Loose cannon: Congressman crosses line with rhetoric

I don't think so Cletus, I think we just have that many idiots in Oklahoma.

Sometimes I wonder if the Donky Oklahoman's employees write in the comment sections just to stir up the masses. Maybe yes, maybe no.

Typical one sided Jokelahoma BS.

Isn't the Internet wonderful?

John, it was obvious what I was doing if YOU had any br**ns, but I won't accuse you of any such thing!

Kind of telling, I thought, that Billy, Mustang, apparently thinks "brains" is a dirty word, finding he can't type the word undisguised.

Oh, the outrage. Hypocrisy comes daily at the Daily Oklahoman.

c, I really don't get it and I must be crazy. If I didn't like Oklahoma for whatever reason, I would simply find a job elsewhere and move. I will never live in a state I don't care for. No job, or any amount of money could get me to move to California or New York!

stephen Somme dems do have b**s, what they are lacking is br**ns!

I don't think you have to be a liberal to cheer Grayson's telling it like it is about the Fed/banking/lobby revolving door. I'm a conservative and I agreed with his K Street remark. In fact, there's LOTS of K Street whores at the Fed. I'm sorry, but I just don't see that as an outrageous remark. He's absolutely right!

c, they may be liberals here but if you look at election results they are in a minority

Billy,

Does it amaze you that this many liberals live in OK? It amazes me. i say they're paid ACORN hacks. If you'll notice, there haven't been as many of them since ACORN's funding was cut.

it's about time a Dem had the b**s to do what Republican flamethrowers have been doing for years. Good on him for tossing a few back at the "loyal" opposition.

Rep. vs. Dem. fingerpointing at it's finest. Can we not agree that ALL POLITICIANS LIE? What side of the isle you adore should not play a role in it. Wait my guy lied less that your guy.....please!

John, the entire side of the Democrats in the house and senate had the same information Bush and Cheney did. Are you saying they, as well as Colin Powell, lied? Heck, even Clinton promoted our action in Iraq. If they would have stood up then, your concern would have some validity. As I see it, it was a brilliant move to force the UN to enforce their resolutions against Iraq and at the same time, put us right in the middle of the worlds trouble makers.

Btw, concerning the 72 "don't remembers".... do you remember where you ate lunch back on Mar. 23rd, 2002? I didn't think so. Oh yes, didn't Hillary Clinton forget who her secretary at the Rose Law Firm was during her deposition concerning fraud and extortion. :rolleyes:

c, Thanks and honestly that instance of truthtelling had escaped me. I will no longer say Obama always lies.

John Then since You say his lies are not big enough they do not count?

John, how about the fact he said it is imperative that we win in Afghanistan and now because of political pressure caves. I can accept the fact that he is a liar, but lying about Afghanistan really is going to get some of America's finest recklessly killed and that is unacceptable. He needs to quit LYING and make up his mind about Afghanistan. Gitmo,health care,Iran, N. Korea, are all things we can allow the president to lie or waffle about, but Afghanistan needs a decision from a LEADER, which we cannot produce at this time!

Obama lies? What? He's doing exactly what I expected him to do. He said he was going to fundamentally transform America. I believed him. Of course, there were those little white lies about his pastor, and bill ayers, and no new taxes, and the stimulus preventing unemployment from reaching 8% and of course the # of jobs created by the stimulus, and illegal aliens not being eligible for health care, and not wanting to run a car company then firing the CEO, (fingers are getting tired), and that you could keep your health insurance under the public option, the # of uninsured multiplied by 25 or more, ACORN (pick a lie). I'm starting to agree with Billy, it's more challenging to find an instance of telling the truth. Billy, I found one, is that pretty much it? Wait, he did say that he was a proponent for a single payer system. That's not a lie. single payer is government controlled insurance for all you liberal democrats out there.

Guys, before you snigger yourself into a stupor over your "lies," I'm not impressed. I'll grant you I am disappointed in areas where Obama's campaign promises are not being met by his performance in office. There's a lot he's not doing I want him to do. I will give you credit for this once actually being specific and providing some data. Some of what you characterize as lies doesn't really count, though, and certainly nothing you characterize as Obama lies comes anywhere close to the previous administration, which, just for starters, lied us into an unnecessary war (leading to deaths of many thousands of our service members and basically bankrupting us) and then, when members of the administration placed Cheney in the middle of treasonous felonies, he appeared (demanding not be placed under oath) and didn't remember 72 times. THOSE are some lies. Come up with anything close to that from Obama, and I'll say you've got something.

