New Jersey, Virginia results send a message
OUR VIEWS: Administration should take heed

What a stupid paper. The compare numbers for Obama and try to relate them to another candidates vote count. I guess if Jack the ripper had lost by 25 percentage points they would say that it was because of Obamas unpopularity. That's the DOK way. Just vote for party not for the person. That's where this country is now.

And what about the New York result. Is that not siginficant? hmmm? oh wait.. that doesn't fit the DOK rag.

Bert, If you want some crediblity on here, which you have none, is to show the original count of the election and then the results of the recount with the changes from the original shown. Now go fetch.

John You asked for proof of my post. You got it. You don't like it because it did not suit your purpose or ideals. Ideals? My bad. I do not see you having any of those.

Facts I like a lot. A mind-numbing list of Hardee, Hendry, Hernando, etc., followed by incomprehensible strings of 8-year-old numbers? Not so much.

John cannot stand facts??????

It's 2009.

The 2000 Tennessee vote means what? (Not to mention, if I may ask a favor, Milk, please don't goad Bert into posting garbage like the Florida votes again.)

2000 vote total in 2000 election in Gore's home state of Tennessee


Presidential
Candidate Vice Presidential
Candidate Political
Party Popular Vote Electoral Vote
George W. Bush Richard Cheney Republican 1,061,949 51.15% 11
Albert Gore Jr. Joseph Lieberman Democratic 981,720 47.28% 0
Ralph Nader Winona LaDuke Independent 19,781 0.95% 0
Other (+) - - 12,731 0.61% 0

Milk that was the final count Certified

Bert, that's the official count for Florida, not recount. you said the whole state of Florida was recounted in 2000, it wasn't. That's why you can't fine it Bert.
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Milk I figured you were not smart enough to find it so here it is
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Final certified results
Federal official vote for the state of Florida (25 electoral votes) Presidential candidate Vote total % Party
George W. Bush (W) 2,912,790 48.847 Republican
Al Gore 2,912,253 48.838 Democratic
Ralph Nader 97,421 1.634 Green
Patrick J. Buchanan 17,484 0.293 Reform
Harry Browne 16,415 0.275 Libertarian
John Hagelin 2,281 0.038 Natural Law/Reform
Howard Phillips 1,378 0.023 Constitution
Other 3,028 0.051 —
Total 5,963,110
Source: 2000 official presidential general election results

