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Public aid need grows in Oklahoma, census finds
Use of food stamps rose to almost 492,000 Oklahomans in June, up nearly 18.6% from last year

BY VALLERY BROWN AND PAUL MONIES    Comments Comment on this article83
Published: September 29, 2009

Nearly one in four Oklahoma families with children younger than 18 were on some type of public assistance in 2008, according to newly released census estimates.

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Public assistance includes food stamps and supplemental Social Security income.

Food stamp use is at an all-time high in the state. The use of the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program increased to almost 492,000 people in June 2009. The state Department of Human Services said that is up nearly 18.6 percent compared with the same time last year.

"Food stamps are one of the leading indicators of economic distress,” said David Blatt, director of policy for the antipoverty Oklahoma Policy Institute.

About 11 percent of the state’s households received some type of food stamp assistance last year, up from 10 percent in 2007 and 2.4 percent higher than the national average in 2008. The estimates come from the Census Bureau’s 2008 American Community Survey, which surveyed geographic areas with a population of more than 65,000.

"As their income dwindles and other expenses rise, it’s the food budget that shows need,” Blatt said.

The percentage of Oklahoma households with children younger than 18 that received public assistance was almost 24 percent in 2008, according to survey estimates. The national rate is 19.4 percent. Anne Roberts, executive director of the Oklahoma Institute of Child Advocacy, said one thing the numbers can’t tell is that even though many families receive this assistance, they often live in communities with few choices for buying healthy and wholesome foods.

"The bottom line for small children is that their brains and bodies are growing. That’s why it’s so important we have these programs,” she said.

Roberts said public assistance also alleviates stress on young children and their families.

This can help children get out of the cycle of poverty and reach their full potential, she said.

Among cities, one in four Oklahoma City and Tulsa households with children were on some type of public assistance.

In Lawton, the rate was estimated at 22.9 percent.

That was followed by Norman at 19.2 percent and Broken Arrow at 11.3 percent.

The Census Bureau did not release estimates for Edmond in that category.

"This is stressful on children and makes it harder for them to be at school, attentive and ready for success,” Blatt said. "So the problems of limited income have far reaching consequences throughout our society.”

Poverty levels
The state’s poverty rate was unchanged since last year at about 15.9 percent, or 579,000 Oklahomans, but still remained higher than the national poverty rate of 13.2 percent last year.

Poverty is defined as an income of $21,200 or less for a family of four.

"I think the concern is that even at the end of a period of strong economic growth, one in six Oklahomans were living below the poverty level,” Blatt said.

He said this shows some Oklahoma families were struggling to meet their basic needs before the recession.

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I don't know which race is predominate in DHS but I went to the local office once to pick up an application for a friend and the ratio of people in the waiting room during the time I was there was almost 100% black, the exceptions were me and a coupleof Hispanic women. The employees behind the counter were about 90% black, 10% white. I noticed because I found it shocking and the employees were Rude (with a capitol R). Of course this doesn't mean anything overall but still...
Phil, Yukon - Oct 2, 2009 at 8:21 pm
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I find it amazing that people are surprised to learn that when free goodies, service and money is offered to the lazy/incompetent/incapable, they gladly take up the offer (not to paint the elderly, incapacitated or handicapped with the same brush),
This should not come as a surprise, our whole society has shifted to scamming the public as a way of life, demanding that the government pass laws to assist our shiftless a**es.

