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OKC Central Chat transcript, May 23, 2014

by Steve Lackmeyer Modified: May 23, 2014 at 12:40 pm •  Published: May 23, 2014

The Oklahoman's Steve Lackmeyer took questions from readers in today's OKC Central Live Chat. You can join Steve's Q&A's on Fridays at 10:30 a.m. and submit your questions about the happenings in and around downtown Oklahoma City. Below is an unedited transcript of the chat.

NewsOK 9:58 a.m. Hey everyone. We'll get started with the chat at 10:30 a.m. This will be the new, permanent time for the OKC Central Chat on Fridays. You can start submitting your questions now.
Steve Lackmeyer 10:32 a.m. Good morning!
Gary T 10:32 a.m. Good morning Steve and happy Friday to you. I appologize for my rude tone when it came to talking about the "NIMBY's" last week in the chat. I just get a little tired of a few people upending development of a potentially great area because of something they don't completely understand. They (a vocal few) see it as a parking and noise issue and it bringing down the value of their homes. While street parking may increase in the area, there are things the residents can do to help deter it. And the idea of the value decreasing due to a few restaurants opening up is completely ludicrous. If anything, their property value would increase due to a more energetic 23rd street. OK Joe pointed out last week that he supports the efforts and I believe there are people in the area who support it, but they are not as vocal as the people against it. With all that being said, where do we stand on the Guyutes and Daebak K restaurants? Do you think there will be much of a push back from the MP/HH people if/when Marty Dillon gets started on the Tower Theatre renovation?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:34 a.m. From what I've observed, the two sides of this discussion are not unreasonable people. I do see some middle ground. I suspect a resolution will be found. As for Marty Dillion and the Tower Theater, I see nothing that gives me any confidence there anything done anytime soon.
Gary T 10:34 a.m. When can we expect to see ground broken on the new housing on Lincoln that used to be a hotel?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:35 a.m. With Dick Tanenbaum, I've learned that renderings and concepts aren't final until he says it is. So my answer is, I don't know.
Marco 10:35 a.m. Do you see Oklahoma City's growth having similarities to Austin, Tx growth?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:43 a.m. No. People keep trying to compare Oklahoma City to one city or another, when really, there is no comparison . Oklahoma City is very unique, starting with a gunshot that got it all started on April 22, 1889. The city's history, it's experience through the oil bust, the MAPS story and even the 1995 bombing make for a very compelling argument that Oklahoma City is no ordinary town. People notice this when they visit. I can't explain it. It's a vibe, it's an attitude, it's a series of quirks that sometimes drive us crazy. And this community is in the midst of a dramatic cultural, social and political change that transforming how our community interacts, how it approaches development and planning, how it approaches education, employment and culture, and how it sees itself. We're not going to be Austin. We're not going to be Dallas. We're not going to be Kansas City. And we're not going to be any other city. And I just don't see Oklahoma City traveling a road already traveled. We're on our own. We're continuing to experiment, take risks and do things others say we can't do (like host a successful NBA team or turn an embarrassing river into a world class water sports venue). So that's what I think.
Gary T 10:43 a.m. Any chance we will see more brownstones added?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:45 a.m. If you had asked me a couple of years ago, or even a year ago, I would have instantly said "no." But the Brownstones have approached a near sell-out (finally). It wasn't easy. The project is not a success when compared to The Hill or Block 42. But it's a unique product. And there really isn't much of it left. Developers are nearing a point where they will build something on the remaining empty lots. The homeowners association rules seem to dictate more brownstones. Negotiations have taken place on whether another product might be an acceptable replacement. We'll see.
Gary T 10:45 a.m. What are your thoughts on the city using eminent domain to acquire land surrounding the Central Park? Don't you think that should be handled by private developers?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:50 a.m. Funny thing about private developers - they need land before they can proceed with what they like to do. And despite all the wonderful talk about free market, etc., the truth is the system isn't always effective in addressing inner-city blight. If the free market is always the best solution, why is the Tower Theater on NW 23 still dark when everything around it is thriving? The truth is some property owners don't even act in their own best interests. Some just prefer to let their holdings sit and rot. Others are hoarders and will build up collections of junk instead of entertaining attractive purchase offers. So the question becomes, how does one balance the community's interest in seeing the area around the city's new park and convention center become a safe, attractive place, versus a person's right to do nothing and maintain property in a blighted manner? It's a question with no wrong answers, just many different opinions.
