Can not win when you can't control the clock. (no running game, big margin in time of possesion) OU defense was on the field way to much.

Kevin, thats if you dont have control of the ball and watch it again, HE HAD 2 STEPS AND THE GROUND CANT CAUSE A FUMBLE.stick, YOU CANT EVEN PLAY WITH CLASS...

It was an interception, he hit the ground with his feet and knees, play over. The subsequent tackle and hitting the ground was irrelevant, otherwise, a player who catches a pass in the endzone is fair game to get pounded and thrown to the ground in order to pop the ball lose. Ridiculous!
Also, the two penalties on Lewis for hitting Colt were absurd, especially when you look at the time Bradford got pasted after he was out of bounds in the first half and Broyles got smashed out of bounds towards the end of the fourth quarter. Neither of those late hits out of bounds were questionable, but they were not called.
Also, our last two meaningful drives in the fourth quarter when we were down by 3 were snuffed out by very obvious pass interference on Iglesias and Gresham which weren't called. The ball was in the air on both occassions and the Texas backs were on their backs long before the ball got there. They called us for intereference twice before in the game so they know what it looks like! It is such obvious bias. Those guys need to go on the same scrap heap as Gordon Reece and the Pac 10 refs.

THE GROUND CANT CAUSE A FUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!! THE INTERCEPTION WAS GOOD. HE HAD POSSESSION, HAD TWO STEPS AND HIT THE GROUND @ WICH POINT HE WAS DOWN. AND THE LATE HITS , IF ANYTHING HE WAS TRYING TO HOLD HIM UP. BAD REFFING, I ADMIT OU SHOULD HAVE PLAYED BETTER BUT WE CAME TO PLAY TEXAS NOT THE REFFS. WHOEVER WROTE THIS REVIEW SOUNDS LIKE A texas FAN To ME

I'd be interested to know if ANY of these comments on this website have come from anyone who is an actual official and knows the rules? I am a licensed football official....and I know that we can only call what we see....so there shouldn't be all this crying "he was holding" stuff. The refs just may not be able to see everything. Also, there has to be good judgement used on calls.....not all are "black-n-white". I saw on replay that Robinson had 2 feet and then a knee down before his body hit the turf and jarred the ball loose. I would've called that a touchback because he came to the ground with possession....it wasn't until he rolled over that he lost it. But the official on the field was not in the best position. Then again.....the replay booth official was and should've overturned that play.
And the judgement on the late hits were questionable. I've had to make some of those tough calls myself with opposing coaches trying to influence me.....but you have to see the whole play and judge the intent. OU player was 'trying to pull up' and even hold him up.....should've been no flag.

It looked like an interception to me - he had possession until he hit the ground and which point he was down. If the Texas receiver had caught that ball the same way - the refs would have called it a touchdown - NO DOUBT.

Loadhold should have been taken out of the game early - he was holding because the Texas guy was too fast. He either held or got burned every play - bad move coaches. On the other hand, there was a major clip on Texas's touchdown return??? There where many missed calls that were game changers. The officials should forfeit their checks on this game - bad job. Texas played well, and outcoached us anyway. Losing one person on defense is no excuse, if we are not deep we will not win the big games. The last few seasons have proven this over and over. We got lucky in 2000 - I don't remember anyone getting seriously hurt that year - and we won. Where is OU's running game? third down and two - lets run it 2 plays in a row if needed. Don't kick on fourth and 2 when we are behind. I disagree. Bradford played great. but we need a running game.

Barry, you forgot all the no calls for holding that the uo o-line committed on every play. They should rename him Loadhold for his perfected technique. The ou coaches have taught holding at uo as an o-line technique. Then they leave it up to the officials to make the calls. Of course, the Big 12 officials don't make the calls (uo coaches know this), so uo has an advantage during conference play. But then, uo gets caught during bowl games and such when the officials come from other conferences. uo doesn't know how (can't) adjust and gets caught with their pants down on just about every play. See the Fiesta Bowl last year.