As little as 50 years ago, this would have all been unthinkable but today we demand "the government" do for us what we are too lazy or incompetent to do for ourselves and punish those who stand in the way of our greed. We've become a nation of professional victims. Bad news: it's going to get worse.
Phil, Yukon - Oct 1, 2009 at 9:05 am
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This will proves to you Oklahomans how you claim oklahoma a better state than others. You poor conservatives can't even afford healthcare.
Huey, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 7:14 pm
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Good fortune with the practice Chris- stay safe...
David, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Bellmon was awesome. Well gota go to Football practice, have fun.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Rachel, I wouldnt argue with that. Every year, my test scores are some of the highest in the state. I was in OKC at one of their high schools and I increased their history scores from 31% the year before me to 89%. I wouldnt argue at all about that. I dont agree with the arguement that some kids cant learn. YOu just have to find what motivates kids to learn. The teachers who are against job performance pay are the ones who arent confident in their abilities.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Chris- I would agree with you there are some jobs in society that are way underpaid for what they are expected to perform, including but not limited to teachers, social workers, firemen, policeman, and the military.
Our legislature are easily some of the most over paid folks I can imagine!
Very sorry to see Henry Bellmon died- he was one of what I would consider the "great generation" as a citizen and politician.
David, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I think teachers are underpaid, actually. But, I think that payment (like in any job field) should be based on job performance (not student performance as sometimes the students do not reflect well on the teacher).
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Numbers like those in this article do seem to conflict the Horatio Alger ethic that many want to hold dear....
Matt1 what you saying does not surprise or shock me- one of the cocepts I was exposed to in the military was "frame of reference". We all have our own frame of reference that is the accumilation of our experence in life. In the military we were expected to be able to seek our and understand the "FOR" to then be able to act within that FOR for sucess of the misson. Folks inside and outside the military misuse the context today as the "hearts and minds" approach.
There is clearly a very different frame of reference at work for many of these folks lives- many of the experences, values, and ethics we all in general take for granted as a mutual commmon reference point are clearly not present in some of these homes.
I don't see many of us who have the luxury of sitting and being able to espouse here as having very accurate grasp of the FOR for these folks- as you point out- we can read, and our parents (mostly I expect) could read and conveyed a value on it. Folks are wanting to point to the root causes for the issue which has some merit I suppose, but the crux is the numbers exsist and are getting "worse" by the standards they are measured by in this article.
I don't know the pointing the fingers at anyone else and suggesting they lack what we all might deem as the "moral character" needed to suceed is really a answer to the issues these number represent.
I don't know the answers- but it is way too easy to push it off ethical beliefs- I have not met many folks in my life who were poor, on the edge where a medical issue or a late utility payment would dystroy their worlds who were happy with the situation.
Matt1- I whole heartidly agree with you, these childern are at tremendous risk- I sometimes joke with my daughter that she has to be educated and a productive member of society so I will be able to get something from Social Security in the future! These kids are the future of our world, and our society- It may be true that the parents are a "write off" already in terms of society, but I don't see any of us as being able to afford to write off these kids also...
Enough rant, please be able to enjoy that afternoon for me, what kind of fruit are you looking to have for your retirement?
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David, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Matt1, dont forget that we are overpaid according to some idiots out there. They couldnt survive one day in our shoes.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Now, I can think of an inner city situation where the ratios are much different...that was toned down war zone and sadly, survival as well learning were critical. Attitudes were much different as teachers were almost universally viewed as the enemy by students and parents alike or so it sure seemed. I'm not even going to touch that situation.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Thank you for your insight, Matt. I believe that all children have the propensity for education.

I was lucky enough to attend a private school through my early elementary school years. When I did attend public school - I noticed a switch amongst the attitudes of students. I was more advanced than most of the students. I don't, however, believe that this had to do with their home enviroment. I think it was mostly a curriculum based problem. Private school presented a greater challenge at an earlier age. By the way, in the private school I attended - they accepted children based on grants as well as private funding. The grant based students tended to work harder than the normal privately funded students.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Rachel, did I believe thay were on welfare? I never assumed anything. But I learn that half of my kids would not have computers, high speed internet access was rare but some had cheaper dial-up services (mostly rural remember). Money was tight, they had free breakfast and lunch, could not afford to bring their lunch (many would like to after seeing what those that did had to eat) but they could not afford it. Always kept snacks available as some children needed an extra boost (none ever abused it). Many had never eaten fruit such as orange. In discussing health issues and taking care of the body, one finds out that these kids lived very simply. Sometimes went without utilities at home while waiting for a paycheck to turn the power back on. They did with what they had. And most parents wanted their kids to do well. They just needed help in helping their kids. And no matter what their financial status, it was a priviledge to help and work with such ones.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Rachel, first, I often did not have the average mix of students. As a male elementary teacher, I had kids that it was felt would respond better to a male figure, more difficult to handle and such. That said, few are deliberately neglected but a significant number were unable to assist their children at home as they themselves cannot do the work. For example, a parent who cannot read well has a very hard time reading with their children and will often pass on it. If you can't do math, you can't help your child but I have also seen parents decide to learn the skills with their child and they worked together.