[edit] Results breakdown
[edit] By county
County Bush Votes Gore Votes Nader Votes Buchanan Votes
Alachua 40.28% 34,135 55.91% 47,380 3.81% 3,226 0% 0
Baker 69.65% 5,611 29.69% 2,392 0.66% 53 0% 0
Bay 66.26% 38,682 32.33% 18,873 1.42% 828 0% 0
Bradford 63.16% 5,416 35.86% 3,075 0.98% 84 0% 0
Brevard 53.1% 115,253 44.84% 97,341 2.06% 4,470 0% 0
Broward 31.06% 177,939 67.7% 387,760 1.24% 7,101 0% 0
Calhoun 56.69% 2,873 42.54% 2,156 0.77% 39 0% 0
Charlotte 53.26% 35,428 44.55% 29,636 2.2% 1,461 0% 0
Citrus 52.55% 29,801 45.02% 25,531 2.43% 1,379 0% 0
Clay 73.34% 41,903 25.67% 14,668 0.98% 562 0% 0
Collier 65.86% 60,467 32.61% 29,939 1.52% 1,399 0% 0
Columbia 60.02% 10,968 38.57% 7,049 1.41% 258 0% 0
De Soto 55.03% 4,256 42.94% 3,321 2.03% 157 0% 0
Dixie 58.64% 2,697 39.73% 1,827 1.63% 75 0% 0
Duval 57.91% 152,460 41.04% 108,039 1.05% 2,757 0% 0
Escambia 63.14% 73,171 35.37% 40,990 1.49% 1,727 0% 0
Flagler 46.82% 12,618 51.57% 13,897 1.61% 435 0% 0
Franklin 53.51% 2,454 44.64% 2,047 1.85% 85 0% 0
Gadsden 32.57% 4,770 66.48% 9,736 0.95% 139 0% 0
Gilchrist 62.18% 3,300 35.99% 1,910 1.83% 97 0% 0
Glades 55.14% 1,841 43.19% 1,442 1.68% 56 0% 0
Gulf 58.85% 3,553 39.72% 2,398 1.42% 86 0% 0
Hamilton 54.95% 2,147 44.1% 1,723 0.95% 37 0% 0
Hardee 60.9% 3,765 37.88% 2,342 1.21% 75 0% 0
Hendry 58.67% 4,747 40.04% 3,240 1.29% 104 0% 0
Hernando 47.31% 30,658 50.38% 32,648 2.32% 1,501 0% 0
Highlands 57.86% 20,207 40.57% 14,169 1.56% 545 0% 0
Hillsborough 50.52% 180,794 47.39% 169,576 2.09% 7,496 0% 0
Holmes 68.82% 5,012 29.89% 2,177 1.29% 94 0% 0
Indian River 58.02% 28,639 40.05% 19,769 1.92% 950 0% 0
Jackson 56.6% 9,139 42.55% 6,870 0.85% 138 0% 0
Jefferson 44.29% 2,478 54.35% 3,041 1.36% 76 0% 0
Lafayette 67.2% 1,670 31.75% 789 1.05% 26 0% 0
Lake 56.8% 50,010 41.54% 36,571 1.66% 1,460 0% 0
Lee 57.91% 106,151 40.13% 73,571 1.96% 3,588 0% 0
Leon 38.14% 39,073 59.97% 61,444 1.89% 1,934 0% 0
Levy 54.71% 6,863 43.03% 5,398 2.26% 284 0% 0
Liberty 55.5% 1,317 42.86% 1,017 0% 0 1.64% 39
Madison 49.75% 3,038 49.37% 3,015 0.88% 54 0% 0
Manatee 52.87% 58,023 44.86% 49,226 2.27% 2,491 0% 0
Marion 54.26% 55,146 43.96% 44,674 1.78% 1,809 0% 0
Martin 55.05% 33,972 43.14% 26,621 1.81% 1,118 0% 0
Miami-Dade 46.42% 289,574 52.72% 328,867 0.86% 5,352 0% 0
Monroe 47.75% 16,063 49.01% 16,487 3.24% 1,090 0% 0
Nassau 69.47% 16,408 29.45% 6,955 1.08% 255 0% 0
Okaloosa 74.38% 52,186 24.21% 16,989 1.4% 985 0% 0
Okeechobee 51.72% 5,057 46.94% 4,589 1.34% 131 0% 0
Orange 48.28% 134,531 50.33% 140,236 1.39% 3,879 0% 0
Osceola 47.57% 26,237 51.1% 28,187 1.33% 732 0% 0
Palm Beach 35.72% 152,964 62.99% 269,754 1.3% 5,564 0% 0
Pasco 48.46% 68,607 49.14% 69,576 2.4% 3,393 0% 0
Pinellas 46.73% 184,849 50.73% 200,657 2.53% 10,022 0% 0
Polk 53.89% 90,310 44.88% 75,207 1.23% 2,060 0% 0
Putnam 51.88% 13,457 46.67% 12,107 1.45% 377 0% 0
Santa Rosa 72.85% 36,339 25.7% 12,818 1.45% 724 0% 0
Sarasota 51.93% 83,117 45.53% 72,869 2.54% 4,069 0% 0
Seminole 55.34% 75,790 43.24% 59,227 1.42% 1,940 0% 0
St. Johns 65.62% 39,564 32.36% 19,509 2.02% 1,217 0% 0
St. Lucie 44.7% 34,705 53.53% 41,560 1.76% 1,368 0% 0
Sumter 54.95% 12,127 43.67% 9,637 1.39% 306 0% 0
Suwannee 65.3% 8,009 33.23% 4,075 1.47% 180 0% 0
Taylor 59.98% 4,058 39.15% 2,649 0.87% 59 0% 0
Union 61.76% 2,332 37.26% 1,407 0% 0 0.98% 37
Volusia 45.11% 82,368 53.3% 97,313 1.59% 2,903 0% 0
Wakulla 53.09% 4,512 45.16% 3,838 1.75% 149 0% 0
Walton 67.35% 12,186 31.19% 5,643 1.46% 265 0% 0
Washington 63.34% 4,995 35.48% 2,798 1.18% 93 0

Bert, come on, it's just a discussion. YOu don't have to take it so personal. You look it up.
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Milk You go find it. I am tired of dealing with you idiots on this

Bert, did you ever find that recount informaton on Florida in 2000 where they recounted the whole state? I was waiting for your answer? Did you already post it?
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Bert's got his dander up. Must be that new terbakky.

Excitable boy there.