It will not be shown by the big twelve, but these refs will be scolded by there own and will loose a bowl game as punitive damages.
There was also a game changing hold on the 62 yard run by Texas on thier last touchdown. OU should have been able to overcome the refs we usually do.

barry-bottom line dude, that was an interception. He had possession of the ball, wasn't bobbling, and two feet down, the ground caused the ball to come out, interception, I watched the super slow replay over and over but evidently you did not, get a clue. Sorry to burst your bubble but OU will rebound from this much to your dismay.

All of the studio experts on the various sports stations (ESPN, CBS, ABC, ESPNu, etc.) seem to think Lamont Robinson's interception was good. The explained the rules and why it should have been. Robinson took control of the ball, two feet step onto the ground he falls still with control of the ball and then the ball falls out. By rule this is an interception. So, you missed that one Tramel.

OU would have probably lost anyway because there is no rule that says if OU DOES make an interception then Brent Venables has to stop coaching.

Kevin, that is exactly what happened. Thanks for getting the official rule. You have to come to the ground with control of the ball.

Sorry OU. You just got beat by a better team on that day.

The interception that wasn't? UT only got a field goal!! That was not a game changer!! LOSERS!!! Get over it, you were beat by a better team!! Learn to lose with class!! Guess that's impossible, as you can't win with class either!!

Biggest bunch of whiny-a s crybaby's i've ever seen in here!! Refs cost ya the game, huh? How about the Texas run game, or the failure of your vaunted defense to stop anything Colt tried? How about only rushing for 46 yards? THAT'S what lost you the game, MORONS!!

I went back and looked in the NCAA rulebook:

Article 7, c, 2 (page 42 of http://www.sccfoa.org/docs/2007_NCAA_Rules.pdf for those who want to look):

"Loss of ball simultaneous to returning to the ground is not a catch,
interception or recovery."

So while the rule may not be the best, I believe on review that he lost the ball as he hit the ground. So I guess the refs and Tramel are right...

Jim, the defintion in this regard to consulate is, "The office, term of office, or jurisdiction of a consul. Furthermore," A consul, "Either of the two chief magistrates of the Roman Republic, elected for a term of one year." Berry seems to think that he has Julius Caesar like powers of comprehension when it comes to OU football, where as in reality he time and gain displays imbecilic logic.

Berry, I see several people can't spell your name. And Terry in Duncan, what does "consulate" mean? P.S. Berry was right about the second call. You can't even touch a player if he's already out of bounds.

None of this matters if the Offensive line does their job, and somebody had actually tried to cover Shipley. No shame in losing to a better team. Lewis should know better after the first one. OU got outcoached and outplayed. Am I mad? Yes. Is it the end of the world? no. There are many more games to play, and a lot can happen yet, just ask Mizzou, USC, Florida...

Barry,
You need to go back and review the "good call" made by the officials concerning disallowed interception by Lamont Robinson. How about the fact that after Robinson caught the ball he was brought down by an OBVIOUS face mask. Did you fail to see this occurence? The apparent face mask pulled his head around sideways and he still maintained possesion of the football until he hit the ground. I guess that wouldn't have anything to do with the fumble when his head is being twisted away from his body and momentum!!

The TD on the KO return was aided by two clips that were not called! Refs screwed OU, again,

The ground cannot cause a fumble. The interception in the end zone was
perfectly valid and THE game changer.

Barry you need to start a movement to get the "rules" or quasi rules changed. 1. hitting the quarterback out of bounds. This should be the same as any other ball carrier. Rem: the hit on the ou player flagrantly out of bounds? And 2. The ground can't cause a fumble. I noted earlier by some comment that the refs were using the guide lines on a pass that if the ball came out at impact, it was an incomplete pass. That has some validity but should not be absolute. Then you have a pass in the end zone. Control at any point should end the play. ground or no ground. This is consistent with crossing the stripe for a touchdown and is similar to the ground/fumble rule.

Rational: Colt McCoy is a better actor than our punter and our guy had control before he hit the ground.

