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Oklahoma Pikepass system set to use stickers
TURNPIKESOfficials seek input from public on system

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Published: September 18, 2009

Oklahoma Pikepass users by next summer may be using stickers instead of the hard plastic transponders to get through toll plazas without stopping.

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Work crews are changing toll readers to a new system that uses stickers instead of the transponders to charge accounts, said Jack Damrill, spokesman for the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority. The change is expected to cost about $6.5 million and be complete by August 2010.

The company that makes the transponders will stop making them. The company, one of two large companies that make the equipment, will stop repairing readers the state uses in 2013, Damrill said. Moving to the stickers will save the authority money.

It costs the Turnpike Authority $28 for a new transponder and $26.40 for a refurbished one. That cost is only passed on to customers when they do not return their Pikepass when they end service. Stickers cost the Turnpike Authority about $10 each, Damrill said.

The savings will allow the authority to recoup the cost of upgrading the system in a little more than two years, Damrill said.

At the authority’s board meeting Wednesday, members approved a motion to allow officials to buy 98,000 refurbished transponders with a price tag up to $2.6 million to use during the transition.

The authority plans to buy about 45,000 transponders in January and buy more as needed.

"We’ll see where that gets us,” Damrill said. "We’re not going to buy more unless we sell a bunch. We just need enough to get through next summer.”

There are 377 Pikepass readers across the state.

The new technology will reduce the number of misread tolls and will allow the state’s Turnpike Authority to form agreements with other states that use sticker systems such as Kansas and Texas, Damrill said.

He said the authority also plans to survey customers on the best way to meet their needs because many use a single Pikepass for several vehicles.

"We expect to get a lot of feedback. It’s something that we have to transition to. We’re being forced to move in this direction because the technology is changing.”

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It would be nice to have an agreement with the NTTA in North TX and even better if it also included the toll authority in Houston also. We have toll readers for OK and North TX in our truck and would rather have one sticker.
Cheryl, Edmond - Sep 18, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Wait till you get to Dallas and find out they sprouted toll roads all over the place.
Doug, Midwest City - Sep 18, 2009 at 7:17 pm
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The Oklahoma Turnpike system is just another Great White Elephant that has been milking the taxpayers of Oklahoma for 30 years, and will continue to do so, all in the name of "improvements".
David, Edmond - Sep 18, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Hey, James in Norman--the guy who spearheaded the Interstate system was Dwight D. Eisenhower. Socialism, you say? You're a dumbass.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 3:33 pm
AND you are right, their roads are so much better than OK. You can fly on their two lanes, very smooth. I-135 north of Wichita to Salina has areas rough as OK interstate..desireous to avoid but it has been a few years since I was on it. I like the idea of a multi-state pass though.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 18, 2009 at 2:09 pm
You guys were correct the first time, the KTA goes all the way to KC via Topeka..been there, done that. Here is their system -- http://ksturnpike.com/kta_map.shtml
Matt1, OKC - Sep 18, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Mark, that all depends on the vehicle.
Bob, Bugtussle - Sep 18, 2009 at 1:04 pm
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Correct myself, the Kansas turnpike runs on I-35 from near the border to somewhere near Lawrence. Here's a travel tip if you are going to Kansas City, get off the turnpike at Emporia and take the non-toll road. It's quicker and cheaper.
Mark, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 12:57 pm
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I make the trip to Kansas City a couple of times a year. The turnpike only runs to Emporia, about 100 miles from Kansas City. The roads in Kansas are of much better quality than Oklahoma.

Interesting note about burning gas to pay cash. Just last weekend I took a trip that involved travel between OKC and Tulsa. Took the turnpike up there (with pikepass), 66 coming back. My car used less gas on the return trip, even though it is a few miles farther, took an extra 45 minutes, and involves stop and go in the small towns. Nobody likes to hear this, but driving 10mph slower resulted in significant increase in miles per gallon.
Mark, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 12:52 pm
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Do away with trolls entirely!! Those little guys are always getting into mischief. We don't need no Stinkin' Trolls!!!
willis, oklahoma city - Sep 18, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Silas, you say you traveled in Kansas and didn't see any turnpikes? When you reach the border, I-35 turns into a turnpike and stays that way hundreds of miles until it runs through Kansas City.
Sparky (Mark), Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 11:53 am
Thanks Mark, now I see those savings in the 50% and greater range. I didn't look at all the turnpike rates, only the Baily, Turner, some of the spurs & and Indian Nation. My apology to IDO for my comment about no tolls being 50% discounts!

