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David Stanley Ford

Vance union, base official will meet

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Published: June 18, 2009


Civilian employees on strike walk the picket line Tuesday at the west gate of Vance Air Force Base in Enid. AP Photo

A union representing nearly 800 civilian workers on strike at Vance Air Force Base in Enid agreed Wednesday to return to the bargaining table with a contractor at the base.

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Local officials with the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers said they plan to meet Saturday with contractor CSC Applied Technologies to settle a dispute over a new three-year contract.

The two sides have not met face-to-face since June 5, when 96 percent of union members voted to reject the last offer.

Workers have been walking a 24-hour picket line outside the base since June 8, when the three-year contract expired.

Union spokesman Jerry McCune said among the areas of dispute are a new attendance policy that penalizes workers for using sick leave, seniority issues, pension payments and health insurance.

Virginia-based CSC has a contract with the Air Force to provide aircraft maintenance and base operations.

Gary Richardson, CSC’s program manager at Vance, said union officials also have rejected a tougher drug testing policy for workers and that the new attendance policy would require advance notice from workers seeking to take paid days off.

CSC officials have said they want to resume discussions with the union and have offered to extend the existing contract so that employees could continue working while discussions were ongoing.

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I keep hearing about this Drug thing that CSC keeps mentioning but they fail to say that the Union has never minded it as it stands now because That Drug Policy is inclusive of CSC Management and The Union Personal that are on an equal basis as far as no notice testing for both CSC Management and All Union Members. The new terminology was not equal it was Union Only and not mentioning holding the CSC Management to the same standards, which CSC Management should be held to with nothing to hide. CSC Management should be held to the same level of testing, as the Union Members. They Work on the Same AFB as the Union employs and should be held to the same standard. As far as I know there has been very few discoveries of drug use amongst Union Employs, it is usually explainable through medications people are on. I agree anyone discovered should have a chance to explain and if an explanation is not satisfactory immediate termination.
- Jun 18, 2009 at 3:15 pm
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What I hope they realize is how bad this will hurt them in the future and by not looking at the big picture, will have a big impact on the base and city of Enid. The military isn't going to just sit back and allow civilian unions to basically shut down a base over petty crap like drug testing and giving advanced notice on PTO. Got news for you... thats everywhere! Most places drug test and all most all places require weeks or notice prior to PTO.
Jess, Warr Acres - Jun 18, 2009 at 11:13 am
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So it is ok for the civilians on the air base to be druggies but the airmen and airwomen must regularly submit to drug test? Fire all these crack heads and start over, without the union. Better yet, close the base.
ED, MULESHOE - Jun 18, 2009 at 8:41 am
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I've seen both sides of the union world and right now I'm outside it by choice. The big selling point of being in the union was brotherhood and solidarity. But individual uniqueness was tossed out the window. I have a personally crafted contract that defines my goals, definitions, expectations, desires, needs, pay package, benefits, and education targets. I could not have that in a union as it just wouldn't work. But there was a time in my life when a cookie cutter job was fine. It also made things easier with the boss in that he didn't have to sit down individually with each employee once a year and work out the job contract or agreement. But I don't worry about that now as we are all on shaky ground in Oklahoma due to the prevailing labor laws. In ways, its good, but in ways its bad as a friend was let go two months ago and she was just told to leave the building with no reason or anything else. She won her first round with EEOC and unemployment as the employer offered no reason to them either. She's getting her weekly unemployment and is working toward an eventual case in court. I guess its good as an employer that you can tell someone to just hit the road. Then it makes me look at the people with the signs and say that at times a union puts and end to that stupid activity of the employer.
Sparky (Mark), Oklahoma City - Jun 18, 2009 at 8:40 am
Gotta problem with tougher drug testing for jobs on a military base? Then hit the road, dude. Military bases are kinda full of stuff that kills people when it isn't handled correctly. Got it, man? I always did hate druggies when I was in the military. They got some of my men killed when it wasn't necessary. First rule around military equipment and military operations: everybody needs to be sober and alert. Everybody; even the clerks and cooks.
Z, Lake - Jun 18, 2009 at 7:30 am
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