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Texas’ Brown gets no love from Big 12 coaches
Longhorns’ boss deserved coach of the year votes

By Berry Tramel
Published: December 4, 2008

The Big 12 coaches selected their all-conference football team this week and picked various award winners.

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In keeping with the nature of this Big 12 season in which three teams tied for the South title and two teams tied for the North, the coaches split their coach of the year award.

Mack Brown did not make the cut.

OU’s Bob Stoops and Texas Tech’s Mike Leach were co-coaches of the year. How can that be?

What’s the possible justification for omitting Brown, who coached Texas to not just a three-way share of the South but to the No. 3 rating in the current BCS?

I can see Leach. I can Mike Gundy. But how could anyone possibly vote Stoops ahead of Brown as coach of the year?

Texas in preseason was picked second in the South but was considered much closer to the rest of the pack than it was to heavy-favorite Oklahoma. The Longhorns were No. 11 in the AP poll, behind OU and Missouri and one spot above Tech.

And UT came within a whisker of a 12-0 season.

2008 was a tremendous coaching job by Brown and his staff.

Check out the coaches’ all-Big 12 team. Nine Sooners on first team. Four Longhorns. And yet Texas beat OU 45-35 and ended up in the notorious three-way tie.

What were the Big 12 coaches thinking?

Was it retribution for Brown’s recent politicking?

Remember, three Big 12 head coaches are former Stoops lieutenants, only one (Iowa State’s Gene Chizik) is a ex-Brown aide.

Was it punishment for Brown’s possum act in July, when he played up the underdog role?

Either way, the vote was wrong. Maybe there should be a tie for the Big 12’s coach of the year award, but no way should Mack Brown be anywhere but at the top of the list.