Gary T 10:50 a.m. Steve, here is the link to the tickets for Lyric Theater's Spamalot. Hope you can make it!
Polo 10:50 a.m. What are the vacancy rates for all of the completed new apartment complexes downtown? Are the Maywood Apartments full?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:50 a.m. They're all very full.
Marco 10:50 a.m. What are the height limits in Bricktown? Can a skyscraper go in there? Do you see Tapstone (Tom Ward) building eventually in Bricktown?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:52 a.m. The height limit is generally 10 stories, with approval from the Downtown Design Review Committee. I see a far more likely scenario of Tapstone and Tom Ward trying to do a deal involving conversion of the upper floors of Spaghetti Warehouse into offices than Ward going for new construction.
Polo 10:52 a.m. Have you heard anything new from OG&E/Rainey Williams on their announcement? I don't know how OKC decided to tear down Stage Center without actual design drawings in place.
Steve Lackmeyer 10:53 a.m. I'm awaiting a requested update. I'm wondering if people will like or hate what they hear next.
Marco 10:53 a.m. Are there any residential skyscrapers being planned for OKC? Have you heard anything on the horizon? Austin had an explosion of them in the last 8 years, do you think OKC could in the next 10
Steve Lackmeyer 10:54 a.m. It's talked about, but so far nothing serious is imminent.
Polo 10:54 a.m. How many years away are we from seeing the Plaza district pedestrian/bike connected to Classen then to downtown as a cohesive connection as an urban connection?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:55 a.m. Classen Boulevard is an area in play now. The street could be improved greatly if it were to be added to the next bond issue expected to go to voters in 2017. And if that happens, that connection could be pretty easy.
Andrew 10:55 a.m. Recently, you mentioned that downtown has a very good chance of getting a larger more well known grocery store in the near future. Can you tell us more about that?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:55 a.m. No. Let's not jinx it. I suspect it's still two to five years away.
ALittleDown 10:56 a.m. Hi Steve - just spent a couple days in Tulsa and while I have in the past been a bit "OKC is best!" - I think that we are fooling ourselves that OKC is ahead of Tulsa in placemaking and district creating. I don't see it as a competition - but more a sense of accomplishment - we have a lot more things we could be doing and don't seem to be doing them very quickly or diversely. Is it good to have Midtown in the hands of a single entity (a mild exaggeration, perhaps) versus a diverse group of people? The whole George Kaiser support of Brady District, the abundance of little neighborhoods bristling with art... Are we letting hubris cloud realistic assessments of where OKC is as a whole.
Steve Lackmeyer 10:57 a.m. I don't think Oklahoma City is the best. I don't think it's the worst. I think Oklahoma City is on a good track but can always do better. I'd say the same about Tulsa. I think it's silly for either city to bash or judge the other - we need each other to thrive if this state is to move forward. I agree, great things are underway in downtown Tulsa and Kaiser is the sort of person Oklahoma City sorely lacks.
Marco 10:58 a.m. Do you know when we will see some plans from Blair Humphreys on the new "Wheeler District" planned for the airport and the land they bought to the east?
Steve Lackmeyer 10:58 a.m. I'll have a story soon.
Polo 10:58 a.m. Do you think the impact of GE will be bigger than all of the companies derived from Chesapeake's founders and former top dawgs? Chesapeake has basically brought Sandridge, American Energy Partners, Access Midstream, TapStone, and now 77... as well as other smaller spin offs to OKC.
Steve Lackmeyer 10:59 a.m. I think it's a different kind of impact. They're both big.
Marco 10:59 a.m. When will we see construction start for the street cars and what street will be first..... You would think they would have done this in conjunction with Project 180. Will the street cars development include street improvements.... crosswalks, landscaping, etc?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:00 a.m. If I recall correctly, we're looking at work starting this next year. I asked a similar question about Project 180 when it started. City officials insisted it would make little difference.