It looks like PPass is still a really great bargain for the residents & travelers using the Kilpatrick in the NW OKC/Edmond/Yukon areas.
Concerned, Central Oklahoma - Sep 18, 2009 at 11:51 am
Mark, the 5% savings on longer trips is also offset by not burning gas having to pay cash. I love my Pikepass even though I drive the Pike about three times per year.
Bob, Bugtussle - Sep 18, 2009 at 11:25 am
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I stand corrected, pikepass is cheaper. Concerned already posted a link. The savings amount depends on distance. Short trips on Kilpatrick from to/from Broadway will save 75% in some cases. If you use pikepass to travel the full length of a longer turnpike, savings is less than 5%. Entering/exiting in the middle of the turnpike is where the real savings is. It's hard to figure out, but it appears that the cash system is based on a minimum flat rate, and cash customers pay for miles they don't travel.
Mark, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 11:05 am
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IDO, from the OTA website, I don't see ANY PPass tolls that are 50% of the cash toll. At best the discounts for PPass use looks to be about a 15% savings. Often the discount is only 3-7%. As you mentioned, those short spurs with $0.25 tolls are the same toll rate for PPass or cash.

http://www.pikepass.com/maps/tolls.htm

I've had a PPass for about 15 years & yes the 50% discount was an initial selling point. Over time as more & more people started using PPasses the rates were raised.

Personally, I don't mind paying the same price. I consider the acts of not digging out some change and not slowing to pay a booth or attendant to be sufficient benefits of the PPass system. If they start charging more for PPass tolls, then I'll go back to the inconvenience of paying cash.
Concerned, Central Oklahoma - Sep 18, 2009 at 10:19 am
Mark, OKC - PIKEPASS users save 50% vs cash tolls and there are a very few instances the minimum toll is 25 cents for cash or PIKEPASS. I drive the Kilpatrick a 2-3 times a day and get an additional 5% high volume discount. You can read the rates for yourself on the Turnpike Authority web site.
IDO, Edmond - Sep 18, 2009 at 9:50 am
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Great idea, and I am sure there will be a solution for people who own multiple vehicles. Silas, do you drive backroads when you go to Kansas, because the toll has been there since I first drove through almost 20 years ago. And, taxing trucks even more isn't the answer.
Bob, Bugtussle - Sep 18, 2009 at 9:40 am
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There isn't one turnpike in Oklahoma where you don't have a choice. YOu can take the turnpike to Tulsa or take Route 66. 66 is free. I've taken it many times just for the hell of it. It takes more time, but if you hate turnpikes, it still works just fine.

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Milkman, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 9:12 am
Really? Get rid of turnpikes? Paying tolls means that most of the cost of upkeep of the road is paid for by the people actually using that road. What are you, some kind of socialist?
James, Norman - Sep 18, 2009 at 9:05 am
I use the pass in multiple vehicles, and this will be a pain. What do you do when renting a car?

Also, remember the promise of reduced fees if you used a pikepass instead of cash? Another broken promise once a good base of pikepass users were established.
Mark, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 8:55 am
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I travel the Kansas Turnpike often. It begins at the border on I-35.
Matt1, OKC - Sep 18, 2009 at 8:25 am
I may just be unaware here but I have travelled some extent in Kansas and quite alot in Texas and other than some short stretches within cities like Dallas, I don't recall any turnpikes in those States? Why do we have to have them? If we taxed truck traffic appropriately, which is extensive and accounts for most of the wear and tear on our poor highways, and reopen and staff our weigh stations to properly enforce weight limits and such, we could probably eliminate tolls entirely. Of course that means eliminating a State agency and those jobs which is good too but meets lots of opposition from unions and such.
Silas, Tardville - Sep 18, 2009 at 8:21 am
Do away with the tolls on the roads!!
Willay, Stillwater - Sep 18, 2009 at 7:25 am
Yes, this makes a lot of sense. I like the idea of working agreements with Kansas and Texas to be able to use our PikePass credit in any of the three states. Plus, you have to make these decisions NOW before technology leaves you without hardware and no support. Good work staying ahead.
David, Oklahoma City - Sep 18, 2009 at 5:35 am
This is good and bad at the same time. Since I am one of those multi-vehicle users. I think overall it will be a good transition.
Christopher, Blanchard - Sep 18, 2009 at 2:13 am

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