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Makes you wonder where all the OU fans were right after the Texas loss. They sure werent here talking about "Their" Sooners were they? Guess they forget back then.
Tom, bethany - Dec 10, 2008 at 7:38 pm
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Admittedly I am a Longhorn alumni & fan. Thanks for giving Mack the cudos he deserves this year. It is perhaps his best coaching year at UT. He unexpectedly lost superstar TE Jermichael Finley & superstar tailback Jamaal Charles to the NFL. Then he lost his next two tight ends to injuries before the season started. UT started the season ranked 11th in the nation compared to OU's 4th. Mack had to create a new offensive scheme without a tight end. Still, with an unbelievable Colt McCoy they managed to beat OU by 10 points. OU led at half time and frankly Mack and company outcoached Stoops at half time. They lost in the last second of the TT game in Lubbock, something Coach Stoops & Sooner fans are more than familiar with. If not for a dropped tip ball by a true freshman safety in Lubbock, UT would be undefeated. I might add that UT started 2 freshmen at safeties and their backups are also freshmen. They will graduate only one offensive lineman this season. OU won the computer polls and advanced to the Big XII championship game because Missouri lost to Kansas and dropped below TCU and Cincinnati in the BCS rankings, thus giving OU the computer SOS advantage. Stoops is a really good coach, but Mack was more deserving this year. This just sheds a light on the prejudices and ignorance that goes on in these votes. Mike Leach? Well, he took Tech where they've never been before and I can't disagree with that vote.
David, Missouri City - Dec 6, 2008 at 12:09 am
You are obviously an OSU fan and not OU, therefore; your opinion means nothing to MOST Oklahomans.
Carol, Oklahoma City - Dec 5, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Tramel baby, I will say this . . " you certainly know how to stir the pot of controversy". But then that's really what it's all about, huh. Can't believe the number of posts. Stoops is hands down the better coach.
Joe, Kingston - Dec 5, 2008 at 3:28 pm
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Who appointed Tramel as the Football God to decide who's right or wrong?
Jack, Duncan - Dec 5, 2008 at 2:38 pm
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John, Dallas, the only people that call Oklahoma CHokelahoma is you envious homers down in Texas. No go back to your doublewide and get ready your cheese and whine ready so you can watch OU win the B12 and then the National Championship. Coach Meade, you are a first class idiot. What do you coach, little league basketweaving? You personally knew TT was going to be good? Give me a break. You couldn't recognize talent if it was in front of your face. And sticking up for Jenni Carlson, that lady screams for abuse. Its what she lives for.
Bobby, Oklahoma City - Dec 5, 2008 at 8:02 am
(B) oomer (C) hampionship (S) ooner!!!!
rob, wagoner - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:49 pm
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YOU have to remember that Trammels statement is just an opinion.Its how you rate a "wish I was a real sports writer'"
david, blackwell - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Berry is a good man. I've never know him to be anti-OU. I wish we had him up here in T Town!
Jeff, Tulsa - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:56 pm
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Yea Trammel is a Texas fan. oh brother, what will you guys come up with next John, OKC
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Why doesn't Trammel move to Texas? He has obviously been for the Longhorns throughout this whole ordeal...
Cathy, Wimberley - Dec 4, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Leach should have won hands down.... Brown second, Stoops third... OU semi accomplished what was expected, Preseason no one expected Tech to end up in a tie for the 12 South, preseason everyone predicted Texas to be in a rebuilding mode.
Austin, Shawnee - Dec 4, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Leach easily...best team out of Lubbock in the last decade.
Gary, Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 8:23 pm
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what were the first four tie-breakers and were they any other after number 5?
James , Poteau - Dec 4, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Leach, all the way.
Ken, Boise - Dec 4, 2008 at 4:39 pm
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I'd vote Leach or Gundy. They did more with less this year. Stoops maybe because of all the injuries they have had to deal with. Whether or not you agree on how Brown handled the last week, he is a class act and a statesman of the game of college football. Yes, I'm still pissed he left for UNC before the UW Orange Bowl that may have cost us a title, just like Mike Stoops leaving before the LSU game. However, that does not diminish his stature in the game today. Going out to El Paso to play was a brilliant PR move (even though it cost him in the BCS). Nobody is talking about that. In the end, everybody is looking to get their team in the best possible spot. Can we now stop the BS and get ready for Mizzou?
Fred, Edmond - Dec 4, 2008 at 4:15 pm
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BTW in 2005 I was pulling for the Texas Longhorns against USC,I just wanted respect for BIG 12 FOOTBALL if my SOONERS couldnt do it then I didnt care which Big 12 Team did it just as long as the NationalChamp was from Our Confrence. BOOMER SOONERS!!! OooooooooooUuu!
MICHAEL, Dallas - Dec 4, 2008 at 3:24 pm