John I actually did give you a link. The Sun Sentinal in Fort Lauderdale . I suppose they were also not telling the truth

John You remind me of Marilyn seminole She called me a liar and when I posted news reports that backed up my words then she not only called me a liar but the news reporter and the news paper from Muscogee liars also.

John are you afraid to check out the facts? They are there. Now you do not believe me or the comments I posted from other sourses. Then go to the internet and find some differing facts and show me as I showed you. I backed up my words. Now you need to do the same. How can you know I cannot be bothered when you have not shown me anything? Show me some of the factual data and I may have to change my views. What a dork

Thanks for the laugh, Bert. I like to think of myself as an exceptional liberal, but if you want to say normal, well OK. And you show you're a normal conservative, who doesn't want to be bothered with documentation or factual data that could possibly contradict what the media spoonfeed you.

Jumbo It was not only the wins but the margin of victory.

This should not be surprising news to anyone. Republicans traditionally show out in larger numbers on midterm elections. When the next presidential election comes around, you'll see the same results as last year because the droves of old white people who love the republicans will be cancelled out by the young, the underrepresented and the poor.

John Just type in ballot desinger for the 2000 election in Florida. That way you can see it all first hand. And as I said before as for something being a moot point If Gore had won his home state the election results in Florida would have been a moot point. Actually I was in Argentina on election day so what info I recrieced before I arrived back in the states a few day later came from the innternet. After I arrived home I followed what was happening mostly by TV programs.

Also Bert, a request for "documentation" to me means links. I don't actually believe you just made up and typed the references you cite, but it's possible. BUT IT IS POSDSIBLE ? YOU ARE A NORMAL LIBERAL

Also Bert, a request for "documentation" to me means links. I don't actually believe you just made up and typed the references you cite, but it's possible. Also, with links I can judge the trustworthiness of the source as well as read the details for myself. Having said all that, it's all rather a moot point now that Bush is comfortably in Dallas and the country limps along trying to recover from the numerous debacles left in his wake. None of which is germane to the editorial above.

You guys are Bush bashing what about the Kennedy's and all their connections from Joe Kennedy.

Bert, where did you get that information? The whole state of Florida was recounted several times? Come on Bert. The whole state was never recounted once.
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Milk It was recounted several times

Bert, The Florida vote in 2000 should have been recounted. That's what the Supreme Court should have ordered. That would have settled the issue fair. The whole state recounted.
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John Here is another

Congressional leaders, Democratic officials and Gore aides blamed the Palm Beach County election supervisor, Theresa LePore. Ms. LePore, who redesigned the county's ballot this year, said she had hoped to make it easier to read for the county's many elderly voters. Ms. LePore is a Democrat.

In an interview on Tuesday with the Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale, Ms. LePore said she did not think the ballot was confusing. ''I was trying to make the print bigger so elderly people in Palm Beach County can read it,'' she said. ''If I'd made it small, they would've said we made the print too small.''

The Palm Beach design was not used in any other Florida county

So it seems the registered voters had sample ballots to practice with before going to the voting booth

John Some of the info is old and now hard to find, I was depending on my memory but you wanted more and that is fair, Here is what I have found so far

Salon.com
Some Florida Ballots Illegal, Dems Say
(The ballot designer, a Democrat, wonders why nobody told her about the problems in advance -- the answer is that she simply showed a sample to voters, she did not ask them to use the samples.)

[Palm Beach County] Supervisor of Elections Theresa LePore, a Democrat, insisted any confusion was unintentional and defended the layout of the cluttered ballots as necessary to get all the presidential candidates on facing pages while making the type large enough for [elderly] voters to read.

She also said that if it was so confusing, someone should have pointed it out to her earlier. "We sent out sample ballots to all registered voters, and no one said a word," she said.

Milkman as I have said before . I can read the foiorst sentence or two of your posts on the main opinion page.

John It was in the news during the chad counting.

Bert, your whole stream of consciousness sounds like talk radio drivel. Documentation, please? Now, I've had family members work on election boards, and the notion "It was the DEMOCRATS that ran the voting in those 2 counties," is dubious. In my experience, neither D's nor R's run voting. I'm not entirely naive on that and realize not everyone may have the ethics my family member had. I'm willing to take a look if you post proof of anything you say.

