Letters to the Editor: Thursday November 26, 2008

Published: November 26, 2008

Stop the shifting

Regarding "Lack of health coverage could hurt fans” (news story, Nov. 21): Bravo to state Insurance Commissioner Kim Holland! We shouldn’t be freeloading off our neighbors for health care and Holland deserves praise for saying so. If we could marry Holland’s idea with one put forward by state Rep. Doug Cox, to allow insurers to offer "mandate light” policies, we could move from near the bottom to the top in health insurance coverage. Insurance costs could drop dramatically if we had health insurance that didn’t include mandates or cross subsidies.

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If such coverage becomes available, we should take a very dim view of anyone pushing their costs onto those who do carry insurance or onto taxpayers.

Tom Daxon, Oklahoma City

Daxon is a consultant for the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs and authored a study of health care for that organization.

The wrong approach

Regarding "Uninsured won’t lose football tickets” (news story, Nov. 22): I notice state Insurance Commissioner Kim Holland’s ideas for penalizing the uninsured have, in retrospect, become "mostly in jest.” The threat of taking away season football tickets apparently forced the recant. The "jest” looks more like kidding on the square. However, the idea of denying the uninsured driver’s licenses, income tax personal exemptions and in-state tuition is elitist at best and denies reality. It could push wider insurance coverage further from reach.

Driver’s licenses are essential for work and for living, especially in rural areas. Would it help to force people into unemployment or into risking arrest for driving without insurance and without a valid license? Would making some people pay more taxes make health insurance more accessible? Would denying some a college education help anything?

As insurance commissioner, Holland should also know not everyone is eligible for group insurance. People who are sick or who are healthy but have risk factors can’t get private insurance, even if they can afford it. The state’s high-risk pool premiums are unaffordable for most people.

Football tickets are the least of it. This isn’t the way to address the health insurance problem.

Ann Marcy, Clinton

The real reason

Once again, Kathleen Parker (Opinion, Nov. 20) has missed the point. The presidential election didn’t go to the Democrats because the people eschewed traditional conservative/Christian beliefs but precisely because of them. Barack Obama ran on a platform of tax cuts for 95 percent of the population and change from the past eight years of out-of-control government spending, with the largest growth of government in decades. John Mc Cain ran as a government outsider and a consistent spoiler to the Republican Party’s basic ideals. Who was the conservative (at least in his campaign promises)?

The slight increase in voter turnout didn’t come from the conservatives, who either stayed home or voted for Obama. Our country remains center-right, built and based on Christian values. If the Republicans ever want to win again, we need to stop trying to be Democrats and get back to our Christian roots.

Richard Ammons, Oklahoma City

Out of touch

Kathleen Parker (Opinion, Nov. 20) attacked the clergy by saying the "gorilla in the pulpit” was, in part, cause for the failure of the Republican Party. She went on to imply that standing up for moral issues and putting God first isn’t a high priority, nor is it in the best interests of America. She also criticized Sarah Palin for her reliance on God in determining her future political plans. If all Americans would exercise Palin’s kind of faith, this would be a better country. Parker is out of touch with reality.

Burnis Campbell, Choctaw

Send a message

I’ve never been fired from a job but if I weren’t doing what I was supposed to be doing or if I were doing it poorly, I would have expected to get a warning; if I kept doing poorly, I would have expected to be fired. Nobody bails out an employee who gets fired! That employee finds his or her way into another job and works that much harder.

When car companies don’t do a good job, they get warnings in the form of quarterly financial statements showing losses. When sales or profits fall for whatever reason, dividends to shareholders are reduced and stock prices plummet. When a company puts thousands of jobs at stake and does a bad job, it gets rewarded. Why? Fire the management and replace them with better managers.

If the auto industry is bailed out, what’s next, the health care industry? Utilities? Let’s send a message to all industries. Tell your representatives in Congress not to raise taxes to bail out any industry, including the banking industry. It’s not too late to repeal and reverse a bailout bill that’s just plain wrong.

Marlina Robins, Oklahoma City

Take a pay cut

The auto industry is facing hard times. I once worked for a company that faced hard times. We employees voluntarily took a substantial pay cut and the company survived. Employees of the auto giants should take a pay cut, starting at the top. Thirty percent is not unreasonable. We will see how serious they are about saving their industry.

