For some Cherokees, group offers way home
"You know that old saying, you can never go home again. If I went back home again, I'd be like a stranger and I'd be treated like a white man.” Lee Burgess, a Cherokee expatriate
For some Cherokees, group offers way home
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By Devona Walker
Published: July 5, 2008
Lee Burgess, a Cherokee, was nicknamed "Whitey” as a child because of his fair skin.
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Still a Cherokee, but living outside the tribal nation
For Burgess, who is 80 and lives in Oklahoma City, the words "Cherokee Nation” mean both tribe and family. He has lived his life as an expatriate, outside its jurisdiction, but he votes absentee in every election. It is still his home.
"You know that old saying, you can never go home again. If I went back home again, I'd be like a stranger and I'd be treated like a white man,” Burgess said.
About six in 10 Cherokee tribal members live outside the Cherokee Nation jurisdictional area. The area encompasses all or part of 14 counties in northeast Oklahoma, inside which the Cherokee Nation is a sovereign tribal government.
At a recent meeting in Oklahoma City, tribal leaders offered an olive branch to expatriates living outside the area — the beginning of a Cherokee group in Oklahoma City and the promise of an Indian hospital in the city and college scholarships for Cherokee children who live outside the nation.
In return, the tribe hopes to bolster its voting bloc, becoming a more persuasive voice in state and perhaps national politics.
"Reconnecting expatriate communities is a fundamental part of building community. We bind ourselves together as a community, and not just in the Cherokee Nation proper,” Cherokee Principal Chief Chad Smith said. "What we encourage is that expatriate community members reconnect with their tribe, and their family. For us to survive as a people, we have to have a sound community foundation. It helps the nation, and it helps the people.”
Smith said Cherokees have survived numerous U.S. policies that have not respected American Indian sovereignty. At times, the U.S. has been supportive, Smith said, and at other times the federal government has sought to destroy the Cherokee Nation. And there have been other times, such as now, he said, when the government has left the tribe alone to thrive and survive.
Tribal unity, he emphasized, is important because times are bound to change.
A few months ago, Smith was invited to speak as part of the eighth annual Cherokee National Legislative Day at the state Capitol. But he was later denied the opportunity to speak during a committee hearing on the English-only bill. Mike Miller, Cherokee Nation spokesman, said the incident was symptomatic of the tenuous relationship between the nation and the country in which it lives. It illustrates the importance of uniting all Cherokees, he said.
J.R. Cook., another member of the tribe, works with youths. He, too, lives in Oklahoma City. Just as Burgess made a decision to live as a white man, Cook made a decision to re-acquaint himself with his tribal heritage.
"We're all pretty much in that same boat. Identity and figuring out ways of dealing with that,” Cook said. "It wasn't until right after college that I started to learn about my culture.”
Cook and Burgess were among more than 200 Cherokee expatriates called to an organizational meeting three weeks ago by the tribal government. Cook pointed to people in the room, some fair with blond hair, others dark-skinned.
"The majority of all Cherokees are going to be of mixed blood; we will be of all shades. So identity issues are always there,” Cook said.
For people like Burgess, reconnecting with the tribe could perhaps mean something more. He lives alone in a three-bedroom, two-bath ranch-style home on a cul de sac off N Council Road. His neighbor checks on him from time to time. He doesn't drive much anymore. And he doubts he will make it back to the Cherokee Nation's base area.
Sitting in his living room, Lee Burgess showed off a black-and-white photograph of a cousin who worked in the movies in the 1940s, a snake dancer named Buck Burgess.
"I'm awful proud of that Indian blood. I'm awful proud of their history,” he said. "They had it rough. The government drove them all across these United States. (Many) of them died along the way. But they kept in there.”
For him, this group might be the closest he ever comes to going home again.
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You signed your post "Cherokee Citizen of the Cherokee Nation" I can-not accept that as truth, though many Cherokee think the same thing, if there are ANY Cherokee Nation Citizens left alive they have to have been born no later than Dec. 1906, that was when Congress of the U.S. Close the Cherokee Nation Rolls forever. There were a few exceptions allowed to entoll by the fact of the 1902 Act of Congress and the Court up to 1914, any of those alive would be in their 90's.