Polo 11:00 a.m. When will the Edge and Mosaic be completed?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:01 a.m. The Edge begins to take in tenants late summer, I'm not sure about Moaaic though I do know the building is topping off.
Polo 11:03 a.m. Anything new with Stockyard City?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:04 a.m. The Option C design for the downtown boulevard, the one scored highest by the Oklahoma Department of Transportation, appears to close off Exchange Avenue access between the Stockyards and downtown.
Guest 11:05 a.m. Steve, do you know what barbecue restaurant the pictures that Darnell Mayberry posted on Twitter were from?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:05 a.m. Nope.
Nick 11:05 a.m. Are you worried about the Metropolitan not being built?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:06 a.m. Nope. I received an update from Bomasada Group this week. Site prep should be starting soon. They had a delay in the financing that is now completed. People need to realize these big real estate deals are complicated and don't always follow original timelines.
Marco 11:07 a.m. Are there any events downtown this holiday weekend?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:08 a.m. My top pick would be the Paseo Arts Festival. We also have the Big 12 Baseball Tournament at the ballpark, which I encourage everyone to attend, and of course, the Thunder.
Coy 11:08 a.m. Any big retail prospects looking into the downtown area? Automobile Ally?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:08 a.m. Define "big."
Marco 11:08 a.m. Have you heard if the First National center has had any offers or if they are in the stages of selling to an identified purchaser?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:09 a.m. People are kicking the tires. But there is a lot of sticker shock out there.
James 11:09 a.m. Is there anything new with regards to the downtown airpark?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:09 a.m. Yeah, I'll have an update soon.
Polo 11:09 a.m. When are you going to zipline across the river? Mick Cornett may give you some pointers on what not to do....
Steve Lackmeyer 11:09 a.m. Never.
RIckOKC 11:09 a.m. I honestly agree that Boulevard Alternative "D" would be the best choice for the organic development of grid-style urban fabric in the western "core" of downtown. But if Alternative "C" is built with all of the adjustments suggested by FBB, what would be so bad about that? If the boulevard is at grade east of Western and includes full intersections at Reno and Lee,I just don't see why a mile-long diagonal road that only blocks two or three cross streets is so evil. And if we are able to finance the sidewalks and landscaping we want, it could really be an awesome edition. I guess I'm just thankful for the victories already accomplished (less berms, lanes, and speed). Am I way off base?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:09 a.m. You seem reasonable to me.
James 11:10 a.m. What is the consensus favorite food truck that roams the downtown scene, from what you hear? What makes it so special?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:11 a.m. I'll just give you a list: Hall's Pizza Kitchen, Roxy's Ice Cream Social, Big Truck Tacos, and probably a bunch of others that more frequent food truck aficionados will argue are far more popular. I don't think there is a right answer to your question.
BethanySooner 11:11 a.m. Hey Steve. In your opinion is OKC Urban Renewal much more pro-active in assembling properties and putting out requests for proposals because of the building boom downtown, or is there more intentional and effective leadership in place now?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:12 a.m. I think the restructuring of Urban Renewal as part of a greater organization, The Alliance for Economic Development of Oklahoma City, and the addition of Cathy O'Connor, and the hiring of fresh young thinkers have changed the game.
RIckOKC 11:13 a.m. I know that we grow frustrated by public officials with backward thinking that stand in the way of progress, and we tend to focus on them. But for a different perspective, what public officials are doing a better job than we realize? Who should we acknowledge for their accomplishments/efforts/influence that we don't acknowledge enough?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:16 a.m. In terms of downtown development, infrastructure, planning and public safety? Cathy O'Connor, Brent Bryant, Tom Anderson, Craig Freeman, Kenny Jordan, Eric Wenger, Dave Lopez and Bill Citty.
RIckOKC 11:16 a.m. What do you think about the city possibly acquiring the land on which the half-completed AICC currently sits? Would that be a good thing? Should/would the city complete it as envisioned?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:16 a.m. I don't know.
Blair 11:16 a.m. Do you think OKC will reclaim the property along the Okla River and use it for private /public area for OKC
Steve Lackmeyer 11:16 a.m. Again, I don't know.
