Texas Tech fans buy a flyover banner for Bedlam
By Jake Trotter - Staff Writer
Published: November 28, 2008
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Texas Tech fans? Great editing, Oklahoman.
B, Oklahoma City - Nov 29, 2008 at 4:23 pm
How about a tie breaker formula using the point differential in the head to head match ups. OU would win that one easily- OU +34,Texas +4, and Tech would be -18. What's with these childish Texas fans? I mean really?? A 45-35 banner? That is the gayest thing I've ever heard of. Sounds like something the Tulsa high school football fans on here would do.
jw, Oklahoma City - Nov 29, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I find a lot of these comments pretty funny.
First off TT, there's a big difference between OU & UT fans that a lot of you don't have. Class. As in, act like you've been there before.
Secondly. Listen to Mack Brown. Did he say TX deserved to go? yes. but he also said he would prefer a play off, because TT & OU also deserve to go and he doesn't want to take that away from them.
It's also funny that what a lot of you are calling whining by one coach, you then turn around and call it standing up for your team by your coach.
Anyways, out of the 3 teams, TT, you barely won your home night game.
You can say UT only pulled in at the end, but they still kept it close.
OU barely lost their neutral game, and they can also say they lead most of it. Still lost, though, the reason was more due to losing their star defense player imo.
But TT.. You didn't just lose. or lose closely. You got hammered.
Anyways, when the fans can start acting with class, and like they've been there before, then the respect will start to come and the expectation of being there as well.
Christopher - Nov 29, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Lawrence, how is that childish? Stating facts???? Fact is, football coaches, sports figures, actors.... DO get paid more than Joe Blow doing a more important job because there are lots of Joe Blows and only a handful of those others, comparatively speaking. I dont see how I was being childish. Dont just get on here and call me names without giving any reasoning. Explain to me how I was childish?
matt, Moore - Nov 29, 2008 at 9:32 am
so Tech losing too badly hurts OU????? well i guess UT's win over OU was a fluke since Tech beat texas right? Tech shouldnt be in the conversation but they beat texas so they CANNOT be excluded!!!! all this is moot if OU beats OSU by atleast 2 touchdowns in Stillwater. OU will have the best road win of all these teams. who has TEXAS beaten on the road, remember they played us on a nuetral site!!!! UT struggled at Colorado, got beat at Tech, and beat a so-so Kansas team by 4td's who has been beaten by Nebraska, South Florida, and destroyed by Tech! Destroyed by Tech!!!! Texas is not better than OU at this point in the season and if they get a chance to play again, the whole sporting world would see that!!!! (remember florida-florida st. in the late 1990's!)
rob, wagoner - Nov 29, 2008 at 9:00 am
I fell sorry for Tech--always chasing Texas--too bad--makes them look small.
Jan, Ft Worth - Nov 29, 2008 at 8:38 am
The best line is the guy who said he hoped the two planes fly into each other I couldn't help from laughing my but off even though it is warpped. Go Sooner's.
larry, hallsville - Nov 29, 2008 at 7:29 am
Don't get me wrong, I ike Stoops a lot, but trying to justify a 3-6 million dollar a year contract for coaching football is ridiculous even in Oklahoma. It is obvious that the NCAA is going to have to put a salary cap on football coaches in the near future in order to prevent the out of control increases the schools are giving to persuade coaches to come to their schools.
When I purchase a ticket to watch OU or any other sporting event - it is never to watch the coaches - coach.
Tom, It would make more sense for each sport to support itself - which could be done. If no one goes to watch Volleyball - they ride a bus and eat at McDonalds. The football program should not have to support all the other sports. The problem is no one really knows what the money goes for and where it comes from. At public universities, the information should be available - Tuition/activity fees should not be increasing every year to support sports.
Universities can fire professors - just ask one. Would they fire a professor for bad mouthing Stoops - probably not, but I was not just referring to professors. A university employs a lot of people besides professors - and bad mouthing Stoops at OU is not wise.
