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Why some kids may be more at risk
Why some kids in Oklahoma Co. may be more at risk

By Randy Ellis    Comments Comment on this article21
Published: April 28, 2008

© Copyright 2008, The Oklahoman

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Abused and neglected children are taken from parents in Oklahoma County at a rate more than double that of Tulsa County.

The monthly average number of foster care children in Oklahoma County was 2,261 last fiscal year, compared with 843 for Tulsa County, state statistics reveal.

That raises some interesting questions: Are Oklahoma County children taken away too often? Are Tulsa County children not removed often enough?

Are there more than twice as many bad parents in Oklahoma County as Tulsa County?

Opinions vary.

"There are a lot of differences between Oklahoma County and Tulsa County,” said Howard Hendrick, director of the state Department of Human Services.

Poverty is a strain, and Tulsa County has a better community network in place to assist the poor than Oklahoma County, he said.

Richard Kirby, head Oklahoma County juvenile court judge, said he hasn't noticed police officers and Oklahoma County DHS employees intervening in families without justification.

"Frankly, I can't say I've heard a case that DHS didn't need to have some involvement in,” Kirby said.

Bar association group finds problems with agency
Taking a far more critical view of Oklahoma County's high removal rate is the American Bar Association Center on Children and the Law, a group of outside attorneys brought in by DHS to take a look at the system.

"A disproportionately high number of children are entering and remaining in care in Oklahoma County,” the group said in a draft report.

Law enforcement officers execute most emergency removals in Oklahoma County and the training and removal standards used by various police departments in the county vary greatly, the report said.

Many Oklahoma County DHS child welfare workers and supervisors are inexperienced and poorly trained, the bar association group found.

"Caseworker training and supervision is inadequate, contributing to low job satisfaction, high caseworker turnover, and distrust between DHS and the court,” the report said.

"Currently, there is no shared understanding of child safety or risk of harm. The result is that DHS is filing more petitions on more children without a clear policy of why, or how, it will meet the needs of every family,” according to the report.

Workers who are inexperienced, poorly trained and poorly supervised are more likely to remove a child from a home unnecessarily, under conditions where good social work could fix the problem, said a former DHS worker with 16 years of supervisory experience.

The former supervisor, who asked that her name not be used, said it's "easier to get a kid removed than worry about how to improve a situation.”

It's also safe for the employee because there is no risk of criticism for leaving a child in a home where they could later be injured or killed, she said. The decision on whether to send the child back is left up to someone else.

"They don't comprehend the damage to the child,” she said.

Hendrick said Oklahoma County may be able to divert some children from going into foster care through a family group conferencing service that gets extended family members together prior to children entering foster care to see if there is anyone in the family who might be able to safely take care of the kids.

"With family group conferencing maybe we can just divert 10 or 15 percent of the kids coming into the system,” he said. "It wouldn't save a lot, but in maybe 10 or 15 percent of the cases they would come up with their own plan” that would be acceptable to state officials, as well as the family.

Turnpike rivalry re-emerges
Hendrick suggested the difference between Oklahoma County and Tulsa County might better be explained by differences in preventive services within the counties.

Oklahoma County has a slightly higher poverty rate, which is part of the problem, he said.

But there also are other differences.

"They have a pretty good community network,” Hendrick said of Tulsa County. "They have a big commitment to community schools up there. ... They have a lot of mental health services. ... You can go into some of their schools and OU physicians will have clinics inside the schools. ... I mean, you'll have a doctor in the local school in Tulsa. You'll have licensed professional counselors in a school.”

Getting social services into low income neighborhoods can relieve the strains of poverty and have a positive impact on families, he said.

Hendrick said Oklahoma County is starting to make some strides in that area, but Tulsa County is more advanced.

"Here goes the turnpike rivalry again,” he said.