James 11:17 a.m. Question regarding the mayor's development round table and comparing okc to Vancouver: I thought it was really interesting to see how they incorporated a neighborhood onto their river way. They had large sidewalks in front of residential, and where there should have been the typical 4 lane street, there was a water way. The architecture on the residences was great. Do you think this will ever be achievable on the oklahoma river? Are some developers currently planning it?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:19 a.m. I think anything is possible in terms of advanced planning efforts along the river. It's a blank canvass still with a lot of smart people looking at its future.
BethanySooner 11:19 a.m. The project that will make others cities green with envy seemed to be progressing these last few months according to your knowledge, then last week all of a sudden it's shaky. Is this just a temporary blip on the radar screen or is this thing dying? If it does collapse will you let us know what the proposal was?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:19 a.m. It's shaky. That's all I can say right now.
guest 11:19 a.m. good morning.... ok so if OKC takes over the Indian Cultural Center and repurposes it.... would that perhaps be something that Dallas and KC would be jelous of?? It's not everyday that a city can incentivise someone with an already built and ready project to add on to!!
Steve Lackmeyer 11:19 a.m. No.
James 11:20 a.m. This is my first time asking questions on this forum. Thank you for all that you do. I do think it would be great to have Richard Mize as a guest.
Steve Lackmeyer 11:20 a.m. I think Richard would enjoy that! I'll ask.
RIckOKC 11:20 a.m. I know your job is to report opinion more than to sway opinion, but to what issue have you brought awareness or caused change that you would most point to as an accomplishment of which you are proud? I see your work and influence and am thankful for your contribution, but what would you look to as a tangible difference your reporting has made on the city?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:21 a.m. I think readers are much more interested and engaged in how the boulevard is designed. That's a good thing. I think readers also have a better appreciation for how planning can help create a more enjoyable city. So maybe I've got that going for me ....
Toby 11:21 a.m. Are Fassler Hall and Dust Bowl still expected to open sometime this summer?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:22 a.m. I don't remember. Let me ask and get back on that.
Robert 11:22 a.m. What are your thoughts on a potential construction joint venture between BOK and Devon?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:22 a.m. Yes, I have thoughts.
Michael 11:22 a.m. What question have we not asked that you would like to answer?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:23 a.m. Am I worried that if I confirm talks are getting serious for a tower at Main and Hudson that this chat will get crazy again?
Guest 11:23 a.m. Last week we discussed why companies want to locate downtown - business, political, legal hub, etc. Agglomeration and economic effects are well known. However, there are disadvantages such as parking and traffic pressures. How do companies balance their location decisions particularly when parking and traffic are a concern to employees and therefore impacts attracting and retaining talent? Why not locate on the inner or outer ring, especially in the (apparently always in Midwest cities) affluent northwest quadrant?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:33 a.m. First, when it comes to traffic, I encounter far worse traffic in Edmond than I ever see going in or out of downtown. So let's eliminate that as a factor.
As far as parking goes, there is a crunch right now. But companies choosing to locate downtown are generally asking for and getting the parking they need to get the deal done. And more than 1,600 spaces is being added this year. I don't know anyone who is having to walk much further from their car downtown than they do on a busy day at a Super Walmart or the mall.
Some companies do locate in northwest Oklahoma City. But it lacks the community, the excitement and vibe of being downtown. You drive your car to a building that looks like a dozen other buildings, you park, you go into the office. And then you get back in your car, drive to Applebees, Olive Garden, Chili's or Subway for lunch. Then you get back in your car, drive back to work, finish your day and go home.
Other companies choose to locate downtown, where employees park their cars (and usually they do have a place to park). They can walk into the Ground Floor Cafe or a dozen other places for breakfast and/or coffee where they're on a first name basis with the owners. They run into friends and business acquaintances. During the day they can walk outside, maybe catch a live art or music performance nearby, or stroll the Myriad Gardens. They can walk to dozens of restaurants over lunch. They can play basketball in the cage across from the gardens. They can meet a significant other at the art museum. And at the end of the day, they can walk for dinner and then grab a Thunder game. They can meet for drinks at the new O Bar at the Ambassador, or hang out at the former Neighborhood Lounge (now So Fine Lounge) And a growing number of these employees are choosing to live downtown. And in that equation, more and more of them are riding their bike to work and not bothering to drive a car. And in a couple of years, they'll have another option for getting around - a streetcar.