All politicans lie? C'mon get real. THEY ALL LIE. Let me repeat THEY ALL LIE. That is what republicans and democrats do to get in. What does it take to get them out? I vote for prison sentences to any governmental representative accepting compensation from any lobbyist.

Brock, Obama has diplayed nothing to me, "becoming of a president.

Silas, more people consider themselves CONSERVATIVE than any other ideological group and that group is growing on a national treand. The Republican party is suffering because of instead of staying firm with things like strong national security, lower taxes and fiscal restraint, they try to pander to the liberal mindset, always bending instead of staying conservative. It's a crazy deal why they do this because 40% of Americans are conservative, 35% are the wishy washy can't make up their mind moderates, and only 21% are liberal. Even though scattered throughout the Democrat and Republican party, I'd say that puts Oklahoma and the Daily Oklahoman right in the middle of the majority and not worthy of your baseless insults.

Floyd, Billy and Bert, here's another Obama lie where he got caught denying a legit news agency from reporting the news. He denied blocking Fox News from being part of the group to interview his radical pay czar, Ken Feinberg. It was later proven where Obama was trying to squelch free speech. Not very becoming of a president of the US, is it?

Billy, To start with Obama can simply prove he was born in Hawaii.Not some SNOPES.com or Factcheck that shows a late date printout that any of computer geeks and many of the rest of you could do on your own.
Not having any thing or anybody to show me how to use a computer I feel great just being able to have figured out what little I know about them. I'm thinking about getting a new one with Windows 7.

Floyd, we haven't even scratched the surface. Maybe our challenge to John should be produce some evidence where Obama has told the truth. Now that would present a challenge!

Billy and BERT, are you 2 laughing along with me that we came up with 9 lies one after the other?

All I see is dark days ahead. 300 million people are in the USA, and we are going to let 500 in Washington control every aspect of their daily lives. Sounds like we have become slaves of our own government. So, how's that hope and change working out for you?

Let's see, specific for Ronnie, Health care wouldn't include paying for abortions, Obama would bring change and reach across the isle,health care would exclude end of life counseling,Afghanistan would have to be won,health care package would not increase debt,and I could go on forever, but it would be an effort in futility, because Obama koolaid drinkers actually will think he has been good for America!

Ron, Yesterday's Oklahoman said Oct. 2009's death count was the highest per month since we invaded Iraq. When will Obama make good on his promise to bring our troops home and not in body bags?
Millions of new jobs? Only 25,000 so far. Figure that many per year for 8 years and it is only 200,000. Hardly millions.
Tax cuts for low and middle class. Well my wife smokes and she is paying a bunch more on tobacco tax and our combined income is less that $250,000.
There are 3 lies to begin with. He's once, twice, three times a liar.(to take liberty with the words of a song. He's a real song and dance man and should go to his game of basketball and Palin should become a regular on Sat. Night Live. Neither should try to govern.

Ron and John . Okay you will noot like this but it shows that obamas is a liar. 2 examples. One...... Rev Wright comes on TV with a rant against the USA where he said god damn the USA. Now Obama after going to his church for 20 years and by Obama;'s own words said that Wright was his mentor and led him to Christ, married him andtized his daughters stated he was not aware that Wright felt that way. During his sernmon by looking at the congregation you knew he did not catch them by surprise as they were clapping and urging him on you can think the only way that Obama did noy know was by sleepoing thru his sermons, which would have been impossable or that Obama is very stupid. The third way is that Obama was lying. And during a question /answer period at Saddleback mountain he was asked when life began. He said that was beyoing his paygrade. But shortly agter being elected he took off things against abortion.

Great. Ron asks "be specific," leading to Billy's "numerous items." Hardly fitting the description of the word specific.

Ron seriously, what has B Husseign not lied about? Americans are starting to wake up to the fact, that the Hope and Change as presented by Barack, is not what we want. Many of us still do not want to be spoon fed by our government. He's "transparency" is perhaps his biggest lie, but he has lied about numerous items.