Thank you.
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Milkman You can spin with the best of the spinners

Bert, the Democrats also had a problem with Jeb Bush removing 16,000 so called felons from the voter roles who were not felons. He knew they would vote mostly Democratic because they were poor. That's why he removed their names and lied about it. Another Bush criminal activity gone unpunished.
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John I understood what you wrote. however you are very mistaken. It appears you could not understand what I wrote. It was the DEMOCRATS that ran the voting in those 2 counties that designed and apoproved the ballots. Again only the Democrats had problems with the democratic approved ballots. The Republicans and young kids had no problems with using the Democrat designed and approved ballot. And again of course had Gore been able to carry his home state the Florida vote would not have mattered.. Of course it was if you remember it was the Democrats that tried to stop the counting of absetee ballot from our armed forces overseas

Bert the fairy tale thing sounds like what happened in 2008. Pick the guy that SOUNDS like he knows what he is doing! If first graders ever get to vote, look out GOP!

And in Bertworld, where Republicans have no problems with ballots and only Democrats have problems, that's purely unintentional. Can't blame the corporate interests who set up the technology if their favored candidates could clearly and simply be voted for, while candidates they opposed were nearly impossible to vote for. Now, we all await Bert's pronouncement that he can't understand a word I write.

Milkman The Supreme Court may have made the final decision in 2000. But why was it needed? There were about 2 counties in Florida in question. Boith of these counties had election boards run by Democrats. They decided on the type of ballot to be used. And Republicans had no problems with the ballot. Only democrats it seemed were not smart enough to punch a hole in the correct place.Actually a school teacher made up the same ballot to vote for fairy tale characters and had young kids vote for the one they liked best. And the kids had no problems. only the democrats has problems. And also had Gore been able TO CARRY HIS HOME STATE the Florida vote would not have mattered.

Billy, why not. Bush was chosen by the deceased on the Supreme Court. Remember, when they said Bush is ahead so stop counting votes right now.
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ACORN might be legitimate, but we don't want the next president to be chosen by the deceased!

Bert, not one of the illegal names Acorn volunteers brought in has been registered to vote or voted. You know that Bert, quit pretending.
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Hmm, so much lunacy, so little time. The Ok is clearly spinning here. NY-23, unlike NJ and VA, which have only local implications, sends a message too. Milkman is not the only one who'll stick up for ACORN. william, pampa, at 2:08 pm, seems to have found the U.S. Constitution to be a document regarding commerce.

Milkman Very true. And Acorn registers these same poor people many times

Billy Are these the same ones that are black and are screaming racial discrimination because they are being looked into by the ethics board?

Acorn delivers a lot of voters for the Democrats because they register poor people. We're not like Republicans, we don't get to have a President selected by the Supreme Court.
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The corrution seems to be in your party Ace! What did I see on Fox news lasts night. They are investigating 5 of your democratic friends for serious ethics violations. I personally think that is a joke, because I thought ethics and democrats would be an oxymoron!Milkmouth, only you would stick up for ACORN! Did you EVER like this country?

Billy, there's less corruption in Acorn than there is in the Republican party. I know fatboy and vaporub like to crawl on Acorn, but Acorn has been around for 40 years and done a lot of service for a lot of people. A few bad apples doesn't ruin the whole group, but keep mouthing off Billy. That's the real Christian in you.
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lannie, then why is your messiah still over there. Is he gathering up more money for health care and ACORN!

Jeff, still trying to retread those Limbeck party tires? It's not working, is it? Michael Bloomberg, a Republican, spent 90 million of his own money to win mayor of New York City. So what? Who cares? YOu have no thoughts of your own. Just fatboy and Glenn vaporub.
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War for profit, that's the Chicken Hawk, Right-Wing motto.Ther's no money in peace, we couldn't sell all those WMD's to other countries like we are doing right now.

Something else all should ponder. What does it say about a man who spends 30 million of his own money to hold a job that only pays 200,000. or so. It says to me regardless of affiliation that our leaders are so addicted to power and recipients of special interest that they would spend 100 times of what they would make. It shows me that these people are more concerned with the special interest and could care less about the people. NJ was one of corruption and high unemployemnt all under Corzines watch and yet he would spend millions to keep the status quo believing the people were too stupid to know different. Did he really think attacking a mans weight would win him the job. What does that say about society today that regardless of whats said as long as its our man saying it its ok.

Isn't it funny how democrats act as if the 2 governor races didn't mean a thing. I wonder why Obama went to NJ 5 times. The 23rd district in NY sends a clear message to democrats, a little unknown accountant that came to the race late nearly won it. Had he campaigned as his counter part he would have taken it. The other fact is the republican candidate wasn't a conservative but where the 2 Governor races were they were both conservative. NJ a democrat state for many years was tired of the elitist and went for someone who cares about the people. I think the republican party is getting back to its base and core principles there are a few progreesives but they'll be gone. The democratic party is split between liberals, progressives and moderates so what is the true base of the democrats nowadays is it the party of elitist and the party that knows whats best for the people and could care less what the people think. We'll soon see in 2010 but you can bet they will no longer have the majority.