Which work day appeals to you more?
John 11:33 a.m. How has turnout been at the Big XII baseball tournament and has it had a positive affect on downtown business? Is the tournament something that the city is making a priority to keep?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:34 a.m. People are concerned that the city risks losing the tournament. The rest of this question is better posed to the sports folks.
Ernest.O 11:34 a.m. With the rise of Midtown, Plaza, and Uptown districts what trend have you noticed: Developement increases community involvement or community involvement increases developement?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:34 a.m. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Guest 11:34 a.m. Steve, your comments on OKC compared to Austin, et al. YOU JUST NAILED IT! Hard to put into words, but you certainly did!
Steve Lackmeyer 11:34 a.m. Thanks.
MidTown Mac 11:35 a.m. to the acceptability of the NW 23rd redevelopment to the residential property owners of the MP and HH neighborhoods...a couple of things...I am a home owner in MP and I don't think that there is any chance that developments such as the Rise will have any negative effect on my property value, quite the opposite is more likely...sometimes individuals that have no good argument will raise the negative-influence-on-property-value argument because it sounds's me the data, show me the numbers, and show me the expert projections. There certainly can be no positive for property values from things such as vacant lots, blood plasma collection centers, and car washes. Thanks for your work with helping to find compromise between developers and residents.
Polo 11:35 a.m. Do you see national architects/landscape architects/planners setting up shop in OKC or are the local ones absorbing most of the growth? Who is your favorite architect by the way?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:36 a.m. My favorite architect is Solomon Andrew Layton. We are seeing more young architects stay in Oklahoma City as a result of what is taking place in our city.
Steve Lackmeyer 11:38 a.m. FYI, a press release just went out from the Thunder. Serge Ibaka's healing is going far better than expected. He is now listed as "day to day." They say it is now possible he might return to the playoffs.
(Oops. That was unprofessional of me, wasn't it?)
Guest 11:38 a.m. The tentative state budget that was agreed to last week didn't include funding for the Indian museum. Have you heard anything to indicate that might change before the budget is passed? What is the likelihood that the city tries to recover the land? The city needs to see some benefit from this mess, whether it's from a completed museum or selling the land for other development. Also, have you heard any experts indicate if there is legal ground for contributors to sue the state to recover funds?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:39 a.m. I can't answer this question.
Guest 11:39 a.m. What will be the potential loss in developable property and hence missed opportunity to grow the tax base because of undevelopable highway space and embankments created by Boulevard Option C?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:39 a.m. I think that's one of the questions yet to be addressed.
Guest 11:39 a.m. Project 180 improves the pedestrian and bicyclist experience making downtown more vital and liveable. Is that why Devon and Larry Nichols loaned money for Project 180? If not, what was their goal?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:40 a.m. It was one of their goals.
Guest 11:40 a.m. How have Friends for a Better Boulevard been able to be so effective?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:40 a.m. They're are very persistent and they're good at social media.
Guest 11:40 a.m. Another week has gone by. Have you been able to find anyone in support of Option C?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:40 a.m. Yes. The Greater Oklahoma City Chamber.
Guest 11:42 a.m. Did ODOT ever fully respond to your questions? Would you mind posting those all in one place?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:43 a.m. They're not happy with me.
Bob 11:45 a.m. Good Morning, Steve. Nice story on the Arcade building. Did they talk about parking in that area? Might be nice if someone could talk the FOP into building a parking garage on the lot between the old Grace cleaners and that bulding. Could sevice the Civic Center as well.
Steve Lackmeyer 11:45 a.m. I think you're on the right track.
ALittleDown 11:45 a.m. Follow-up on Kaiser - why do you think we lack a man of his wealth and stature - willing to invest in the infrastructure to make OKC better for a generation or two? Is it that our folks are a bit too young to be thinking of legacy - or something else?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:46 a.m. Oklahoma City is wired differently than Tulsa. It's not all bad. It's just different.
Guest 11:46 a.m. What happened to your Open Records Act request to ODOT for all the public cooments made by the public about the boulevard?