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With the bad PR about this State Agency why do they continue to keep Hendricks as head of the DHS? They need to get rid of him and Lambert.
Candace, Lakeland - May 5, 2008 at 6:11 am
Yeah, but we're still gettin' an NBA team, right?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 4:02 pm
I have been employed by DHS twice. I care about people. I care enough about people; I destroyed my career standing up to corrupt administrators. I can do more from the inside than from the outside. The current trend is to promote people willing to sell their souls. They are quick to leave out the human part of human services. The real issue is more about upper level administrators maintaining a power base than helping people in need (agency mission). Unless you experience it, I cannot convey the extent of their lust for power & control. The current general trend in public administration is to bring individuals from the business world to make the public sector agencies like DHS function more like the “for profit” sector. The problem here is that a business has the objective to maximize profits and minimize losses. In the business world, executives who routinely lose eighty-five million dollars per year are fired or their business fails. People do not receive the benefits & services without motivated qualified people in the front lines. People who run this organization know that time is on their side. The people of Oklahoma will not focus their collective attention long enough to fix a problem as large as the problems facing DHS. Nothing changes unless you, the people of Oklahoma decide politics as usual is not going to be good enough any more.
esprit, Durant - Apr 28, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Oops! Sorry for the misquote. I believe that was Nietzsche. Jill? Julie? could you please put a favorable spin on this and tell us why no change is needed and things are just peachy here in the Heartland?
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Jeez, Dennis, you'd think that getting 'our' NBA team isn't gunna make it all better! If Marx said that religion is the opiate of the masses, in Okaysee, just pass me a little of that NBA and make the world go away. :)
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Governor Henry and Director Hendrick... why haven't you supported the nationally recognized "Parental Alienation Awareness Day" that was held this past Friday, April 25th?
Dennis, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Concerned...I have seen (in the press and in my research online) that card played many times by Mr. Hendrick and his legal staff, esp in lawsuits brought against DHS. Something about immunity from prosecution because you can't sue the State. Then they come up with a trivial "settlement" with a complaintant outside of Court if the complaintant agrees to never mention the matter again for as long as they live. So much for a free and open society.
Dennis, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Dennis, the Oklahoman can typically get government documents through an open records request, including a draft report paid for by tax dollars. If they did indeed get this report that way, what is shocking to me is that DHS didn't deny the request based on some bogus privacy disclosure excuse. DHS is notorious for violating the Oklahoma Open Records Act (ORA). This is another area of DHS that should be open to scrutiny from AG Drew Edmondson. The AG's office spends some time hosting informative seminars for state, county & local government officials on approriate interpretation of the ORA, but I don't think DHS has ever been forced to bring their ORA policies into compliance with state law. The lawyers at DHS say pratically everything in their agency is excluded under HIPAA (medical privacy) laws, even though a records request ruling by the AG's office would release the records. You see, DHS doesn't have to get an opinion from the AG's office on ORA requests. They have their own legal staff who decides what to release & what not to release.
Concerned, Central Oklahoma - Apr 28, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Tulsa may have a better coordinated and funded social service network, but who cares? Here in Okaysee, we have more publicly funded entertainment venues that funnel what tax money that is not being refunded into the pockets of politicians and their buddies(and the family of a newspaper publisher)! I hear The Referral Center is slated for closure in July due to being chronically underfunded since Keating. Guess those homeless alcoholics and drug addicts seeking treatment can go camp down by the river and watch Admiral Norick sail by instead.
Kevin, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 11:40 am
BTW...During the past two years, I have written a dozen or so letters and e-mails to "The Oklahoman" about DHS, including possibly one of the biggest scams ever run against DHS and Oklahoma City Housing Authority and I never received a single response. So, I am curious, how it is that NewsOK came to be in possession of a "secret report." Hmmmmm?
