands firm. Then our wonderful fighting men and women can come home, Iraq can spend its own money taking care of itself and our deficits can come down by the hundreds of billions of dollars.

Andrew Case, Oklahoma City


 


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gregory, just like a true demoliar, pass the buck or just spin it away from the point it belongs in. demoliars get their name because they NEVER tell the truth (just their version / lie)
richard, oklahoma city - Sep 1, 2008 at 9:12 am
Chris, So Clinton orgered the fed buildings to be beef up as he sat back and did virtually nothing aboput terroism. Just beef up the buildings and maybe they can survive the terrorist attacks. Big Deal
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 10:09 pm
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Even many right wingers will privately admit that Bush blundered by not keeping a full front on bin Laden in Afghanistan. And if the U.S. resorts to torture than we are no longer morally above our enemies that practice torture. And by the way, for those that said Clinton did nothing before 9-11, many Federal offices, especially of certain departments, had new construction and access requirements after the OKC bombing. And yes I know this for a fact because I was managing a building that our "tenant" had to tear apart and rebuild as a requirement of extending their lease. The construction aspects were amazing.
Chris, Oklahoma City - Aug 31, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Gregory what were the dems doing about terroissm pre 9-11 abosolutly nothing. They even had bin laden and clinton chose to let him go. You are sitting there telling Bert that the repubs are blaming dems while your blaming repubs. I'll say this this when we were attacked Bush did something, but we are also dealing with other countries. I believe in total war but nowadays we have too many like you that want to micro manage the war. We are too rough on our enemies, The US should be tortured but not allow to water board, The US shouldn't retaliate with torture when our own are being beheaded. You guys make me sick, no matter what we do it isn't right according to you unless it's your idea. Its' about being a Bush hater and all rich are republicans. You scream about this wind power but like anything else it has it's flaws many birds are being killed by these machines they take away from beautiful landscapes. You want alternative energy but fail to realize we will still need oil regardless and alt won't happen overnight so your arguing is null and void. The poor ammerican working man needs fuel and the cheapest possible for him to survive but that doesn't matter. Talk about out of touch with reality. Look Clinton should have nailed bin laden but didn't, Bush is still on the hunt. If this country would let our military do it's job he would be dead. we don't want spies or any secrets on intelligence. Maybe Bush didn't metion Bin Laden because he was trying to keep intelligence to ourselves. I mean your hammering on Bert like everything you say is right and he is wrong, the man has lived and worked all over the world and with that comes wisdom.
jeff, Harrah - Aug 31, 2008 at 8:16 pm
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During the current GWs first run for President, how often did he mention terrorism? Anyone? Did he say, "we need to be going after OBL and AQ!"? Again, R&V, Bert, look at what your party was talking about Pre-9/11 before you start assessing blame to folks. I'm sure you won't as you are constantly brainwashed by conservative radio and devoid of independent thought. I thought there was hope for Bert but, we will see. R&V are lost forever.
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:49 pm
On California power, California has 6 new power plants on-line. Now, consider this, 4 of them were being built UNDER Gray Davis and those stringent environmental rules. Also, your prove my point exactly, 38 is the potential not the actual. That was my point of mentioning the oil well leases.
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Regarding your comment about the Dems having control the last two years and not accomplishing anything. Should I blame the Republicans like R&V blame the Dems for republican failures during their 6 years of congressional and executive control?
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:36 pm
The cruise missiles in hit training camps in Afghanistan. Also, why are we focused on Iraq and not focused on getting OBL in Afghanistan? Is that the Dems fault also?
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:32 pm
No, I'm saying that if the Dems have control of Washington and fail to get anything done. I'LL HAVE THE COURAGE, BALLS, INTEGRITY AND LOVE OF COUNTRY, to stand up beside others like me and call them on it and NOT run around spewing out excuses like you guys, as I have done many a time on this blog. Now, can you say that? Can R&V say that? Did FDR provide Stalin weapons or cash or did they just work together on a common threat? Was Stalin and the Soviets considered evil at the time or are you thinking through hindsight glasses?
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Gregory If I lied in any of my comments show me where
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:24 pm
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Gregory Are you talking about FDR when he sided with Stalin and helped Stalin during WW2?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:24 pm
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Gregory. So what you are saying that if Obama wins in Nov and has a majority in both houses of congress that we will see great things being done and positive action on all our problems?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:22 pm
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Bert, stop thinking with your nutsack on the terrorism issue.... I can't think of looking weaker than actually siding with the Devil because you have a common enemy (i.e. Reagan and AQ/OBL in Afghanistan or Reagan and Hussein in Iraq/Iran). Now, that's weak! You're so weak, you compromise your own values and befriend dictators and terrorist to fight your enemies. Sounds weak to me!