Loadholt held Orakpo all day long and it took a toll on him. He'd have been better off if the officials would have called it early in the game. Maybe he would have quit holding and been able to stop Orakpo in the 4th. It caught up with him late in the game when those tired arms, from holding all day, couldn't hold that "Beast" Orakpo any longer. Outcome was Bradford got rattled and wasn't comfortable in the pocket those last 2 possessions. So yeah, officials did have outcome on game and Stoopes should write to NCAA asking why Loadholt wasn't getting called for holding. I guess if OU had won though, this would probably have been the first post mentioning the officiating!

Barry, you have obviously never played the game and have no idea what your talking about. There was clearly no foul on those two out of bound plays on McCoy. At times like this, your truly a consulate idiot.

Several folks are correct, when they say that the ground can't cause a fumble. The "interception" wasn't ruled a fumble, however, but was ruled an incomplete pass. If you'll read the rules, you may notice that for a pass to be caught, the person catching it must come to the ground with the ball remaining in his control.

Barry's comments some time ago was the reason that I stopped my subscription. I got tired of his anti-OU bias! Now I only make it to NewOK.com occasionally...didn't see that he had written this article or I wouldn't have even read it...

Berry you're still an "idiot" the ground cannot cause a fumble. Yes some questionable calls for both teams but that was a bad one. I bet you have never played any type of organized sports and that's why you're a commentator

Hats of to Texas for playing a great game. From the coaches to their special teams, offense and defense, they outperformed the sooners on Saturday. There is still a lot of football to be played, if the sooners work hard, a Big 12 championship is still possible.
Now, for the media... It's your job to report the facts, not what YOU think are the facts. Tramel, when the calls are horrible, quit making excuses for them. The game had really bad calls on both sides. It didn't make Texas win, they earned the victory. BUT, the officials still made too many mistakes. Point it out, take them to task, DO YOUR JOB!!!!!!
College Football is a great way to spend a Saturday, but just as OU needs to get better to be a champion, so does the officiating. Call it for what it was...A really bad day for calls.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, Lamont Robinson, in my opinion, had control of the ball before he hit the ground. Therefore, it was an interception, the ground can't cause a fumble.

As far as the interception, wasn't there a similar call during the Fiesta Bowl? As much as I wish it had been an interception, I have to agree with Trammell, he didn't have possession.

Call Me a sore loser if you want, but once again the Big 12 Officiating crew changed the outcome of a game with blown calls and favoritism! The 2 calls against Travis Lewis were totally horrible!!!! Young Mr. Robinson intercepted the pass in the endzone and should have been reviewed!!! Other plays were reviewed when it was clear that the proper call had been made on the field. Those 3 calls GAVE TEXA$$ 17 points!!!!!!! The 96 yard KO return, there were at least 2 blocks in the back by TEXA$$ player that were ignored, there is 7 more TEXA$$ points that the officiating crew were responsible for!! The score board should have another column added to it and it should look like this:

Oklahoma 35
Texa$$ 21
Big 12 Crew / UT 24

In all football rule books state: The ground can not cause a fumble!!! If these points aren't enough, how about the lack of holding calls against the Texa$$ offensive line, IU saw on more than 1/3 of the plays linemen holding on to Sooner linemen for dear life, and if they weren't holding they were blocking below the knees. They were a very DIRTY bunch!!! Big 12 officiating has sunk almost as low as the PAC 10!!!!!! The officiating was deffinatley in favor of the teams from TEXA$$ yesterday afternoon, OU and Nebraska were on the wrong end of the calls uyesterday!! The only Big 12 crew that didn't seam to decide the outcome of their games was the KU - CU game. OSU was lucky enough to overcome the few bad calls at Missouri, but the game was officiated in the Tigers favor.

Why wasn't the call on the interception in the endzone reviewed? Didn't the OU coaches request it? They had ample time. It was so clear that he had control and that the ball popped out when he hit the ground. Also, the statement above by Berry Tramel doesn't make sense. He says that the disallowed interception appeared to be a good call, yet he states that the ball popped out when Robinson hit the ground. THE GROUND CANNOT CAUSE A FUMBLE!!!
Marc, Anadarko

The bad calls here favored UT. But, there's a way to avoid them: Get the QB hard when he has the ball. It's that simple. I don't think they cost OU the game. The better team won today. That's all. The bad calls just cloud the win and the loss.

