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David Stanley Ford

You’re welcome: Vote shows detainees have U.S. spot to land

The Oklahoman Editorial    Comments Comment on this article47
Published: October 19, 2009

We don’t know where on U.S. soil the Obama administration plans to send Guantanamo detainees slated for criminal trials, but there are 224 candidate congressional districts after a vote last week in the House of Representatives.

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That’s how many House members voted against a bid to block the transfer of detainees to the United States. All five members of Oklahoma’s delegation supported a ban on bringing Guantanamo inmates here.

Obviously, there are plenty of representatives who think bringing detainees to the U.S. is acceptable — even though the perfect facility for holding and prosecuting them already exists at the U.S. base in Cuba.

The early leaders for receiving Gitmo detainees are the districts of Reps. Dan Maffei, D-N.Y., and Baron Hill, D-Ind. Both were quoted by The Associated Press as saying that bringing the likes of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to their backyards is no biggie.

"It’s a non-issue, inside the Beltway stuff,” Maffei told AP. "People care about jobs, the economy, health care.” Hill said no one has asked him about Guantanamo, and he doesn’t fear his vote as a campaign issue.

Splendid! The rest of America thanks Maffei and Hill for stepping up to the plate. Though public opinion has shown Americans oppose bringing detainees to their states by about 4-1, it’s possible folks think differently in the places Maffei and Hill call home.

These men should hold some town hall meetings first, to make sure they’re in tune with their constituents. Could be the best show since this summer’s town halls on health care.

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With their only stance of personal ridicule in this debate, my military service or lack thereof not withstanding, even though not pertinent to the converstation at hand, of which has no relevance to the truth of the matter, let it be known because of their lack of substance, Stink and the others have relinquished the fact that I'm correct with the summary that enemy combatants don't qualify for constitutional rights.
Brock, Beaver - Oct 20, 2009 at 10:33 pm
lanny, I'M not the one that blamed Clinton. As I said the economists did.
I only asked if they all Republicans?
I don't know what party, broker Malcolm Berko is. He sure blamed them and still does if you read his column in the Sunday paper each week.
I don't give Bush credit for anything except getting Obama elected.
Of course McCain didn't help himself when he chose a comedian for his running mate.
Floyd, Oklahoma - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Bert-You are goofy. W, a "class act," now that's a knee slapper. I think it's great to have a President with high-level, critical thinking skills and a very well-adjusted mentality.
Bush never inherited 2 wars or an economy on the brink of a Great Depression and you know it!
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Floyd, See, you prove my point to Bert, you are still blaming Clinton !! Of course the near depression involved players in both parties, they are more alike than different after all the party spin is set aside.
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:12 pm
lanny, Are the economists that blame the housing bubble burst and bad lending practices on Clinton and Greenspan all Republicans?
Floyd, Oklahoma - Oct 19, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Lanny Then I guess in your way of thinking that nothing Obama does is his fault for over the first seven years. And by the way Lanny. you never heard Bush complain about Clinton or blame Clinton. Bush was not a good president in my opinion but compared to Obama he certainly was and is a class act
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 8:18 pm
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Let's see Bert, you on the far right blamed Clinton for at least 7 yrs. of little "w's" reign.
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 7:46 pm
William, you are a piece of work, is that the best "fact" (trash left at the inauguration party) that you can come up with? You got your butt kicked in the election fair and square! Wah, wah, wah.
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 7:45 pm
For Lanny and Milkman , Simple questions. When does anything that is going on in the gov become the responsibilty of Obama? When dioes the war become his? when does the deficit become his? How long can he continue to blame Bush?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 7:41 pm
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william, you are so full of crap. There is a lot of trash in every major city after every event. Why didn't you just say all of those filthy blacks didn't pick up their trash. You are so stupid.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I remember the inauguration crowd, but the thing I remember about them is the fact that the Mall in Washington was left in the worst condition in history. The filth and trash was so indicative of the crowd that was there, that they will be remembered for what they were and are for a long time to come. Someone tell me why this country has to accept or endure the trash heaps left by such slime.
william, pampa - Oct 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm
David, I agree that Oklahoma's congressional delegation are too worried about what will happen to come to Norman for a town hall. It's one of the few places in the state where precincts were actually won by President Obama. I would have loved to attend a town hall that wasn't already stacked with scared senior citizens & fans of Mark Shannon. I would have wanted to puke if I'd been in the audience when Sen. Coburn told that citizen that she should get her neighbors to help her care for her brain-injured husband!
Concerned, Central Oklahoma - Oct 19, 2009 at 5:46 pm
"The people spoke." That's classic Bert thinking, do you really believe that misinformed, scared bunch of loud-mouthed, partisan weenies represent the people of the USA ?
Remember the inauguration crowd Bert!
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Stinker Just remember. It is now on Obama's watch
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 5:25 pm
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david i went to Muscogee for both the town hall meetings by Colburn and Boren. Could you not make it to Moore?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 5:20 pm
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david why is Norman so special? Town hall m eeting were held across the state with one conclusion. The people spoke and said no to gov run health care.
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 5:19 pm
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Bert, why will no pol do a health care town hall in Norman? Cole too much a coward. Holds his in safety in redneck mooore where no one will ask any hard ?s. fallin held hers not in her hometown of Seminole, but north OKC around the corner from her church so her flock could attend and cheer on.
David, Norman - Oct 19, 2009 at 4:21 pm
If only he could, Bert. If we just pulled out, it would collapse into something much worse than it was when Saddam was in power. But we can't stay there forever, either.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Think he might be bioplar, Milkman? Talk about forgone conclusion....
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Bert, the last few town hall meetings they have shown on TV were Republicans getting booed. They don't get much attention because they're not Beck sanctioned. By the way, why has he been crying on the air lately? Do you think he might be bipolar?
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Stinker if it is a quagmire should Obama just not remove them now?
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:11 pm
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Sure Bert, be proud of the loudmouth, disruptive thugs sent in by Fix news,Beckerhead, and RX Rush to scream their little bitty redneck brains out at public meetings. That's how you want this country to operate and you seem proud, pay attention to your own voice once in awhile.
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:10 pm
They aren't out yet, Bert. Bush sent them on a nation-building mission that he promised never to send them on. You know--they were to greet us as liberators, remember, according to Rumsfeld. Alas, it turns out to be another quagmire.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:05 pm
The last 2 lines in the ed says hold town hall meetings. I think it will be a long time before another democrats holds a town hall meeting
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:05 pm
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Stinker What makjes me very happy after reading your last post is that i was not aware that under Obama we have pulled all our troops out of harms way.
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:02 pm
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First, Brock--who has never served--who the hell are *you* to tell me who's disrespecting military. I was over there, puke. Second, they are the ones getting shot at *over there* thanks to Bush, a Republican, you puke. Third, don't worry. Al Qaeda won't come to Beaver to buy one of your Fords, you whiner.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I thought we were providing health care for aliens from Venezuela. I'm calling Hugo right now and apologizing. Don't worry Brock, I won't mention your name. That way Hugo won't send some studs from Citgo to whip your butt.
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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Brock the key word there is think The libs very seldom think
BERT, HENRYETTA - Oct 19, 2009 at 2:46 pm
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Stink, your disrespect to US military veterans goes without mention. Your disregard to their safety on the battlefield and the compromised version of the constitution set forth by you and the other nitwitted libs below is not commendable. Constitutional rights cannot be afforded to someone that is not a citizen, especially enemy combatants that have sworn to do us in. Next thing you know you'll be wanting the US to pay for the health care of illegal aliens from Venezuala. For crying out loud, do you guys ever think about the silliness you espouse?
Brock, Beaver - Oct 19, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I can't believe we've become such pussies that we can't lock up Al Qaeda in our prisons. What a cowardly argument.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 1:47 pm
It's become a stupid partisan issue for birdbrains like mary fallin to grandstand and pass bills about. You know if W had rang her up asking to house detainees at Ft Sill she'd a been falln' all over herself telling fellow Okies it's our patriotic duty in the war on terera. The US manages to keep canibals safely under lock and key, think we'll be ok. US needs to close the jihadi rallying cry of gitmo.
David, Norman - Oct 19, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Beaverbrock has rolled his eyes until there as crossed up as his simplistic parroting of Faux news and RX rush's rants!
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 11:32 am
Let me get this straight. The USA should incarcerate individuals who have not been charged with any crime here in the USA?
scott - Oct 19, 2009 at 11:28 am
And about those rights: We don't grant them. They are born to us. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