Hmmm, what did "Barack Hussein Obama" lie about? Be specific, I'd like to see this. I bet its just copy and paste Fox news driblets or Limbaugh limericks but hey, I'll withhold judgement until I see what ya got to offer. Knock yourself out.

Joe Wilson was wrong to interrupt the president's speech but he was correct.Barack Hussein Obama is a LIAR!
Grayson is an insane democrook,just listen to him,he sounds like Michael.

Something pertinent The Ok chose to ignore: Rep. Grayson issued the following apology, regarding the K street lobbyist: “I offer my sincere apology to Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke. I did not intend to use a term that is often, and correctly, seen as disrespectful of women,” Grayson said in a statement. “This characterization of Ms. Robertson, made during a radio interview last month in the context of the debate over whether the Federal Reserve should be independently audited, was inappropriate, and I apologize.”

........ which actually strikes me as a sincere apology, something I don't recall ever seeing come from a Republican.

The Oklahoman and their right wing editorial board are still supporting numb nuts Inhofe and the Oklahoma Third Reich. As along as they publish this paper, my birdcage will put it to its true use. Fox News in print is justified, and we all know how "Fix" News makes up the news they want to report on. The Oklahoman tells us the news they want us to know, not what is really happening in the US. i BET THEW EDITORS AT THE oKLAHOMAN ORDER A BUCKET OF RIGHT WINGS WHEN THEY EAT CHICKEN. i wonder if they love to eat crow?

Thank you, Silas! This newspaper has kept Oklahomans in the dark for too long and needs to stop. It is Fox News in print and the entire Gaylord Klan (sic) would do the state and its people a favor by shutting down the DOK. It is too early to start a rant but they have brainwashed Oklahomans and it shows…

So is K Street (the Washington lobbyist district) now a sacred cow for the Oklahoman and Republicans? I'd love to run against that.

So shouting liar at the President of the United States of America during a joint session of Congress, broadcast live on TV on numerous networks and cable channels when the largest TV audience of the year is watching is now equal to this guy saying the Republican plan for health care is: (1) don't get sick, and (2) if you get sick die quickly; during a debate in the House when only shutins who watch C-Span saw it? What a crock! You freekin' people have absolutely no credibility whatsoever. Forget that Grayson is right on the facts and that Joe Wilson was wrong. The situations are nowhere near comparable regardless of what was said. If you want to really be outraged at bad behavior and foul language in the Congress then explain for us how outraged you were when that lying scumbag Dick Cheney said "FUC& YOU" to Senator Leahy in the well of the Senate a couple years ago!!! How about when your boy W was overheard during a campaign stop in 2004 while referring to a particular person in attendance that his person was a "Huge As$ hole". You people are presiding over the decline of a State riven with ignorance, poverty and hatred/bigotry which sets us up for the perfect storm due to the rapidly changing demographics which show, despite what the white trash flatland hillbillies here want, that the percentage of eligible voters in the US who identify as Republican is at about 19% and the majority of people in the US are black, brown, yellow, red, etc. White right wing bigots are relics of an earlier time when all you had to do to have a good job and get ahead was be born white in the south or southwest. If we don't get smart real quick and become more tolerant and educate ourselves we will become a third world island in the middle of the country. Its already underway. Your constant Obama bashing is already old. Your pride in the fact that Oklahoma voted in a higher percentage for Palin than any other State and that she and McCain carried all 77 counties is just a sad admission that the entire State is still living in he mid-20th century. The country has moved on from racism, bigotry and intolerance. You (DOk) can lead the awakening or fade away.

Uh, the guy Grayson called "... a "K Street whore”; well, he IS.

Stinker . All newspapers are doing worse every year. The D.O. for its size is doing better than the liberal papers such as the New York Times

No wish, Stink. Liberal rag newspapers are suffering greatly. Advertising is down, subscriptions are down, online viewers and readers are down and the downward trend shows nothing of stopping. NYT's just announced another layoff and will likely be one of many that ask for a bailout with the ever present "government control" as their master.

Time Inc., the publisher of magazines like Time, Fortune, and People, has already cut costs drastically: a year ago, it announced it was dismissing 6 percent of its work force, or about 600 people. Now, they're announcing a $100 million in costs cuts and is expected to come largely from layoffs too. The timing is coordinated with the continued theme of bad quarterly earnings announcement from its parent company, Time Warner.

