And when I met David, all of that pressure was off. It was really just about, how do David and I work together? As a bonus, I got to see how he was as a father as he developed a relationship with Claudia.
What led you to acting?
I knew I wanted a career. I’m a worker. I loved it from the moment I entered the workforce, when I was 14. My mother really harped on me, “You have to have a career.” She never worked [outside the home], and it was important to her that we had careers. I was working at Vons supermarket as a checker. It’s a good job, but I was having a particularly bad day. Some man was complaining about the price of his cantaloupes, and that was my breaking point. I looked up to the heavens and asked myself, “If you could be doing anything in the world, what would it be?” And it was acting. It kind of surprised me.
You’ve said that parenting is much harder than acting; do you still feel that way?
Being a parent is the hardest thing in the world. Sometimes I feel like I have to go back to work to get some rest, and we work a minimum 12-hour day making a movie! None of that is nearly as exhausting as parenthood—the psychological toll it takes on you because these lives are in your hands. I take it very seriously. Just when you think you’ve got your kids figured out, they change on you. For somebody who’s controlling, you can’t control it. Of course, I don’t think I’m controlling, but that’s what I’ve been told! [laughs]
Your kids are now nearly grown.
People make a lot of jokes about the empty nest. Let me tell you, it is no laughing matter. It is really hard. Claudia’s in her first year of college. She’s doing great. My son is applying to colleges now. I remember reading an interview with Dustin Hoffman; his first child had just gone off to college, and he said, “Nobody talks about their [empty] room.” I feel like I’m going to cry just thinking about it. [pause] Are you hot? I am. Or am I having a big hot flash? Did I really just say that? That will be a headline; I can see it. [laughs and opens the window wider]
Let’s talk about Dark Shadows. What did you like about this project?
I had this memory of loving the TV show; I’d sprint home from school so I didn’t miss one second of it. I just wanted to be in the movie, work with Tim Burton again, and work with Johnny Depp. One day I called Tim and said, “Look, I don’t know if there’s anything for me, but I’d love to do it.” A year went by, maybe more, and I thought, “It’s never going to happen.” But it did. I had so much fun making it! [Pfeiffer plays the matriarch of the Collins family, and Depp the ancestral vampire, Barnabas.]
In films like Personal Effects with Ashton Kutcher and Cheri with Rupert Friend, you play opposite leading men younger than you. …
Maybe a tad. [laughs] They get younger and younger. I went from Ashton to Rupert to Zac Efron in New Year’s Eve. If I keep on like this, I’m going to get into X-rated material! Well, that’s what happens with men and their leading ladies, right? I was acting in The Russia House opposite Sean Connery when he was turning 60. [Pfeiffer was 32.]
Are there more roles now for experienced actresses?
There are fewer movies being made, so there are fewer movie roles overall. There aren’t really enough to go around—there just aren’t. But TV has opened up a lot of parts for women. Some of the best work, in fact, is on cable.
Have you ever thought of doing a TV series?
I might. When I started out there were “TV actors” and “movie actors,” and they didn’t let you cross over. Big movie stars weren’t going to get on a television series. I’ve never understood that. Now actors are crossing over all the time, which is really exciting.
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Would you do a series with your husband?
I’d worry about coming home and complaining to him about the people I work with. I wouldn’t want to bring my work home with me like that. But it doesn’t mean we won’t do something together one day. I couldn’t ask for anyone better. David’s the best in terms of developing things for women. I watch [his shows] and I turn to him and say, “I hope these actors realize how lucky they are.”
Your dad passed away a while back. How has that affected you?
My father was a force to be reckoned with. And we battled because I’m also incredibly strong-willed. The apple didn’t fall too far from the tree, and so we went around and around; but as cantankerous as it was, I think that’s how deep the love and the bond were between us. He was strong farm stock. I really thought he’d outlive us all, but I lost him about 12 years ago. One of my biggest regrets is that I didn’t get his life story before he died. I didn’t dig it out of him. He was really private.
And your mother?
We all share the care of her. She lives in Orange County, where I grew up.
Does it make you think in terms of your own mortality? Is that frightening?
It’s scary, yes. It really hits you that you are now definitely in the second half of life. I feel that way with each friend or family member who gets ill or passes away. It can be very lonely. I’m lucky that I have family and friends, a great support system.
What drives you to succeed?
I don’t know if it’s naïveté or just narcissism, but I start out with this notion that I can do anything. It’s not until I get into it that I realize what I’ve thrown myself into, and then I will do anything not to humiliate myself. And that, I think, is the secret to my success.