Supply and demand is a factor in a person's salary, but hardly the main indicator. Why are GM employees paid so well? Do they possess skills that the rest of us don't have or have some intense educational program they go through? Are letter carriers hard to find these days? Teachers are paid poorly because they state can get away with it (when a teacher leaves they are replaced by someone that will work for less). Now that the majority of top performers in college have chosen other careers due to the salary, the state is having a hard time filling positions with well qualified teachers. Although, some do it for other reasons besides salary. If NCAA set a limit of 250,000 per year for head coaches and OU paid the maximum of any college 250,000/year would Stoops still coach at OU? If he loved coaching OU he would as long as his salary was competitive for HIS profession.
Lawerence, Oklahoma City - Nov 29, 2008 at 1:11 am
I hope the planes crash into each other.
josh, yukon - Nov 29, 2008 at 12:28 am
Again, there are laws and I would be surprised to see the banners actually near the game day location. It is more likely to just get verbage on air since ESPN has already been talking about it. Again they could get more visibility otherwise, but ok spend your money. We will see how you feel later John in Monument, Texas Tech is stil waiting for you to stop someone... you think you are going to stop OU??? It isnt going to happen
Jeanie, Wichita Falls - Nov 29, 2008 at 12:16 am
Yay! For Tech fans, their POINTS are solid. Texas is a joke.
Christopher, Oklahoma City - Nov 29, 2008 at 12:07 am
I for one am glad to see Tech doing this. Espn acts like Texas losing to Tech is a mulligan, but they sure are lobbying hard for Texas having won the head-to-head with OU.I use to have respect for Chris Fowler I always thought he was a true professional. I guess when it comes to Mack's country bred cornbread feed charm professionalism goes out the window.Props to Tech though, remind the voters Texas got their azz beat also.I will probably take some heat for this, but if something happened that OU couldn't go to the B12 CG I for one would much rather see Tech go than Texas. Texas is acting like it is a given they should be in the CG. UT just sucks and I am totally incapable of wanting to see anything good happen for them.
Danny, Del City - Nov 28, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I'm glad to see that everyone is going to be focused on those banners flying over Boone Pickens Stadium while the 9-2 Cowboys who are 6-0 at home are whipping up on the Sooners that seem to feel they have already won the game. Should be easy "pickens" for the pokes.
John, Monument - Nov 28, 2008 at 11:09 pm
So great that in tough economic times and people going hungry on THanksgiving that douche bags are willing to donate not to a worthy cause but to something like this. What a joke
Eric, Norman - Nov 28, 2008 at 11:09 pm
As to Stoops's salary, the athletic budget is seperate from the Universities and it is self sustaining. If we paid less and got a lesser coach, the football program wouldn't make the money it takes to support all the other sports, of which only men's basket ball is self supporting.
So, I like to see OU pay Stoops a lot of money and hope he stays for a very long time.
tom, Lawton - Nov 28, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Jason our "smart as a brick" poster.
Roger, Keller - Nov 28, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Congrats to the Sooners for beating the Big East Champion, Cincinnati. Who did Texas play in their non-conference schedule?
steve, nicholasville - Nov 28, 2008 at 10:28 pm
It's simple folks. Listen to all the commentators.
OU hurt itself by BEATING TECH TOO BADLY.
See, everyone has been saying, "Yeah, it's a 3-way tie. But Tech got killed, so they clearly don't belong. So, just throw them out, then go with the head-to-head with OU and Texas."
So, what you're saying is, if OU had only beaten Tech by, say 10, then Tech would still be legit, and all three teams would receive the consideration they are due.
So, OU was too good.
The bottom line is, none of these teams should be denied claiming mucho bonus points for their big win. And, none of these teams should be able to make us forget about their loss.
So, you've got to make a judgment call.... the same kind of judgment call that has somehow made Florida #2-4 despite their home loss to Ole Miss (which ranks a decidedly obvious 6th among the six losses by one-loss teams).
Grant, Edmond - Nov 28, 2008 at 9:46 pm
The banner will not fly over during the game, it's during game day ppl. And OU did not get crushed in the title game against LSU. 14 to 21 is not crushed. BOOMER SOONER!!
Brian, Okemah - Nov 28, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Yeah, the reason why some are anti-OU for the BCS is because of the same reason a lot are anti-Ohio. Two losses back to back. In Ohio's case, 2 big losses. In OU's case, 2 losses to teams they shouldn't have.
As for the 3 games.