Just some of the many biased liberal mantra that no longer sells, stink. This doesn't even touch the fact that CNN has been relegated to last place in the catagory of cable news networks. Quite telling considering they invented cable news just a few short years back. They can't even say they match the woeful MSNBC that also has a dismal amount of viewers.

You wish, Brock. But hey, maybe you're wrong. Maybe the Oklahoman laid off 150 people last Dec. because they were doing well. Maybe so.

I hope democraps elevate this ilk straight to the top of the party. He is well spoken and a very refined for a democrap. I hope the "normal" media keeps promoting this new leader of the democrap party!

Love it. Grayson speaking simple brutal truth, and the party of rovian sleeze gets it's little feelings hurt.

Insurance companies tell [eople todie all the time.Mr Grayson did the right thing in saying the truth..

Even though I'm sure you're impressed with your "zinger" Stink, it's lacking in content. Calling the Democrats on their shortcomings and ill planned reform is newsworthy. Considering this paper is in the middle of conservative America, I'd imagine the DO is far from going out of business like the liberal newspapers all around the country that are falling on a daily basis.

Conservatism is rising and the RINO's are going to fall with the blue dog Democrats. Don't kid yourself, we are causing the "change". The Republican party is going to change along with the Democrats being shoved out the door. America doesn't want their liberty killing government control.

This paper is just toting the party line. The Republican Party line. Thus, anything they say will support their party and bash Democrats. Enjoy it, boys, as you go out of business.

Holy crap! People resort to strong language to reinforce their opinions? When did this start?!

It is amazing how fast the liberals circle the wagons around one of their own. Of course they are hypocrites. It was done for the likes of Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton among others.

Like his constituents, some of us in Oklahoma find Congressman Gray refreshing. Too bad the Republicans, & DOK editors, can't take a dose of their own medicine! Wah wah wah.

By the way, Rep. Wilson was chided for the way he chose to express his opinion. Rep. Grayson hasn't broken parlimentary protocol while voicing his opinion. That's why the normal media has left him alone. The abnormal media is still trying to make it an issue.

If I recall correctly, Wilson was smacked down for having interrupted the person speaking, not for what he actually said. At least that was the formal complaint last time I checked.

So the comparison is not very accurate.

Democrats don't know how to travel down a two way street. Different standards for those that have the lower value of a moral code of dignity.

This paper is just toting the party line. The Republican Party line. Thus, anything they say will support their party and bash Democrats. Enjoy it, boys, as you go out of business.

Rep Grayson is part of the new Democrats who say we can be rude just like the Limbeck party can. It is so funny. Die quickly, I love that one. The Limbeck party has no direction, no ideas and leaders like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck who are taking them down the road to destruction.
It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.
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Grayson Poll
by: Florida Politics
Thu Oct 01, 2009 at 08:51:37 AM EDT

The Orlando Sentinel offered a poll today that shows that the editors are grossly out of touch with their online readers.

The question - "Does Orlando Congressman Alan Grayson owe the U.S. House an apology for saying that Republicans want sick Americans to die quickly?"

Yes. His comments were outrageous and over the top. (1548 responses) 17.57%

No. He deserves credit for having the courage to tell the truth. (6357 responses) 71.9%

Yes. If Grayson really wants health-care reform, this isn't the way to get it. (274 responses) 3.1%

No. Republicans have already shown they aren't interested in doing anything but blocking health care reform. (665 responses) 7.5%
Vote here.

As is plain, and unlike the Sentinel editors, who predictably (they live in Sam Zell's world, after all) called Grayson's remarks "hyperbolic, hyperpartisan" and "outrageous", and demanded" that Grayson issue "a sincere apology", the vast majority of the Sentinel's online readers - the folks who the Sentinel sees as their salvation as print media shifts to the online market - strongly disagree.

Note: Expect these poll numbers to shift over the course of the late morning as the Republicans with health care (in many cases gubment health care) wake up (or return from an early round of golf), go online to check out the status of their unearned income, and then make their way to the always comforting Sentinel editorial pages.

Nobody takes congressman Shrek serious!