Plus the difficulties children face now are much greater than previously (measuring in years). Any long time elementary teacher can tell you this. Broken familes and such, create emotional havoc on the kids more than any time peviously. These are serious issues for the kids, affect them in school greatly. A disproportionate number have a parent that don't really care to be around the child compared to one upon a time. And some, but a small minority, do not really seem concerned about issues such as teeth, eyeglasses and such that affect a child's learning.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:13 pm
I wish they would do a census on how many of these welfare recipiants manage to find the funds to blow at the indian casino on Friday night. That would be more interesting.
REMO, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:02 pm
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Matt: I am curious as to how many students you encountered that were neglected by their parents. Do you believe they were on welfare?
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 1:00 pm
David, absolutely. A lot of it was common sense but much was spelled out since a baseline of expectations and duties was neeeded in the contract one had with the district.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Don't have children if you cannot afford to feed them.
REMO, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 12:51 pm
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Matt1- lucky you! I have a nice "glass cage"- a set of great veiws for me and the whole staff, but I would rather be at home doing similar activities myself.
While you were a teacher, was there a code of ethics and rules you had to adhere to at all times?
While I was in the Military, then with the DOJ I had to sign and adhere to such codes of conduct- just curious about the school systems...
David, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Chris: You've based all of your arguments on assumptions and fallacies. I understand that you have parents who don't care about their children. That is normal. It is normal in every class of society. You made the assumption that people on welfare do not care about their children. BUT, like me, there are parents who do care about their children. I actually opted my 4-year-old son out of Pre-K because I was afraid that it would set him behind since he is already learning how to read and write. I'm sure that I could find him a gifted preschool but it would cost money that I don't have currently. So, I teach him myself. The same with my 3-year-old. My boys are polite and do what is asked of them. I read to them every day. I teach them every day.