Bob 11:47 a.m. Everything you want to know about downtownactivity can be found here:
Marco 11:48 a.m. With surface parking disappearing in the Central Business you see Bricktown moving ot develop theirs? Will the city build a parking garage in Bricktown? So much surface parking on Reno!
Steve Lackmeyer 11:48 a.m. I see increased potential for structured parking in Bricktown.
Guest 11:48 a.m. The area already completed on the crosstown boulevard has a median but no trees, I'd hope it was just because they didn't want to plant them in the winter but now I am not so sure. Does ODOT plan to plant trees or do anything in the area before it reaches Western?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:48 a.m. I don't think that's been decided yet.
Nick 11:48 a.m. What happened to your blog post about AICC becoming a new OK River Resort?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:48 a.m. It's gone.
Polo 11:49 a.m. Who owns that odd area in Bricktown with painted buffalos on the north side Main Street next to the rail road tracks.
Steve Lackmeyer 11:49 a.m. Don Karchmer.
david ball 11:49 a.m. as people criticize ODOT for the horrid boulevard designs, there is one thing to keep in mind. they are being asked to do something they are not trained to do, and to think in a manner that is completely foreign to them. their mission is to move large volumes of cars, not to design vibrant urban areas. it is like asking a dog to behave like a cat. they just don't know how.
Polo 11:49 a.m. Main and Hudson! Yes this talk just got interesting! Do tell more!
Steve Lackmeyer 11:49 a.m. Tower.
Marco 11:49 a.m. Do you think we could hear an announcement this summer on Main and Hudson? Do you think it will be more impressive than OG&Es proposal?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:49 a.m. Yes.
Nick 11:49 a.m. Can you confirm that talks are getting serious for a tower at Main and Hudson?
Nick 11:50 a.m. Your earlier response regarding an update on the Rainey Williams tower was kind of ominous. Are we in for bad news?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:50 a.m. I don't know yet.
Robert 11:50 a.m. I'll help you out Steve. My sources say within 10-15 stories of the Devon Tower. That'd sure be a pretty intersection with three new towers and the park...all leading down Film Row. I'm really liking the Arts District / Film Row over the next five years.
Steve Lackmeyer 11:50 a.m. You've got some interesting sources.
Coy 11:50 a.m. What sort of development to the shopping center in the Plaza District is Steve Mason setting out to do?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:50 a.m. He's not sure yet.
Tyler 11:50 a.m. Steve, I love you.
Steve Lackmeyer 11:51 a.m. Well, that's nice. But I'm married. And I'm on the other team. But we can still be friends.
Tyler 11:51 a.m. Will you marry me?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:51 a.m. No. But if you're ever in town, I'll still meet you at Waffle House.
Coy 11:51 a.m. Steve, are you going to be at the Paseo Arts Festival?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:52 a.m. I'm not sure.
Marco 11:52 a.m. What is going to happen to the south half of the block that OG&E plans to build? Are there plans for it?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:52 a.m. Eventually it will be in play.
Tyler 11:52 a.m. Thank you for posting my comment. I am entirely serious.
Steve Lackmeyer 11:52 a.m. That's scary.
Tyler 11:52 a.m. Hahahahaha you remembered waffle house!!!
Guest 11:53 a.m. Is the devoplment on east side of WRWa dead ?
Steve Lackmeyer 11:53 a.m. That's not a development I'm following. Brianna Bailey might know more about this.
NotInYourBackyardEither 11:53 a.m. @MidTown Mac - the only data you need to look is is the number pets AND CHILDREN that have been hit by cars in our neighborhoods. I don't know any of the so-called "NIMBYS" that live downtown that are against development, per se. They are only against UNPLANNED AND CARELESS development. (Like putting a 2am bar next door to a 1st grader's home.)
Steve Lackmeyer 11:54 a.m. OK gang, aside from Tyler's odd proposal, good chat. Have a great weekend.
by Steve Lackmeyer
Business Reporter
Steve Lackmeyer is a reporter and columnist who started his career at The Oklahoman in 1990. Since then, he has won numerous awards for his coverage, which included the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, the city's Metropolitan...
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