Please don't blame the outcome on the refs. The game was too good for you to blame the outcome on the zebra's. Wow, what a game. One for the ages....

It appeared that the OU player attempted to hold his jersey so he would not fall on the stadium screen. Very questionable, very sleazy call.

Questionable calls? Some yes. Cost OU the game? No, and I'm an OU fan. IF we don't get some defense in a hurry, bad calls will be the least of out worries. BTW, the "interception" in the end zone was not an interception. I've seen this situation many times and the ruling is always the same. The receiver MUST have control AFTER he hits the ground.

After watching all of the televised big 12 games I have come to the conclusion that the conference borrowed all of the Pac 10 officials to call the games

By the way, the FINAL Score was TEXAS 45 ou 35. You all cannot dispute that!!!!

Kevin, it only bothers me when they are suppossed to be an unbiased, objective journalist. But then again, neither one of those is a prerequisite to work at the Daily Jokelahoman.

Hey Muffin, on OU's 1st TD, his knee was down at the 1.......but where was the ball? The ball is not spotted where the knee is but rather where the ball is when the knee or body hits the ground. I guess the official saw the ball break the plane of the goal line before the knee went down. It happened right in front of him on a parallel plane.....TV angle didn't give us the same angle he had. So give that to the official to make. Does it bother you if someone has glasses that are different that your burnt-orange glasses?

Tom, are you a football official? Didn't think so. I am. And it was an interception. Possesion, control, knee down....lost it when he rolled and ground jarred it loose. Now if he had come down and his first touch of the ground was his body and the ground jarred it loose, then it should've been called incomplete. But his first touch was his knee then the rest of his body second. For crying out loud.......REVIEW IT IN THE BOOTH!! They made a mistake in not doing that....could've affected the outcome of the game. The ruling of the groud can't cause a fumble is only valid when the player has possesion and control (like running back). On a reception, first you have to determine if it was controlled.
And yes....those late hits on McCoy were flops.....defensive player was pulling up both times and trying to "grab" or "hold" the QB.....not hit him. Officials gotta use better judgement there.....see the whole play in its context. And one last thing, that's why we are responding to the officials call.....because that is what the article is about. You should know about homers......

Berry, no mention of OU's first TD when the ball carrier's knee was down? Did your crimson colored glasses get in your way?

Robinson had control of the ball and took at least one step and landed with the ball and when he rolled over the ball came out. That spells interception. However, the way the defense played later in the half it probably did not matter. OU lost because there is no running game. They lost because of the kicking game. They lost because of poor play calling. And finally they lost becasue Texas played better in all aspects of the game.

Hell yes the officating was a determining factor. I'm not whining but the offcials did affect the outcome several time for both sides. This makes twice a moron offcial doesn't now what an interception in the end zone loos like. Remember the screw-up when Keith Stansbarry intercepted the pass in the end zone. Tom, cry your own freaking river.

Cry me a freaking river!!! Why dont you talk about all the bad calls texas got? You think all the bad calls in the game were against OU? Fact is, Texas is just a better team and proved it. Guess its true how the sports writers for this site are OU Homers. You can tell by their articles they write.

You need to learn a lesson here, never write an article after your team loses because you look like an idiot blaming the refs and being a homer.

What exactly is the rule for a catch? Because I'm fairly certain he caught the ball, had two steps in the end zone (only need one), then was on the ground when the ball was forced out by hitting the ground (the ground didn't cause the fumble). Also, the challenge rules come into play. Can you overturn a ruling involving change of possession? Just a frustrating piece of a frustrating second half.

You stated it all there that the ball popped loose when he hit the ground. Am I mistaken but I was always under the impression that the ground cannot cause a fumble. Is that not the same for college as the NFL?