You have stereotyped me today. This is why making assumptions and making up "facts" is dangerous in a civil debate. If you cannot support your argument then you should not be posting. It is a waste of time to sift through nonsense.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 12:30 pm
David, I am certainly enjoying the cooler weather these days, thank you. Clearing a few trees so the enough sun will be able to reach some fruit trees I am planting for my retirement years.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Good Day to you Matt1- hope you are getting a chance to enjoy the nice weather. I wanted to take a quick moment and provide you with a laudit- you handled a less than civil exchange very well and your impression seems very similar to mine.
Chris- some of the points you make are salient, revelvent and good, and as a teacher with daily active interface with youth you have some good insights- right up the point your emotions got the better of you. Sorry to see that.
David, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 12:20 pm
As a teacher you should've been better prepared to handle adversity from the parents of your students. Instead, you choose to complain. Maybe you should try teaching in a private school since you're so much better than the general population.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 12:16 pm
people put other people on ignore here because the truth hurts.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:52 am
Cale, go back to your gay bar.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:51 am
Chris, you are an idiot! You prove it every time you post.
Cale, oklahoma city - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:41 am
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wow Chris, getting awfully defensive.
David, Moore - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:40 am
Oh and you say you wonder how an active teacher has time to do this, I guess, wait I know that I am a much better teacher than you are. FACT
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:32 am
Ah, Chris, I can see right now that you are a very angry person or sure come across that way. And one making assumptions that have absolutely no merit.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:32 am
Yeah, I bet you were a great teacher, sitting with your feet propped up reading the newspaper. Telling your kids to do the definitions. YOur whats wrong with this country you tree hugging, POS. And I can tell you one thing, you say your wife is a teacher, your wife would only dream of having test scores as high as mine.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:29 am
I am on welfare? ROFL Not in the past 60 years. Since I was in the classroom and my wife still is....I stand by what I said, I wonder how an active teacher has time to do this. At least you answered in you in your first sentence.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:21 am
Nope and because my students are gone on a trip so I have no students today, my planning is done so I am enjoying an extended lunch period. Thats how Matt1. Its better then sitting on welfare like you. Rachel, you want to know why I am so defensive Becuase everyday, I fight ignorrance. The kind that is taught at home. We as teachers fight htis problem everyday. Last year, I told a parent that her daughter needs to start doing her homewrok and asked if she could help her do it at home, I was told "Thats not my job, its your job to make sure she does her homework." Thats what I deal with. Then to read these posts that say some people can help it, I will agree with that. They are called disabled, they cant help it. Thats the things we battle with, let me ask you this. Are you one of the tools that say we are overpaid too?
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 11:09 am
What I am trying to figure out is how an active teacher has time to follow and comment on these forums during the day. Certainly not an elementary teacher.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:56 am
Chris, why are you attacking my character? Is that the only option you have left?

You don't know me. You don't know my children.
Don't get personal.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:54 am
I have plent of stance. I watch kids come through my school, ones who have a great future. However, this future is ruined by parents like you and milkman. Thats what makes me upset. They have a chance. But when you make your children to be seen, not heard. Then that is why America is struggling today.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:52 am
Look, Chris, if you want your "students" to grow up and be accountable for their actions then maybe you should consider giving them a good role model. Saying "f*ck you" over and over to me is not exactly warranted either and also presents a shadow of doubt on your character. If you wanted to have civil discourse you could continue on in a way that would make me (and others) learn more about your position in this forum. Negativity is generally a last resort for someone who has no credible stance in a debate.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:34 am
Chris, right back at you. If you don't have facts, just make it up.
I know, people who drive Mercedes have their kids on free lunches. If you can't make it up, than just lie about it. Typical Limbeck party liars.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:33 am
Nope and last time I checked, this was a forum, not an english class so I dont really care about proper structure. If I were writing a term paper for a grade, then I would, so again F**K you.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:30 am
You're not an English teacher, are you?
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:24 am
well get used to it rachel, and a damn god one too. Why, because I make my kids work for everything, I dont give extra credit for being lazy. I punish for stupid mistakes. My kids are held responsible for every action. Then when they get older, they hopefully wont be one of these losers who live on welfare. Oh and by the way, I encourage my students to go to college and have gotten many of them (who had no chance at all or even thought about it) get into college and are doing quite well. So F**k you.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:22 am
What exactly have I "spewed" that's false? You're stereotyping. I would hate to think that someone like you is a teacher.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:20 am
My mother raised 3 boys by her self, worked 12 hours a day to provide for us and never got assistance, why? because she worked for everything and wasnt lazy, wy dont you people get your facts straight. You make yourself's look like idiots spewing false facts. These people are lazy. I went to college, bettered myself now I am a teacher.This is because I wanted to be something. Go to college, get a degree, get a job. I look in the paper all the time, there are plenty of jobs. You just cant be lazy.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:18 am
Chris: Can you please cite your source and give me a link?
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:18 am
Rachel, you might want to check your facts, per capita, for every 1 caucasian on welfare, there are 3 african americans. Get your facts straight so you dont make yourself look as stupid as you are.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:13 am
I have no idea, David. When I worked with homeless - the case managers had to send in "referrals" for assistance from DHS and certain charities. As far as I know, The Jesus House and Salvation Army don't do referrals unless it's medically related.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:13 am
The company I worked for downtown will hire homeless people, however they are not contractors for the jesus house, or salvation army. Won't DHS help them?
David, Moore - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:09 am
David, it's not BS. I work downtown. I've worked with homeless before through a previous job. It could be that this is a new program but I do know that if they do not work for the house or have a job through one of the "contractors" that they cannot stay in the house for long.