Dennis, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 11:30 am
esprit...I'll answer that by saying this, go to the "Children Need Both Parents" website, http://cnbpinc.ning.com/profile/Dennis, and look at the video titled, "Typical Human Services Response." It features Mr. Hendricks own personal spokesperson (for DHS) on this side of the turnpike.
Dennis, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 11:20 am
Why did The Daily Oklahoman comment on what is essentially a non-issue at this point? There are so many serious concerns to Oklahoma, our nation and the world, than their childish “finger pointing” at Henry and Boren over an endorsement. But if they offered opinion about the very serious global food crisis or Zimbabwe’s teetering democracy, well that would educate and inform the readers, The Daily Oklahoman and the GOP’s worst nightmare. On the upside, we now know its coon hunting season!
Greg, Panama City, Panama - Apr 28, 2008 at 11:01 am
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Why did The Daily Oklahoman comment on what is essentially a non-issue at this point? There are so many serious concerns to Oklahoma, our nation and the world, than their childish “finger pointing” at Henry and Boren over an endorsement. But if they offered opinion about the very serious global food crisis or Zimbabwe’s teetering democracy, well that would educate and inform the readers, The Daily Oklahoman and the GOP’s worst nightmare. On the upside, we now know its coon hunting season!
Greg, Panama City, Panama - Apr 28, 2008 at 11:00 am
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Mr. Hendrick, please take a look at just a couple of families your caseworkers in OKlahoma County are in the process of destroying...http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NCP-OK-OklahomaCounty/. Hitler is in fact dead, and these Gestapo tactics have got to stop!!!!!
Dennis, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 10:55 am
Dennis, without giving anything away, how many years has you worked for DHS? Things are going to get bad, very, very bad at DHS. No one at the Sequoyah building acknowledges reality. If they do, they are negative & must be ridden until they quit.
esprit, Durant - Apr 28, 2008 at 10:51 am
Mr Hendrick is concerned about "the turnpike rivalry?" My God man, where in the hell are your priorities?
Dennis, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 10:13 am
I just can't take the politcal pandering any more. The reason Oklahoma County is so much worse than any other county is not due to anything other than inept and incompotent management so prfoundly idiotic, people who look the other way to protect these incompetent fools should be in jail. I did Child Welfare in Oklahoma County 10 or so years ago & took a voluntary demotion because these people selectively pick & choose which policies to apply to selective situations. It is absolutely criminal. The administrative staff should give an account for the damage they are responsible for. They were telling me to do things that were against policy, I refused to do them & it runined my career. Those people are still there & here I am wondering, where is the justice??
esprit, Durant - Apr 28, 2008 at 9:56 am
amen, Marilyn!! IT'S CALLED BENCHMARKING, IN CASE YOU ARE READING THIS, HOWARD. IT SHOULD BE PART OF YOUR PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
R, Tulsa - Apr 28, 2008 at 9:47 am
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"They have a pretty good community network,” Hendrick said of Tulsa County. "They have a big commitment to community schools up there. ... They have a lot of mental health services. ... You can go into some of their schools and OU physicians will have clinics inside the schools. ... I mean, you'll have a doctor in the local school in Tulsa. You'll have licensed professional counselors in a school.”<----------who cares about a bunch of kids ?! WE have an NBA team and THEY don't !! Neener neener !!
mister, bogata - Apr 28, 2008 at 7:26 am
See Above Quote: "Workers who are inexperienced, poorly trained and poorly supervised are more likely to remove a child from a home unnecessarily, under conditions where good social work could fix the problem, said a former DHS worker with 16 years of supervisory experience." THIS IS TRUE!
J, Oklahoma City - Apr 28, 2008 at 6:51 am
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Oklahoma County has all of the resources, particularly medical, that Tulsa County has. Everything in place in Tulsa to address poverty could be accomplished in Oklahoma City. As Director of OKDHS, the very agency whose mission is to alleviate poverty issues, Mr. Hendrick should have taken the lead a long time ago to "advance" his own community. With all the necessary resources at his fingertips, leadership and commitment is all that is lacking. Perhaps the legislature needs to look at the individual(s) who have such abilities in Tulsa and recruit him/her as the new director of DHS.
Marilyn, Seminole - Apr 28, 2008 at 6:46 am

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