Social Security plans lack specifics
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SAY RETIREMENT AGE SHOULD STAY THE SAME, BUT AGREEMENT STOPS THERE

By The Associated Press
Published: October 19, 2008

WASHINGTONSen. Barack Obama wants to raise taxes on high-income workers to ease Social Security’s looming cash crunch. Sen. John McCain favors voluntary private accounts for younger wage earners.

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Beyond those generalities — and a shared opposition to raising the retirement age — the rivals are long on commitment and short on specifics when it comes to the retirement program. Three years after the collapse of President Bush’s bid to overhaul the program, Social Security has played a modest role in the campaign.

What Obama says
Obama aired a television ad saying McCain campaigned in favor of Bush’s failed 2005 proposal, which it characterized as "cutting benefits in half, risking Social Security on the stock market.”

In fact, the allegation about cutting benefits was from a study showing that under one scenario, the benefits of higher-income retirees could be cut in half beginning in 2080.

Nor has McCain proposed investing payroll tax receipts in the stock market. But he has previously proposed giving workers the option of investing Social Security taxes.

What McCain says
"I do not and will not privatize Social Security,” McCain says. "It’s not true when I’m accused of that.”

Polling over the years has shown the word "privatization” evokes hostility among voters.

McCain’s denials are hard to square with his previous comments. "Without privatization, I don’t see how you can possibly over time make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits,” he said in November 2004.

McCain says the challenges facing Social Security aren’t as pressing as Medicare’s future woes.


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Pardon my misunderstanding of Webster’s definition of socialism or a socialistic government (or any other references to the English language, that we use to teach our children), and indeed prescribe to as our primary source of understanding the basis of our communication with one another In the United States any knowledge that I have attained is amiss. I realize that it may be time consuming and in direct conflict with our media, if a comparison is made, by his own website for goals and agenda, one should be able to see the direct connection in regards to Obama and socialism. In these times of concern and fear of health care, financial crisis, and of our own distaste for paying what is considered excessive taxation, remember that none of these issues pertain to the basics of our Constitutional rights. The pursuit of happiness, the right to (no guarantees), just the ability to purse this fundamental right is our primary basis for a considered right. Taxation is rarely seen as fair by the bulk of payees, (Boston Tea Party) and that we can make an effort to correct. Yes, it does require effort on our part, but we choose not to pursue this avenue. Electing any leader who promises to end these problems and guarantee what the Constitution does not, should be considered circumspect at the least. Each of us must vote according to our beliefs and should do so, but whomever you vote for, remember this is the U.S. of America. Not England, Europe, Sweden, etc., or any other entity. We fought for our form of government; let us attempt to keep it should we follow in other nation’s forms of government. Ok, all who want to argue this take your shots. I ain’t scared (lol), of anything, except of socialism and spiders.
Sallie, Del City - Oct 23, 2008 at 2:28 pm
stinkerpants, I rarely if ever agree with you on anything, but your 12:14 a. post is the most honest, lets get back to reality, statement I have seen posted in at least 2 months.
Sallie, Del City - Oct 20, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Percy F., that was good.
We, ThePeople - Oct 19, 2008 at 8:34 am
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The latest word from the S.A.P.'s wrinkled old white dude, whose wife makes $4.7 million and all the beer she can exchange for drugs, and the baby he needs to abort, Sarah, are really "plumbing" the depths of credulity to ask us to believe that the Great Ossification Party cares about the sick, the elderly, the poor, the homeless and children. Their records speak volumes in the S.A.P. They demand that the sick heal themselves, the elderly get out of the way, the poor to wait for Jesus, the homeless to keep moving, and children to just be seen and not heard. They have one redeeming feature: they oppose abortion. That will be their ultimate downfall. Like the legislator who brought his dog's new puppies to the office one day, and was asked what party they belonged to. He replied, "they were born Republicans, but then they opened their eyes and became Democrats." There is hope! Just not for the S.A.P. Thats the Say Anything Party.
Percy F., Ardmore - Oct 19, 2008 at 6:29 am
Robin Hood, I mean Obama will save SS. He will rob from the middle class and give it to the lazy. Have no fear, Obama will save us all.
We, ThePeople - Oct 19, 2008 at 12:56 am
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"High-income workers?" Slanted story. "Workers" are NEVER high-income. Does anyone know a "worker", as in "worker bee", who makes $250,000 or better a year? I bet you don't call him a "worker". I bet you call him boss.
stinkerpants, Oklahoma City - Oct 19, 2008 at 12:14 am