And I will agree, they do get more money through begging than working. Which is precisely why I never give money to homeless people.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:06 am
Actually, I think it would be interesting to see the ratio of white vs. black on public assistance. Do you have the statistics?
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:03 am
That's BS. I used to work events downtown. They had a homeless guy they hired. Cash out every day so he could keep all of his money. Rather than spend what he needed and save the rest for a deposit on rent or something important. He would leave and go buy cigarettes and booze. They stay homeless for a reason, whatever their reason is i don't know. But, majority of the homeless people I have seen would rather buy booze and smokes than try to have a better life for themselves. However I knew another homeless man that did save, and I ran into him a while back, and after about 4 years he now has an actual house and a life. I'm not saying that all of them are that way, people fall on hard times, I know from experience. But, majority of them do not want to get jobs. They will tell you they can get more money begging than working.
David, Moore - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 am
yeah u soooo smart. y mo whiteys in DHS? coz there be mo whiteys! DUH! now y dont u look at the percentages dumas.
Buzz Lightyear, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 10:00 am
Something neat that I've seen lately: The United Way gives out "vouchers". Instead of giving panhandlers money, you can give them a voucher that includes a free meal and a bus ticket.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:59 am
Nice, Buzz... really intelligent.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:57 am
David: The Jesus House on Shartel requires them to work either at the house or for one of the numerous companies that offers them jobs. Same thing with the Salvation Army. But it's a trap. They only make enough money to buy a few things and the rest of it goes back into the "house".
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:56 am
It's still laziness. There are places they can go that will work with them. Won't the jesus house that they stand outside of and smoke their cigarettes help them get jobs? I've always wondered how they can't afford clothes, or food, yet they are always smoking marlboro reds?
David, Moore - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:53 am
coz i be a white honkey racist KKK bible-thumper u beotch. so stfu.
Buzz Lightyear, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:53 am
Why do you have to use ebonics to make your point, Buzz? I know more white people on assistance than black. Why don't you walk into your local DHS office and see for yourself?
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:50 am
I agree, Stephen. There is far too much generalization. It's easier to pass judgment than it is to understand and sympathize.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:48 am
why should i gets a job when da man gonna pay for everything! u peeple who work every day not 2 smart.
Buzz Lightyear, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 am
It's not called laziness. It might be in a some cases. But most people want to work. It's frustrating to see people believe that those stuck in the lower SES classes and can't find work just don't want to work. I'm around this community every week and they want to work. They haven't had the same opportunities that the middle class has. It's even hard to get a job at McDonald's when you have no transportation, no permanent housing.
I real attitude switch towards these the oppressed and hurting would do wonders...
Stephen, Tulsa - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:41 am
Its called laziness. ALot of these families are lazy, thats just a fact. Get of your tails and get a job and close your legs because kids cost money, money you dont have.
Chris - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:26 am
I know someone who teaches at an OKC school, and EVERY kid is on the free lunch program because they are "poor". Funny how the parents that pick them up are driving Escalades, Tahoes, Mercedes and now new cars they just had to get with the cash for clunkers. But hey, why not buy a new car when everyone else is paying to feed your f'n kid? Oh yeah, and they don't pay for school supplies either. Oh yeah, they get free breakfast at the school too. I could get a nice new car if everyone else would pay to feed my kid too. This government assistance crap is getting ridiculous.
Dennis, Edmond - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:25 am
I don't think anyone realizes how hard it is to actually apply for assistance. Not to mention the humiliation.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:13 am
I've got news for all of you right wingers. When a man is out of work and can't find a job, any form of government looks good. Communism, socialism, capitalism or anything else. When you have nothing, the form of government doesn't matter.
The United States is an armed society. Things can change really fast if the leaders keep ignoring the needs of the masses. I have never known anyone in my life who wanted to be on public assistance. A good paying job can not be beat.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:11 am
Teamless: The "have-nots" are now outnumbering the "haves" because people are still losing their jobs. It has nothing to do with "breeding" because (obviously) a baby can't vote.
As far as work incentives are concerned - what exactly do you mean by that?
Sure, I agree that food stamp benefits should be capped. But guess what? Grocers LOVE food stamps. Food stamps mean that big businesses (grocers, suppliers, wholesalers etc.) make that extra dollar. Do you really think they DON'T have lobbyists out there?