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Gregory. In the last two years the dems have had control and they have done what?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:15 pm
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Gregory, The cruise missles in Afgan hit what? Andf the ones in Iraq were sent after SAM missle sites in the no fly zone
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:15 pm
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Gregory Yes you are argueing with a sixth grader as you are argueing with your self
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:14 pm
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Gregory. It is amazing is it not that after the recall of Gray Davis and the election of Arnold it did not take very long to get enough power to solve the crisis?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:13 pm
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I do recall several cruise missile attacks Bert. Also, Clinton left office in 2000. Before 9/11, what were republicans saying about terrorism? REMEMBER, BEFORE 9/11. Please, go research it and tell me. What were republicans wanting to do about terrorism. I think the same can be said for your party on the "my way or the highway" argument. You know that! Pull your head out.... Again, show some leadership, when you have control in Washington and compromise to get things done. The Repubs failed. Now, they show their true leadership skills, and try to place the blame on the Dems. It's so childish, it's almost hilarious if it were not so sad. Look at their arguments (Bert and R&V), problems during Dem control of government = ALL DEMS FAULT. Problems during Republican control of government = ALL DEMS FAULT. WoW! I'm arguing with sixth graders.
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Gregory Actually thinking about it both Carter and Clinton made us look weak.
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:11 pm
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Gregory. Oil leases being used? All rigs that I am aware of are woirking today with more being built. But would you rather drill in an areas where a well would produce 25 bbl/day or where a well would produce 100 bbl/day? Now I have worked foreign in many countries drilling wells. And most couuntries has a policy. And *sigh* away . When you discuss drilling around the world with me you better have your facts
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:10 pm
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Gregory, Reagan made a miustake when he did nothing about the bombing of the Marines in Lebonon. MISSPELLED? But you mentioned Carter. Carter made us look very weak when Iran took our embassy employees hostage and he did nothing but kill more americans in a failed rescue attempt
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:08 pm
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Bert,...../sigh... Ok, let me explain it for you. China and Ecuador is to show you what happens to the environment when there are no regulations to protect it. (whether it be the government in China or private industry in Ecuador, it really doens't matter.) With regards to California, 4 power plants being built vs. 38 PERMITS. Permits are a lot different than power plants. Compare them to say...oil and gas leases. Are all the leases being used?
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Gregory, 9/11? In 93 the WTC was bombed, In 95 the Kobar Towers were bombed. In 98 2 US embassies were bombed. In 2000 the Cole was bombed. What was done. A blind cleric and others were arrested and sent to prison. That took care of the criminal part of the 93 bombing.But nothing was done about the terrorist part of any of the bombings. We looked weak We invited 9/11. And it has been proven that the planning for 9/11 started in 95. As for comprimising. With the Dems it is my way or nothing and they do not comprimise. And it takes 60 votes in the senate to shut off debate and bring a bill to an up or down vote .
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:03 pm
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Since there was a "razor thin" majority by Republicans in the senate, why not show some leadership and work with the Dems to get things done for the country? So, your saying that Republicans lack the leadership skills to get things done in Washington even when they have control of the government, right? On drilling, where were republicans, at the time, on alternative energy, which was the Dems fight? Did Bush I do anything about terrorist when he was in office? I do recall Clinton launching a cruise missile attack against AQ in Afghanistan. A move that was roundly criticize by you and your party. Now, your saying, he didn't do enough. So, let's see: According to R&V, energy crisis is entirely the Dems fault and terrorism is entirely the Dems fault? Even though Jimmy Carter warned us about our dependance on oil back in the 70s after the first oil crisis and, even though, AQ was befriended by us under the Reagan administration and SH was empowered by us under the Reagan administration and, under Bush I, we did nothing regarding the hunt for OBL and AQ.
Gregory, Norman - Aug 31, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Gregory, I also worked in Ecuador, Now you campare China and Ecuador. To begin with there are no multinational companies working in China. So anything there is a result of the Gov not private industry. You cannot compare China with Ecuador. And the problem in Ecuador was far over blown. And it was not as I remember it Texaco and Chevron. I believe the problem in question was before Chevron bought Taxaco or merged as the case may be. And there is a large difference between 4 power plants and 38 power plants isn't there?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Aug 31, 2008 at 3:57 pm
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