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Oklahoma State football: Relationship between Mike Gundy, Mike Holder is fractured

COMMENTARY — OSU coach is not pleased with his athletic director, causing Gundy to flirt with SEC jobs.
by Berry Tramel Modified: December 5, 2012 at 10:10 am •  Published: December 4, 2012

Who convinced the OSU brass to interview Gundy for the head coaching job 12 years ago, when Gundy was all of 33 years old, and instruct Les Miles to add Gundy to his staff.

And Holder and Gundy have this common ground: an unquestioned passion for OSU.

“If you can ever find the common ground and unite people behind the common vision…” said an OSU source. “You can't be playing like kids in the sandbox. Gotta man up, work through your differences.”

Gundy wants veto power over nonconference scheduling. But sources say he has other issues, too, from recruiting logistics to constantly being told no about small things.

“I sensed the last year or so, Mike's been unhappy with Holder,” said the source close to Gundy. “I didn't know he was bucking Mike that much. Mike lets that stuff roll off his back pretty good. Apparently it has gotten that way.”

Of course, Gundy has his communication problems, too. An OSU source said that while Tennessee contacted Holder about talking to Gundy, Arkansas did not — and Gundy didn't inform his superiors. That's bad form.

And Holder has talked with Gundy about the scheduling issue. Talking with your boss can be like answered prayers.

Sometimes the answer is no.

Would Gundy really consider taking a job where it's tougher to win, where he's not the conquering hero, in part because he doesn't want to play Mississippi State (2013 opener) or even Florida State (possible 2014 opener) on neutral fields?

It makes no sense. Stop flirting with places you don't want to be, and start working on the place you do.

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