"Unalienable" means without border, not dependent on a country. We don't grant them the rights, they have them already.

stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 11:15 am
Did I read Brock complaining about "politicizing"? No, it's not like you don't polticize *every* news story on here, and turn it into something against Democrats or Obama. Brock on Balloon Boy: "If it weren't for Obama, that balloon wouldn't have floated so high!" Sooners losing to Texas: "Obama and the Democrats will have to pay for this one!"

Your harmonica plays one note.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2009 at 11:12 am
Ah yes, Progressive. A new title ginned up by the liberals to hide behind, in an attempt to fool the people into believing that their socialist tendencies really aren't what they are. :rolleyes: Once again, conservatives don't have to do such things. Shoe fits, fellas. Wear it proudly!

L, Americans have constitutional rights. Are you saying we should grant those rights to every person in the world?
Brock, Beaver - Oct 19, 2009 at 10:53 am
We have inmates in prison that are just as violent as the "detainees", we don't send them to Cuba. Some want to have the cake and eat it too.
L, Snhawnee - Oct 19, 2009 at 10:01 am
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No, addressing you as a Fascist would be the equivalent of addressing a Progressive as as Socialist, Chicken Little Bvr.
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:51 am
How about reactionary/conservative as the equivilant?
John, Norman - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:48 am
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Addressing a socialist/liberal is the equivalent of addressing me as a conservative. Only difference is, apparently you're ashamed of your political affiliation. Anything else you need help with? Btw, Obama isn't doing anything about Gitmo. Yet another campaign promise gone awry.
Brock, Beaver - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:39 am
"our socialist/liberal buddies" -Brock, Beaver - Oct 19, 2009 at 7:57 am. "the left is relegated to name calling"
Brock, Beaver - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:23 am

Typical right wing call out. "Hello kettle- you're black"- The Pot, Beaver
John, Norman - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:33 am
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Hmm, the 1st post here with name-calling is from a Brock Beaver with "socialist/liberal" quoted.
I still say the USA can do a better job of detaining the accused stateside than anyone, anywhere.
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:29 am
Speak the truth and the left is relegated to name calling. Typical end of discussion.
Brock, Beaver - Oct 19, 2009 at 9:23 am
The Chicken Little's speak of conspiracies and Commies yet again.
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 8:11 am
Politicize our troops actions and make them vulnerable, bring the enemy combatants here where they can recruit new members amongst societys worst, where they can lawyer up on our dime to be let off with a technicality because they didn't get arrested with the Miranda Rights. Pffft, I know it sounds like a broken record but our socialist/liberal buddies still aren't thinking.
Brock, Beaver - Oct 19, 2009 at 7:57 am
We can do a better job detaining them than anyone, anywhere !
lanny, Tulsa - Oct 19, 2009 at 7:42 am

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