All these Texas Longhorn lovers crying because Mack B. didnt get picked for Big 12 Coach of the Year...Ok I think they have a legitimate gripe....Whine-On then! infact I'd say that ONLY in this aspect of college football the BCS should come into play....computers,coaches voting for themselves or the other is cool with me..I'd settle for that type of voting system in the college football and perhaps with all these Orangeblood Faithful & MacWhine Brown making all this noise then maybe a Real Play-off System will come into play next season till then keep in mind Texas Tech BEAT THE LONGHORNS why should Texas go to the dance and not the Red Raiders If OoooooooUuu didnt win-out?Now be sure to have that plane fly over the Big 12 Championship game reminding everyone of the OU/TX score in Dallas...maybe Mack Brown can get another interview during the game and if OU loses then the Horns are in without even playing for the Big12Championship and once again OU wouldve helped the Horns out for a second time this season.Im suprised Texas fans arent blasting the Missouri Tigers for having Texas Talent on their roster too..whats the deal? BIG12FOOTBALL GO SOONERS!!!
MICHAEL, Dallas - Dec 4, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Remember OU v TX 2008? Here is what stands out: 2 clipping no calls on the TX kick return for TD; One no call for OU TD denying interception; and at least 3 personal foul 15 yard penalties against OU for looking cross at Colt. Mack Brown is the biggest cry baby for penalties (KS fans will remember the Freeman Johns call against KU when they were about to put Vince Young and UT in the loss column). This debacle is poetic justice for crybaby longhorn fans, coaches & players.
Scoresby, norman - Dec 4, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I too am a life-long (45 years) fan of OU. Berry called it right, Mack Brown did an excellent job this year and I don't feel bad about the politics he demonstrated. If you get at the truth of what he did/said, it wasn't off the mark. His teams did the things he spoke of, in a head to head they beat us. He did not orchestrate, plan, pay for that stupid airplane advertisement. He actually told his team to get over it, this was our system, we all live by it and there is next year. Yes Mack should have been there for co-coach of the year awards with with Bob and Mike. Watch the NC game, if we continue the trend and defeat Missouri, Mack will be cheering OU on. All this silly stuff making stupid comments about the other coaches, players, teams, is not proof that you are a fan. YOu should ignore stupid, bating (media & goofy fans) statements and be a representative of the great tradition of all the coaches and players for OU. Help bring credibility and nobility to the 2008 Sooners - be of good cheer. Go Sooner's!!! Win it all!! william, Tulsa - Dec 4, 2008 7:24 AM Now there's a Sooner I can pull for come January.
colby, ardmore - Dec 4, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Are we sure the OU fans on this board aren't doing more whining than they claim Mack Brown did? To my knowledge he did call anyone any names or talk down about anyone. He just made the case for his team. Funny OU fans are the only ones saying these things.
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Boy, I guess we know where Barry's loyalty lies! kim, miami - Dec 4, 2008 2:26 PM Report as inappropriate btw, Kim, you numpty, Barry's loyalty is, hopefully, always with objectivity, not the sooner athletic department. He's not an OU publicist, sweetheart.
colby, ardmore - Dec 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Sooner fans are hilarious. You've been whining about Texas whining for the last week. Trammel tries to put forth his agreement with a popular opinion outside of Norman and Sooner fans call it treason, call Mack an 'ass hat', and my favorite, make 'would you like some cheese with that whine?' jokes. 10 on the originality scale. Good work. You lot are so thin-skinned and easy to wind up.
colby, ardmore - Dec 4, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Big Mac Brown. How we've grown tired of hearing his name. I don't care that he can't afford to buy his wife a new Lincoln. That's what happens when you don't win the conference championship. Your staff can't go on vacations to the south of France or world cruises. It's a tuff life for the Pronghorn Sheep Staff.
mark, oklahoma city - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:56 pm
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Stoops & Leach got the gold mine, Mike Gundy got the shaft... After the year OSU had how could he have been left out?
Jim, Taylor - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:54 pm
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I LIKE TRAM.not scared to piss off whoever.....sometimes he over the top not always.......11-1 for tech makes leach the coach of the year not for the loss against my sooners ,,,,but for his win ,especially , for the SECOND HALF AGAINST BAYLOR......11-1 in lubbock is almost as hard as finding oil on the moon....good job Gundy
eric, OKLAHOMA ,city - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:48 pm
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How can a vote be wrong, Berry? If it's what the other coaches think, then how can their opinions be "wrong"? It's not some objective evaluation -- it can't be. It's all subjective. It's as subjective as my opinion of your column (which may be different from yours, but it isn't "wrong").
Michael, Norman - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:44 pm
KANSAS, NEBRASKA, AND TEXAS TECH......ALL FORMER SOONERS,,,,THATS WHAT DID IT
eric, OKLAHOMA ,city - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:34 pm
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Boy, I guess we know where Barry's loyalty lies!
kim, miami - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:26 pm
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Nine times out of ten I would agree with what Trammel writes, but man you missed the head of the nail this time! Brown got no love probably for the on air interview he had with shrubstreit and turdburger during the OU/OSU game... Completely classless! Tough break Mac maybe you can cry or whine your way into a trophy next year!
David, Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Texas will be vindicated if not this weekend then in the BCS NCG when they choke away another BCS NCG.I guess coaches writers will never learn there leasson with these guys.They dont call them Chokelahoma for nothing.
John, Dallas - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:08 pm
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Brown gets no love because he shows no respect.
Jeffrey, Austin - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Coach Meade youre an idiot. I hope youre not really a coach and in charge of educating our youth.
Michael, Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Wow, there's alot of OU fans whose biases seem to be getting in the way of reading comprehension. Bob Stoops had a much more veteran club than Mack Brown. The point is that, given that, he did a better coaching job (given his talent) than he is given credit for. Classless?? Sure, he was playing the political game that is now required in the BCS, but he's got much more class and humility than Bob Stoops. Anyone who has any objectiveness at all can't possibly believe that Bob Stoops isn't MUCH more arrogant and obnoxious than Mack Brown.
Nathan, Broken Bow - Dec 4, 2008 at 2:05 pm
It is because coaches know talent a heel alot better than sportwriters. Anyone who knows football can see that the Sooners are one of the most talented offenses in the history of college football. I am starting to notice that it is only ut fans and sportwriters crying that ut got jobbed. They were soundly beaten by tech until they made a fourth quarter comeback that they couldn't finish(lack of talent?). While they did play OU and beat them, I still go back to those drives that were sustained by McCoy falling down out of bounds and OU getting late hit calls. And I still think we intercepted the pass in the end zone. So Tram and t-sippers stop you whining. YOU LOST TO TEXAS TECH!
Mike, Corpus Christi - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:56 pm
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Mack Brown has become the Chase Daniel of college football...enough said! Boomer Sooner
Jacob, Sherman - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm
This just posted on the ESPN web site... Mack Brown has stunned everyone by accepting the head coaching job at small Napa Valley College. When asked why he would leave Austin for Napa, Coach Brown replied "It's perfect for me. It's in the middle of whine... I mean WINE country."
John, Yukon - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:51 pm
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Tramel there is a bed for you down at Norman in the insane hospital. The award should have went to Mike Gunday or Mike Leach. But to say Brown deserves it is insane. Brown has no class. He is always complaining. He nearly lost at home to OSU. Stoops went to Stillwater and won by 20. He won many games this year without players that would have made a vast difference. OU was ahead when Reynolds got hurt during the Texas game. I am an OU fan and dislike OSU more than anyone does. But OSU did a lot better than I or anyone thought they could. I personally knew Texas Tech would be good. Maybe Gundy didn't win becasue he is 41 and a man!!!!!!! He should have never put Jenni down last year. Oh well....Go Sooners!!!!! Coach Meade
Terry, Mesquite - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Berry, you've got to be kidding. Mack Brown is one of the most classless coaches around and doesn't deserve to be considered for this award. If anything, Coach Gundy should be ahead of him along with Stoops and Leach.
Don, Duncan - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:46 pm
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Like all awards, the winners claim most of the glory. That means that coaches with lesser talent on their teams need not apply. At the beginning of the year, OU was pretty much a unanimous choice to win and probably go undefeated. By losing, they actually underachieved. UT no doubt overachieved. But I would not ever give a coach of the year award to coaches with the kind of talent to spare that OU and UT have every year. It should to to someone that takes the lesser talented players he's been dealt and does something kind of special. Last year, that was clearly Mangino. This season, you could make a case for Leach, although even in pre-season Tech was ranked in the top 10 and known to have the best team they've had in the Leach era, with a much improved defense and running game. But I think the job Gundy did at OSU, unranked and widely expected to simply repeat another 6-6 season by most "experts", was the best actual coaching job this year. Literally NO ONE was predicting that OSU would beat MU or even CU (both on the road). And most preseason predictions even had them losing to aTm (before their Ark St game, of course). They turned out not to be just a little better than that, but a WHOLE lot better. Lost to #1, 2, and 3 teams, and beat a #3. And only the Tech game was not a competitive effort. That, my friends, is a coach-of-the-year performance by Gundy. But as I said, the league champs reap the rewards. If you're not undefeated or 11-1, you aren't in the running, which is a shame. But top to bottom, I think the Big-12 has the best collection of coaching talent I've ever seen in one conference.
Bob, Signal Hill - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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"BABY MACK"; you whining and crying didn't do you any good!!!! All it did was piss off a lot of people. You and your team ain't got nothing coming. You didn't take care of business and win in Lubbock!!!!! So now you are like the other one loss teams and have to have help from others. I used to root for TexASSS in their non-conference games. No more. By the way, your friend Randy Cristal (who lives in Austin) was not allowed to ref in your loss to TTU (although he did ref in two of your wins this year including Missouri). Pleas ESPN/ABC don't have BABY MACK on your telecast of the Big 12 Championship because if you do I will vomit!!!! Mack Brown; YOU MAKE ME SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xavier, Benson - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Maybe it should be a 3-way tie...like everything else in the south.