If the Dem's do bad in 2010 it will because they are timid and abandon
their base of Progressives. Not because Sarah Limbaugh and Minnesota Bachmann have gone all wolverine.

Ah, the illuminati. There are so many modern conspiracy theories, why go back to the 16th century?

George H W Bush was and is far more honest than ANY of the goons in this administration. Milkman should know that in the dairy world only the cream and scum (or slag) comes to the top. They are supported by thee working (whey) which is the masses of the people. This recent election proved to indicate that the working people are already tired of the crap.

Daddy Bush was a wholly owned subsidiary of the Arabs via the Carlyle Group, etc. He made campaigning ugly and mostly dishonest, he was the father of dirty personal attack ads, of course he was a CIA boss where dirty tricks rule. He did chum with the Gaylords of Okla. though.

Daddy Bush was honorable and honest. YOu've got to be kidding. He is just like his worthless sons, all three of them. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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I could not vote for daddy Bush with his "a thousand points of light" and "new world order."
I figured, "like father,like son." 3 generations of Skull and Bones going back to grand dad. But Kerry was another bonesman.
No matter. The Illuminati has controlled the U.S. for years as all of you know. If you don't know then you may wish to do a little research. Unless you don't care to know like it seems with so many.

Daddy Bush was a honorable man, a good man, an honest man...in today's world being honorable, good and honest doesn't seem to be an asset...We only have to look at the known crooks in Washington that are being investigated....the ones that blatantly and deliberately wave their fingers as us and continue to have their hands in the public till. And you know what, 29 of those pols are democrats and we laugh. Daddy Bush lost his reelection when he made the silly remark of "read my lips, no new taxes." Obama has essentially said the same thing but if this monstrosity of a health bill passes....there will be tax increases like you've never seen before.

You guys don't seem to get my point. I wasn't saying that Perot was or should run. I was saying look what happened to the republican party in 92 when that party basically split. Had there not been a 3rd candidate, daddy Bush would likely as not won. pretty much the same thing with Gore/and pick one, in 2000. If what happened in NY happens in many other races, the GOP as well as the "conservative party" will get no where fast.

Ross Perot was the fix it man....why just pull up the hood, find out what's wrong, then fix it...Ross made a ton of money while owning and running ADT...Much of that money had to do with programing our zip code system for the postal service...he was rather simplistic when it came to figuring out how to run the federal government...then he got a bit paranoid over his daughter's wedding...stating that it was being shadowed by a bunch of thugs....guess he forgot that he had invited a dozen or so politicians.

Ross turned 79 on June 27th, 2009. Easy for me to remember since my dad would have been 100 on June 27th and I voted for Ross. I thought Ventura was a joke but he was surprisingly popular.
But I never figured Arnold would take Californication.

ross perot, isn't gonna happen!

The president is failing to uphold the constitution and that is a crime as described in the constitution. He has overstepped the authority of the office which is not covered by the constitution. Example; Socializing public held companies. That is just wrong and illegal any way it is put. Dictating what people can make as far as money for their services and dictating who can buy certain things and where they can purchase them. The story goes on and on..enough already!!

Ross Perot is a welcome name. Any Republican or conservative that can stomach to listen to Rush needs to be put down.

I did not know a person was placed in prison when he was impeached. Thanks for the education stinker.

How many of us have truly considered, when voting for a governor or anything local or state, who is in the White House?

As a liberal, I would still agree with the initial part of Billy's last post. I would also conclude that the democrats had best pay attention to that race and while I doubt seriously that the "conservative party" is actually going to represent a serious threat, it still needs to be given consideration. On the other hand, I would like to say two words to my republican friends. ROSS PEROT!

Bert, what will tune me in is if anyone can convince me that they will represent Oklahoma. If Oklahoma turns liberal then let the elected represent that and I will move!

I love how people try to make sense out of a midterm election like this. Vastly reduced voter turnouts make it impossible to adequately draw conclusions from it. But hey, at least the Republicans have hope now. Maybe if they stop abandoning core parts of their party, they may rise again. Doubtful that this will happen though with Rush running things though.