Also, socialists would not be for separation of social classes. Socialists believe that everyone should be monetarily equal.
Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:07 am
Kenneth, since you get to dictate where our private donations go, where should my tithe go this month? Also, you don't know how much Hobby Lobby gives to other charitable organizations. They are a privately held company. Where their money goes is of no concern to you.
Craig, OKC - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:07 am
Where are all of those big right to work supporters? Right to work was going to bring so much industry to Oklahoma. Where is it?
It's like the Bush tax cuts. Bush said we're going to cut taxes and that will create jobs. Really. We cut taxes and have the biggest recession since the Great Depression. Where did all that money go? What happened? I though when we liberated Iraq at a cost of 600 billion dollars, it was going to pay us back in oil sales. What happened? The average worker out here in Okieland doesn't make the rules, he just lives by them. He can train for a job and go to work, but when the jobs disappear, the government has to be there for it's citizens. The government is only there for corporate America.

It is cheaper for the government to just feed people and write them a check than it is to teach them how to find work and sustain a good life style.

The next time some politician comes along and says they are going to outlaw your right to bargain for something, look out.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:07 am
Teamless, are you speaking of corporate welfare?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 9:01 am
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish...

Welfare / food stamps are intended to be a stop-gap measure but, in most cases, it turns into a way of life. Why should I get off my azz and work for more money when I can collect enough to eat by doing nothing? This scenario will turn an otherwise decent man into a sponge on society. Public assistance MUST be short term, not allowed to permeate generation to generation. Not to mention that once these people breed enough on free food, they can become politically viable. Once they influence Socialist thinking (libs) people to also vote their way, they can elect a Socialist president. The nation is really in the shitter at this point as incentive to work erodes and the "haves" are eventually outnumbered by the "have-nots".
Teamless, In Seattle - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:45 am
The real reason why the middle class is downsizing: the wage hike from 5.15 to 7.25.

I was doing just fine before they raised minimum wage. Now everything costs more. I was doing so well before that I could finally afford to put more money into savings. After the wage hike was complete - my groceries were costing $50 more and my utilities went up.

Now, I am a single parent. I have two kids. I take care of my sick Mother. We do receive child support but it pales in comparison to the cost of living. Once upon a time I had to use child care assistance. I'm what DHS calls a success story. In fact, they wanted to use me as an "example." I (obviously) turned it down. But, you can't tell me that EVERYONE lives off the system.

Jackie: I completely agree. I get so angry watching people buy ICEEs and burritos at 7-11 with their food stamp card. I think that food stamps should only buy healthy, "from scratch" food.