Joe, Houston - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:35 pm
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You know what? When Mack Brown can win a big game without the other team getting screwed consistently by the refs or taking cheap shots to knock star players out of the game...come talk to me about what a great coach he is...
Jason, Norman - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:31 pm
You know, when Mack Brown learns how to work the game clock at the end of the game (giving TTU the ball with over a minute is a dumb thing to do, and it cost them EVERYTHING this season), come talk to me about what a great coach he is...
Jason, Norman - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:28 pm
You know what, when Mack Brown can do something other than build a team consisting of one super-talented QB, come talk to me about what a great coach he is...
Jason, Norman - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:25 pm
In the over "body of work" for the entire season category as a coach Mack's classless begging and pandering is part of the coachs season. And yes I do suspect there was disgust by some voters regarding his conduct. It seems to me that is a valid part of equation. Why don't you agree? For additional insight look at how the coaching community withheld many awards from Barry Switzer for years over matters which had nothing to do with the game day performance of his teams.
David, Denver - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Mack Brown is a classless asshat.
Jonathon, Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Why would anyone want to bestow the honor of Coach of The Year on a man who acted so dishonorably with his pathetic groveling and politicking? If you have to politick that hard to win an award or sway voters, perhaps you know already you don't deserve it in the first place. Mack, move to some other conference where a lack of class will flourish.
Michael, Yukon - Dec 4, 2008 at 1:02 pm
As I wrote elsewhere, it's Karma, Brown runs his mouth politicking and it comes back to bite him. There's class, and then there's no class. Stoops and Leach have class as do most of the rest of the Big 12 coaches. In my book Mike Leach is the most deserving this year.
Earl, Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 12:50 pm
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Mike Leach way overachieved. He should have got it.
A, mustang - Dec 4, 2008 at 12:38 pm
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Berry Tramel is a joke all he does is look for things to try to talk down coach stoops .mack brown did'nt get coach of the year because the other coaches know what kind of fraud he is.so mr.Berry Tramel your opinion doesen't matter
tim, allen - Dec 4, 2008 at 12:27 pm
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Maybe Brown lost favor with the other coaches by his groveling the last two weeks, climaxed by the interview during the OU/OSU game. Really, they guy slapped Texas Tech's face completely ignoring their accomplishments and saying it 'didn't count', he tried to discount the fact that OU smoked the team that beat his team and that OU is very much stronger than they were. Brown, while appearing to do his team a favor and stand behind them, did nothing more than make it clear he doesn't have faith in his own team. That's not a good coach.
c, yukon - Dec 4, 2008 at 12:19 pm
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I think the main reason Mac didn't make the list was because he was "interviewed" during the OU-OSU game and allowed to whine for UT to be in the championship. Something Stoops declined to do during the UT-A&M game. I guess having some class counts.
Ken, McAlester - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:48 am
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As an avid OU fan, I think I would have voted for Leach. TT had a great season. I might have included Gundy for OSU's great year but it's too soon after his "I'm a man" video. That thing will haunt him for years. As mentioned earlier, Stoops is a great coach but he did what was expected. GO SOONERS -- finish the season for the conference and national championships as well as the Heisman.
Ken, McAlester - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:36 am
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Yea garry, nobody else had injuries John, OKC
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Why is Stoops blamed for having so much talent? If they do good, it's because of all the talent. If they did bad, it would be "How could he do bad with all that talent?" I'd think part of the coaching would be how well he did recruiting, and then molding the recruits into the top talent they are. He and Leach both did what was expected this year; Gundy did more than was expected. But what about Baylor? It seemed like they did much better than anyone expected.
Scott, El Reno - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:28 am
Could it be that Stoops had to deal with some adversities, namely loosing Reynolds and English, and now Box, yet was still able to come up with some impressive wins??
Garry, Shawnee - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:22 am
D. And who asked your opinion? FYI I am from Oklahoma, but thank God not OKC.
Jim, Rockwall - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:20 am
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Jim, Rockwall - Dec 4, 2008 11:15 AM Spoken like just another dumb Texan
D, Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:18 am
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Mack, you are dumber than dirt...every coach makes calls that work and calls that don't work. You have to look at the entire year...the entire body of work. You're not the kind of OSU fan we need...you obviously don't know anything about the game.
Jim, Rockwall - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:17 am