Why elect a person just because they are a democrat or republican? I go by liberal or conservative

Billy There are a several democrats from the south that I would rather have represent me than several northern Republicans

I think that the New York election should have told republicans that they better not throw support to a conservative candidate at the last minute. I would also pick a candidate that is well spoken, and can articulate his or her position! The candidate doesn't have to be full of self pride like the president, but he or she does need confidence in their conservative position! On more thing, if the candidate is a RINO, send them packing!

John The race in Califirnia was in a liberal democratic district held by Democrats for many years. It was not a swing race.About the only thing strange about the vote was that the margin of victory by the liberal was not larger. It had a 2 to 1 Obama vote last year

Don't forget the contested race in a swing California district that the democrat won in. It looks like the GOP has a way to go in the federal eletions.

I know the editorial writers don't read these comments. After all, why would anyone want to know what people think of the job they are doing. But, here goes:

It has been proven time and time again that Governor's are elected on local issues. People vote with the candidate that they feel will best Govern the state or at least be better than the last guy. State level elections such as these are not national trends. Infact, in the last 16 or so years off year governor votes have traditionally moved away from the part in the white house. Be it Republican or Democrat.

What's worse is that you are supposed to be experts but all you do is rewrite what every other political columnist or editorial writer is putting in their paper.

Finally, let's not forget that the only federal level election went to Democrats. The upper NY State district has been Republican for 139 years and is, for the first time, represented by a Democrat. What does that say to Republicans? That the only election that affects their standing at a Federal level was lost?

Perhaps politics shouldn't be treated like the childish game this paper and so many others treat it as. It's about time that we look at the value of a person as a representative of a people and not the party they are assigned to. Everything about politics in modern America goes against the basic tenets of being a responsible adult:

Do not prejudge
Work with those with whom you disagree towards the best solution
Do not be so arrogant as to refuse to admit your follies

Did Brad Henry's 74-county landslide victory represent a change in Oklahoma toward Democrats? Of course not. This editorial is totally baseless and delusional. Obama's approval ratings in exit poll Tuesday in both Virginia and New Jersey are exactly the same as they were last year when he was elected. He still remains immensely popular in both states, where there just happened to be lousy Democratic candidates on the ballot.

Thank you Milkman.

The thing about Republicans is they want to imprison people who politically disagree with them. That's what "Impeach Obama Now" means. You want to imprison a guy because people voted for him.

As long as the water swirls, it's Bush's hand on the lever that did it. It doesn't matter that he left the room.

Most polls show that the American people still blame Bush more for the economy than Obama.
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Sallie, Del City, Here's an article from the Marine Times.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2009/11/military_veteransbill_coburnhold_110309w/

"Second, the current economy truly is Obama’s responsibility now. Bush bashing doesn’t play anymore."

Now this statement I agree with 100%, but I don't know what to do nor do I trust the idiots in DC to 'fix" this issue. Borrow and spend....Same song, second verse.

Milkman, what about the va benefits? I must have slept through something again. Dang....Are there other bills attached that Coburn objects too? Congress is pretty darn sneaky about including one good bill in with others that may be objectionable. Let me know if you will where I can snoop for further data if you please (a bill number perhaps). Many thanks.

I see where Tom Coburn is holding up a bill for veterans benefits by himself in the Senate. That is a Republican for you. Talk about war, act like their all patriotic and hold up benefits for our veterans after they have fought for our freedom. He even tried to remain anonymous with his delay. What a chicken shit.
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c, Noble, Impeach Obama for what? What law has he broken? Give us the details.
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yes, what about that race Milkman? The "Republican" who endorsed card check, supported the Democrats health care plan and then after it was apparent that no one wanted to vote for a RINO, dropped out of the race and endorsed the Democrat, it became a two man race between the Independent and the Democrat, with the Republican still listed on the Ballot gaining 5% of the vote. The Democrat got less than 50% of the vote, the Independent got 45% of the vote. When can you recall an independent, not endorsed by either party, winning 45% of the vote? So, say whatever you like, but the real answer is clear. Obama has gotta go. Impeach Obama now.

two = too

Bert, what about that Congressional race in New York? Does that one count two? Did that send a message? Is this the fair and balance OREPUBCO at work?
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Stinker One problem the Republicans had over the last few years is that they wanted to act like liberal Democrats. Conservatives are saying enough is enough. The difference between the Republican and Democrat in that race was very little if any. But after the trouncing that the Democrats took in Virginia and the loss they took in the solid Democrat state of New Jersey sends a message from voters