Rachel, Midwest City - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:45 am
It's good to know that according to recent reports, as usual, the rich got richer last year, the poor got more poor, and the middle class shrunk again. Don't forget to vote 'yes' on the next MAPS project, as Aubrey and the boys aren't quite rich enough yet...
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:35 am
I think one of the biggest problems is that people don't cook "from scratch" anymore. They rely on instant or prepackaged foods which are more expensive. Buy a whole chicken and learn to cut it up instead of buying pieces. And you can make a pound of hamburger go a long way in a casserole. Beans are a good source of protein and are still pretty cheap. Maybe the government should be handing out cookbooks with the food stamps. Stop being so lazy and learn to be resourceful. And maybe your children will learn to care for themselves when they grow up and not rely on the government to feed them.
Jackie, moore - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:33 am
So with this in mind lets all vote yes on MAPS 3 to which again leaves out the kids in school and supports the rich like Devon and Chesapeake. But hey it got our Mayor Mick Corrnet a good job with the leading marketing firm in the OKC area/City projects. Paul; the state legislature should take the money they give big businesses for breakfast and lunch for the school kids so at the very least the kids have two good meals a day. All we can do is pray that our leaders will turn away form self-righteousness and read the Bible and follow Jesus Christ
Rick , Oklahoma City - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:33 am
Some people have been on public assistance ever since public assistance was invented. Lets take the Smith family (names changed to protect their privacy). The Smith elders immigrated to McAlester from Italy to work in the coal mines. When the mines dried up in the 40's they went on public assistance. They had children in the 30's who went right to public assistance and have never held a job to today. Their grandkids were born in the 50's and those kids went on public assistance and are on it today. The great grandkids were born in the 70's are all those kids are all on public assistance today. The great-great grandkids were born in the 90's are all of them are on public assistance today. In fact, Mr. Stipe's law firm researched their case and found that several had missed getting all the benefits that are due residents of SEOK and he got them $124,000 in back assistance checks. They built a new home near Lake McAlester in the middle of what is otherwise a junk yard. So here you have basically a PCB dumping and copper melting junk yard and a brand new $120,000 home. Go figure that one. But the case is simple, once your decide to put your family on the welfare program, you most likely will stay on it for eternity like the Smith family has basically done after immigrating from Italy.
John, Stigler - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:20 am
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I hope the guy at Hobby Lobby is happy with throwing his millions to Oral Roberts and I hope he is reading this...
His money could have went so much farther at the Jesus House.
Instead it will be paying for Golf Shoes Golden Toilets and Air conditioned dog houses.
Nice choice Mr. Green.
kenneth, apo - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:06 am
looks like someone got out of bed on the wrong side AGAIN..... good morning sunshine!
Leasa, Norman - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:06 am
I lost my job...what did I do...I got off my ass and found a new one. The opportunities are out there these stupid okies are too dumb to take advantage of them. Louis you are correct.
Jason, Tulsa - Sep 29, 2009 at 8:05 am
"people should start waiting to have kids until they can support them."---With the highest teen pregnancy rate in the nation, most okies have kids even before they think about having a job....typical 3rd world nation behavior.....

paul, yukon - Sep 29, 2009 at 7:46 am
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Yeah, Louis, because nobody ever lost a job after they had kids.
Maria - Sep 29, 2009 at 7:42 am
I have a solution.....people should start waiting to have kids until they can support them.
Louis Friend, Norman - Sep 29, 2009 at 7:40 am
"Dell which has laid off most of those workers any how."--And I'll bet the state legislature hasn't "laid off" those big fat tax breaks Dell got for coming here, did they?

Just more okieland ineptitude at it's finest......

paul, yukon - Sep 29, 2009 at 7:07 am
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We see what right to work brings us, Dell which has laid off most of those workers any how. Where are all those wonderful jobs it was supposed to usher in? Im not so big on unions anymore however, right to work had minimal impact other than for the construction business which used lots of illegals.
Terry, Norman - Sep 29, 2009 at 6:41 am
Yep, another article with evidence about how "recession proof" this state is.

Strange, other states that are supposedly belted by this recession aren't turning in high percentages of food stamp/welfare/medicaid dependency like okieland is...why is that??

Isn't it also VERY strange that okieland touts it's "low unemployment", but okies have so much dependency on government handouts?

When are you okies going to admit this is less than a "living paycheck to paycheck" state??
paul, yukon - Sep 29, 2009 at 4:42 am
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