UT beat OU. But, it was close. It could have gone either way.
TT beat UT was close, could have gone either way.
OU beat TT. Wasn't close no matter which way you wanna spin it. That's why most people are ignoring TT.
As for BCS. To say it straight, no BCS school is going to pick TT over OU or TX.
Not going to happen, the TT fans don't bring as much money as the other 2 fans, so the only chance you TT fans got for a BCS game is for OSU to win, and then for you to win the Big 12.
Christopher - Nov 28, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Wow lots of Texicans throwing away their money on banners no one will be able to see (it's a night game).
Gary, Oklahoma City - Nov 28, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I agree that ESPN is anti Big 12 and then if they have to choose a team it's Texas.
Jess, Warr Acres - Nov 28, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Sorry Matt, that's just plain childish.
Lawrence, Guthrie - Nov 28, 2008 at 7:30 pm
The "seemingly anti OU bias" on ESPN probably has something to do with the fact that the Sooners were crushed in their last two National Championship appearances, and were beaten badly in their last two BCS games. I guess the pundits are tired of watching them get blown out in games they're *supposed* to win.
Jason, Seattle - Nov 28, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Fans who are offended over ESPN's (seemingly anti-OU) bias, need to flood ESPN with emails right now!
Jeff, Tulsa - Nov 28, 2008 at 6:50 pm
The Texas Tech fly over should drop buckets of Cow manure on the aggie fans, that way everyone will feel at home.
Stewart, Norman - Nov 28, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I'm sick of ESPN know-it-alls failing to consider Tech beat Texas and Tech has one loss so if Texas deserves to be ahead of OU because Texas beat OU then why doesn't Tech deserve to be ahead of Texas? What is this love affair ESPN has with Texas? I mean no disrespect for OSU(I respect the team, not the fans), but I hope OU nails them by 40 or more points. BOOMER SOONER!!!!
Ken, Boise - Nov 28, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Dudes, this is fine, spend your money. How close do you really think Homeland Security is going to allow a plane to a stadium filled with fans? There are laws now folks, thats why you never see the plane banners from strip clubs flying around on game day any more. I mean come on you would be better off to hang a sign from one RV or surburban across the parking at Boone Pickens Stadium. Or even better a banner with total number of empty seats at the total ignornace of Holder & Pickens. The way their sluch fund, or hedge fund has crashed & burned you would think $1.2 mill would be welcome.
Jeanie, Wichita Falls - Nov 28, 2008 at 6:07 pm
FYI...The president is George Bush not Obama.
julie, EL RENO - Nov 28, 2008 at 5:51 pm
If you look at the actual games, OU lead TU much of the day and routed TT. TU rallied on OU and lead TT briefly after a nice rally. TT lead most of the game and then rallied on TU and was routed by OU. OU spent more time ahead than either, scored 100 points and gave up 66, TU scored 78 points, gave up 74, lead the least, and TT scored 60 points, gave up 98, and lead the second longest. The human polls have it right. OU, TU then TT.
bob, anadarko - Nov 28, 2008 at 5:29 pm
If Texas is allowed to fly over, Tech should fly over, right behind them..... President Obama should order the Texas/UT plane shot down.... Texans are not allowed North of the Red River after Thanksgiving. There is a hunting season on them. Dear and bare season opens on Thanksgiving day, Dear Face and Bare Texas Azz.
We, ThePeople - Nov 28, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Hopefully we fly one too. I'd gladly donate a G that flew "Texas Sucks" if I had the chance to...
Lee, Euless - Nov 28, 2008 at 5:08 pm
You know, the truth is that OU never plays Texas on a "neutral" field. Even if the fans are divided equally, OU's football team, coaches, and our fans have to go to Dallas, TEXAS every year to play and see the game. I guarantee you that Texas and their fans would not want to come to a split stadium in Oklahoma every year! That is not a "neutral" field in the opposing team's state every year! OKC or Tulsa should build a stadium, preferably domed, that could house all kinds of sporting events like the OU - Texas game every other year, or move the game to a home and home series. Neutral field my foot! Boomer Sooner! The new Cherokee Casino Dome!
Jeff, Tulsa - Nov 28, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Lawrence, you miss the point completely. The point is that people who get paid more generally do so because they have talents that fewer people in the general population possess.