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No way Stoops is coach of the year...whar a travesty. Gundy, Leach, Pelini and Briles did MUCH better jobs. Not that Stoops didn't do a great job, but his talent bin is full and his team did as expected. Coach of the year should go to a deserving person whose abilities contributed more than his players other than the ability to get the most out of them. This is a travesty and a joke. Those who voted for Stoops should be ashamed. Because of this vote, the award means virtually nothing other than a popularity contest or the guy with the most marbles in the game. I was completely shocked to see him get this honor. just proves the old adage, "Them that gots is them that gets."
Jim, Rockwall - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:15 am
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David in Moore. You really are looking through OU glasses. Yes in the rare instance stoops thinks it is a players fault he does yell at them. But he spends nearly the entire rest of the game screaming at refs and acting like he is going to throw his headset down. I am really not trying to flame, just pointing out that he has some less than redeeming qualities of his own. Some are bugged by "clappers" others are bugged by those who whine about every call.
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I agree with Berry, I am an OSU fan and don't think Gundy deserves it. He screwed up too many times. Bad Calls and too dumb to know it. Mack should be in there, not Bob Stoops who was expected to win it.
Mack - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:10 am
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Yes, it was retribution. No one likes it when people whine, not even coaches. It probably made coaches mad to see Tech dismissed for its win over UT, yet UT claimed head-to-head (tired of hearing that, gag me with a spoon). Once again, there' no head-to-head in a 3 way tie. Simple mathematics head = 1, therefore head + head = 2. 3 way tie, head + head + head = 3. I'm sure math is the same in Texas as it is in the rest of the country, isn't it?
J.T.(I), Norman - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:08 am
Count me as another OU fan who thinks Gundy should have won it. He did a great job this year!
cindy, edmond - Dec 4, 2008 at 11:04 am
Gundy should win (and, I am an avid OU fan) then Stoops and Leach (they did Great, but still gotta give Gundy credit) then the Baylor guy (he will build off this years limited success) But, NO BIG MACK on my ballot. Berry, whats with the Mack stuff?
D, Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:56 am
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"I am an Avid OU fan but I think OSU's (Gundy) should have won it, my second choice would have been Tech's (Leach). Mack Brown would have been fourth on my list after Baylor's (Briles)." That would have been my vote too, and I too am an avid OU fan. I don't know why Gundy got left out of that equation.
Jill, www.okcthunderfans.com - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:54 am
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As a die-hard OU fan and season ticket holder I still think Mike Gundy of O-State should have been Big 12 Coach of the Year. However, if the shoe was on the other foot, how many O-State fans would vote for Stoops? None, they hate us. At Norman when OSU scores are announced and they are ahead I have heard the fans cheer. Never will happen at Stillwater. They root for OSU and whoever OU is playing.
Richard, Beaver - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:52 am
I agree with John. Forget Brown. I'm pretty sure everyone expected Texas to finish 11-1 or 10-2, but who thought the Cowboys would finish 9-3 with chances to beat both Texas AND Oklahoma? The only time this season the Cowboys weren't in the game was Tech. Gundy was the clear leader to me. Pelini might have been second. The way he finished in his first year was really good...AND he had a signature moment, taking Tech to OT in Lubbock. I can agree with Leach, but a lot of people even expected him to be as good as we was this year. They were even my darkhorse to win the Big 12 and they came close. I figured it'd be another 6-6 or 7-5 season for OSU and maybe worse for Nebraska. So, Gundy and Pelini would have been my selections.
Zach, Perkins - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:37 am
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Well opinions are like "A**Holes", everybody has one! I am an Avid OU fan but I think OSU's (Gundy) should have won it, my second choice would have been Tech's (Leach). Mack Brown would have been fourth on my list after Baylor's (Briles). Mack will make sure the 45-35 posters will appear in the '09 cotton bowl game, you can bet on it!
Billy, Paris - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:36 am
Yeah Chris from Jones, you're right! I saw this clip on youtube of Stoops going bezerk because this reporter from the Oklahoman accused him of being a 29 year old woman.... Oh wait, I think I am thinking of someone else.... hmmm
m., Oklahoma City - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:31 am
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I think Stoops gets the nod for adding the no-huddle offense to his scheme. They have been running the no-huddle like they have been running it for 10 years, not just the first year.
Jeff, Moore - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:29 am
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OK, I am a huge OU fan. But to me, the obvious choice for coach of the year is Mike Gundy of OSU. Even though his team finished 4th again in the Big XII South, his team's record improved substantially from last year. As much as I love Bob Stoops, his team performed pretty much as people expected them to.
John, Yukon - Dec 4, 2008 at 10:29 am
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John, have you ever watched him react to a call the refs make when OU deserved it. He jumps the player, not the ref. Which is what a coach is s