Ron Young, Moore


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Kevin, I had that same Blue non-coverage from the time I turned 60 until I was 65 and got letters from them each time I turned in a claim. My dad had sold health insurance for a few years and said if it wasn't licensed or out of New York, stay away from them because New York had the strictest laws which protected policy holders. Blue had a bunch of riders for pre-existing conditions but none for Type 2 diabetes. I spent over $7,000 out of my own and they paid nothing. In all the tests done, none of the Drs. gave me a yes or no as to my even having diabetes and now at 67 I still don't know. I would like to know, but I don't know of ant Dr. in Okla. that can identify it.
Floyd, Oklahoma City - Nov 27, 2008 at 11:12 am
I applied for private health insurance once, from a major provider, who will go unnamed, but has the word "Blue" in it's title. 35 years old, never been in the hospital, no illnesses nor history of such and taking no prescriptions.....REJECTED. Who do these companies insure anyway?
Kevin, Shawnee - Nov 27, 2008 at 9:21 am
Sallie, I found your post and my response in the Tuesday "Letters."
Floyd, Oklahoma City - Nov 26, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Sallie, I had a long post in response naming Quebec, and about a half dozen other places very intolerant on religion and had what I considered a good response to what we wrote. I wish I could remember what topic you wrote under.
Floyd, Oklahoma City - Nov 26, 2008 at 6:59 pm
May everyone have a Blessed Thanksgiving, regardless of your situation you are truly blessed. Recomended reading OG Mandino greatest Miracle. Christmas is approaching if you can please help the Red Andrews Christmas Dinner. New Toys,money,volunteer It;s a wonderful event and feeds thousands with toys to the Children anuually.
jeff, Harrah - Nov 26, 2008 at 2:16 pm
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Stephen, Maybe you should read Mathew 5 -11 something the left has done to republicans and palin and anyone speaking of Christianity.
jeff, Harrah - Nov 26, 2008 at 2:07 pm
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Floyd, Bert...I posted this on th 25's date by mistake. You might find this interesting. My apologies for the double post to all. ''America is at war with radical Islamists,'' Supreme Court Justice Scalia said in a recent dissent. In the United Nations (U.N.), the huge 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference is driving for passage of a so-called ''Defamation of Religions'' resolution ... with a probable General Assembly vote in early December! This ''Defamation of Religions'' resolution masquerades as a ''tolerance'' law - but in fact, it would target anyone who speaks negatively in any way about Islam! Sharing your faith would become an international crime, punishable by imprisonment or death. Both our European and American Government Affairs Legal Teams have met with ambassadors from a number of nations - explaining the awful truth about this resolution. Just yesterday, in a preliminary committee vote, we saw encouraging signs that we are persuading nations to either vote ''No'' or ''Abstain'' from voting on the resolution.
Sallie, Del City - Nov 26, 2008 at 10:38 am
Floyd, I know. Honestly, it's those sort of contradictions that interest me most in the bible. They underscore--for me, at least--the complexity of life, Jesus's message, and our own limitations as humans. Re that one particular passage, I've got two thoughts on it: (1) frankly, no matter what anyone's belief is in his divinity, Jesus was a hell of a better judge on that topic than we ever can be; and (2) we all get pissed off from time to time and let out with some righteous name-calling. Now, I don't want to start up a whole sideline debate over Jesus's divinity, but . . . we're all only human, after all; as the money changer story shows, he got good and ticked off from time to time, too. I guess I make my peace on this topic by trying to keep it within the lines of not getting too self-satisfied or gloating in making judgments or casting about slurs. Bottom line: It just ain't cool to be unnecessarily harsh to other folks. We pretty much all do it, from time to time, but it almost always is reason for feeling a little sheepish afterward. Cheers to you and your family, and a happy and restful Thanksgiving to you all.
Stephen, Ada - Nov 26, 2008 at 10:26 am
Stephen, That verse has always confused me. Christ Himself was continually calling people fools."Blind guides and fools."
Floyd, Oklahoma City - Nov 26, 2008 at 10:06 am
Hmm, Jeff, re your 7:02 a.m. post: I commend Matthew 5:22 to you.
Stephen, Ada - Nov 26, 2008 at 9:31 am
Palin's kind of faith? No, thank you.
Jamie, Lexington - Nov 26, 2008 at 9:08 am
Burnis, I agree. Stand up for your beliefs. I admire that and respect it. Anyone who criticizes you for that is a fool!!
jeff, Harrah - Nov 26, 2008 at 7:02 am
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Gm needs ch 11. They must reorganize and washington must stop the madness of bailout with threats of job loss. The same threats unions use do this or else. I'm ready for the or else GM. Clean it up and get back to business.
jeff, Harrah - Nov 26, 2008 at 7:00 am
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Hmm, the DO must be excited for Thanksgiving: It's not Thursday, yet.
Stephen, Ada - Nov 26, 2008 at 6:56 am