She was comparing a single person vs. a group of people (Stoops and OU professors).
My wife is an elementary teacher and she is great at it and it is an important job, but there are many that can do the job and people dont pay tons of money to see them teach.
Also, the university can not fire a tennured professor for having a problem with Stoops.
And as far as the money is concerned; I cant give evidence that it goes to the professors directly, but I can tell you that the football program makes more in ticket sales, bowl revenues, merchandise royalties, and donations than they are paying the coaching staff.
That money goes back to the University who does with it what they will, including paying professors salaries.
matt, Moore - Nov 28, 2008 at 4:56 pm
OU doesn't seem like they have to campaign - Texas and Tech are doing it for them. Matt you are comparing apples and oranges. You can not compare a single person versus an entire group of people. Should golfers be paid more than teachers - no. Do they - yes. Why would people working for OU complain about Stoops? That would be like - please fire me! Please, I would like for anyone to show an ounce of evidence that any professors' salary comes from football attendance.
Lawerence, Oklahoma City - Nov 28, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Thank you Texas Tech fans! I hope the Tech plane shoots down the UT plane, hah! OU, from now on just whup the fool out of the cows, so we won't have to go through this nonsense anymore. Boomer Sooner! Go Big Red!
Jeff, Tulsa - Nov 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm
haha lori do you really think OSU can stop that ou offense? the same ou offense that scored 65 on techs defense, while osu could not even score a third of that, and the same ou defense that gave up 56 to tech?
matt - Nov 28, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Texas Tech and Texas need to get a life and fight it out amongst themselves. OSU is going to beat OU tomorrow, so flying the planes there won't be an issue.
Lori, Oklahoma City - Nov 28, 2008 at 4:05 pm
HAHAHA, how convenient for Tech fans to remind UT fans of the game they want to forget. Sounds good Tech!
Ed Lova, Oklahoma City - Nov 28, 2008 at 3:58 pm
colleen. People get paid a lot of money for being able to do something that is special and different, not necessarily based on importance. Take Tiger Woods for instance. He makes more than any school teachers out there, by a bunch. That doesnt mean that what he does is more important, just that it is more rare. There is only one Tiger Woods, but there are lots of teachers. Its simple supply and demand. Good coaches are hard to come by, while good professors are much more common. Also, good coaches bring revenue to schools that not only help pay the coaches salary and for all of the facilities, but also for those 30 OU professors. My mother-in-law works at OU and I can tell you that most dont have a problem with his salary. One does wonder why they keep raising tuition though... but thats another issue.
matt, Moore - Nov 28, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Its OSU 46 OU 38 count on it. Now OU and The Blunder can weep together. But Stoops will still make almost 4 million this year, this is more than the combined salaries of 30 OU professors. Dont ya just love it, I mean our priorities. Viper
colleen, Oklahoma City - Nov 28, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Who give a crap...until there is a playoff the "national championship" is strictly mythical anyway. They should just call the BCS title game the "Unicorn Bowl".
Matt, The Village - Nov 28, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Dumb, Tech got absolutely destroyed on national TV, I felt embarrassed for them. If you ant to stay in BCS hunt don't lose by 70 points
smax - Nov 28, 2008 at 1:52 pm
yea i loved the espn nutswinging after the game last night.
Bryan, Lawton - Nov 28, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Go Tech Fans! I am tired of Mack Brown whining all over national TV about the "head-to head" win - But he doesn't want to bring up that they lost to Tech.
Buffy, Oklahoma City - Nov 28, 2008 at 1:24 pm
can ou and osu fans get togeather and hire someone to cut the banners off before take off? i thought the campaign season was over. if anything campaign for a playoff. not who beat who on a stupid banner.
jason, Stillwater - Nov 28, 2008 at 1:16 pm
All I want to know is where's the 65-21 banner?
Travis, Norman - Nov 28, 2008 at 1:14 pm
It's now how you play the game, it's whether you win or lose? GO OU!!!
whyno, no - Nov 28, 2008 at 1:03 pm
I'm sure glad to live in a country where people make enough money to support these worthy causes.
Jason, Seattle - Nov 28, 2008 at 1:01 pm
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