We are only descendants of the Cherokee Citizens listed on the Dawes Rolls, by fact of the 1975, and the 1999 revised Constitution of CNOT. If you will look at your blue card, if you have the old on Pre-Chad Smith, it says Right on the face of the Card under you signature Tribal Member of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma...Smith has illegally tried to change that when he begain issuing new cards in 2001 I believe it was, even though the 99 Constitution had not been ratified by the People, and wasn't until 2007, so if you have a new card, and it has Cherokee Nation without "of Oklahoma" then it is a lie, and if you will notice under you signature it says the same thing you are a tribal member of CNOT..................
John "The Eder" Cornsilk
Well Roy, I too am offended by the story, NOT by the fact of the People finding their Cherokee Roots and wanting to belong, I am offended by the spending of Cherokee Assets by Smith and cohorts to put on this gala, it is the same thing Smith and cohorts did just a couple of months back out in California, spent 80,000 dollars on 3 picnic's for the supposed Cherokee out there which was identical to this one nothing more than registration ploy of voters to help maintain there terms in office, these folks are so eager to belong they readily accept the BS as a desire of their Cherokeeness in the Nation.
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Here is a simple test to learn what this is about, simply ask Smith “which Constitution is the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma operating under” and if he says the 99/2003, Then ask the simple question is this your third term as Chief, how and why. You will learn right quick your Cherokeeness will no longer be desired in CNOT to be a sucker.
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As for Glenda and her disgust with CNOT for not helping with the education of her Children, the first question: is her Cherokee connection documented and is she a member of CNOT, If yes, next question: does she live within the jurisdictional boundaries of CNOT, if yes, then the next question is income, CNOT uses the federal poverty guidelines for eligibility. The Simple fact is folks if you are a Cherokee NOT living within the boundaries, you are eligible for absolutely nothing, legally, but then when has Smith cared about legality, he will promise you the possibility of a piece of the moon for your registering and a promise to vote for the incumbents… If the answer was no to documented/membership in CNOT, She is just one of the million wannabees, and all else is moot.
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And then Folks for what all this wasted money to BS the expatriated Cherokee that’s close to 100,000 bucks that could have went to is service to the needy Cherokee, after all that is the main reason CNOT exists!
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And yes, as A of Watuga Texas said to see what poverty in CNOT-land is all about simply click this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCbeq9UIxq0&locale=en_US&persist_locale=1 and then once you view this video, and for the answer as to why? Click this link: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vrGx3-X_QOk&feature=related
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If these links happen to not work to see the videos all you have to is GOOGLE these words: “Sorrow and Poverty In the Cherokee Nation”
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John “The Elder” Cornsilk
Cherokee CNOT Member
Purveyor of Simple Truth!
So, when I hear the sad stories of how there is nothing here for our children, that life is hard here, that someone didn't get a sholarship for themselves or their children - my first thought is what did they do for their country? They now want something from my Nation, but what have they given, what sacrafices have they made? Like the poverty sticken life my grandmother lived; although, she 'never' would have tought of it that way. They think they should be welcomed with open arms, given governmental benefits because of what, they ask?
I hope the OKC organization becomes a supportive community organization with a commonality of being Cherokee citizens. I "think" they have "NO rights" as citizens. I "believe" that once you or your ancestor chose to leave, and never returned, you are no longer a part of the citizenry of the C.N. proper and have NO fundamental (different than what the governmental ideas are) to effect by vote or oppinion what happens within the C.N. proper. It is here at home where the problems are, the effects of government are the strongest or weakest, and will have little to no effect on those outside the CN proper. Therefore, I think those who are expatriots are still expatriots and should be. (I prefer the constitutional opionion of the 1839 constitution where leaving the Nation mean't loss of citizenship). Just my opinion as a citizen of the Cherokee Nation, Tahlequah, OK).
Old Chad was never raised in the Cherokee Nation and does not speak Cherokee.
Brad Carson sure does not Look Cherokee either like many who run the CNO Inc founded in 1975 by Ross Swimmer.
I was born in Park Hill and raised with the Proud Cherokee.
You Tube has the real story of Chad two wife Smith just search for cherokeerightsvideo .